someone please tell me I'm wrong about the pally questFollow

ok from day one I wanted to be a pally and since any race can be any class I started as a troll. I can't be a pally till I'm lvl 20 and my whole guild is evil I was going to wait till the last minute to do the Betrayel quest. Because you have to be good to be a pally right? Well I just turned lvl 19 and wanted to start the quest. But the dude will not give me the quest and the site says you have to be 11-17 to do it. please tell me there is another way because this is bs if they made the game this way. If I have to start over I'm starting over on World of Warcraft.

but if I Betray and turn good then I should be able to be one. people dude it going from good to bad I think

you can but the betrayel quest is lvl 11-17 and I'm 19. and I didn't read that till now. is there another way to be good?

lol they're really the same thing except ones "evil" and ones "good" .. just be a shadowknight.. plus then you and your guild can do evil stuff together :-D

Make another character, no need to waste teh one you started with. Do the whole Troll Pally thing with your current character's "brother/sister". A twin would be even better. Did ya save your appearance settings? You could work up a neat bio, roleplaying info for that. WoW is a cartoon.

I hear your frustration with this, and there is no answer that will help you. However, I believe there are valid reasons for it being the way it is.

First of all, it is not supposed to be easey. At all. Secondly, you stand to gain several levels worth of experience doing the quest. It seems to me that the quest is set up so that you don't spend all of your time attempting to get accepted into the other city so you can do your sub-class quest where nothing counts because your exp is maxed for your level.

I know this doesn't help with your situation, but I hope it at least gives a shred of explanation for why things are the way they are. In the end it all boils down to you should have done your homework.

Grist Gudhart
Troll Crusader/Scholar

Addendum: Imagine how the people feel who DO start their quest on time but have not done their homework... just move blindly ahead without thinking and suddenly *POOF* all of their hard earned equipment in the bank is GONE because they no longer have access to their starting city bank account.
Oasis

Edited, Sat Nov 27 16:06:50 2004 by Grist

I'm just saying it would have been nice if they would have made it clear that this quest would have to be done before lvl 17. Not look it up at 19 and say "OH CRAP" hehe

f.y.i. from an inspiring soon to be pali i am about 60% into 18 got my quest got swepted off to some village for the pali quest and it is a pain!!!!!!!
All gnolls, 3 groups of 4 yellow 2 up arrows 2 group blues and 5 single red group mobs......

I wonder how i am suppiosed to kill all of em. By the way i now have 3 shards in the forgotten village i can't get to unless i activate the quest! I am so never going to hit 19 until next week /cry

I read somewhere that if you rt clik your exp bar and turn off experience you *might* be able to get a quest under your lvl - you might not the quest's exp (even if you turn exp back on after you get it, which of course you should do). If you really want to betray, try it.

(if you turn off exp supposedly you can get drops off gray conning mobs - but chests, too? I did try this and got pelts n stuff - but no chests - but I got bored and didn't stick at it, so my experiment was hardly conclusive - some say you can get chest loot off grays w/ exp off - maybe I should go turn off and kill grays for a long time and see if I can get a chest).

Anyway, I'd read up on what the betrayal quest involves and make sure you really want to do it.

If this doesn't work, you will have to reroll (or see if there is a higher lvl betrayal quest - I don't think there is one). Sorry, I know how it feels. I've been burned on (lesser) stuff like this, too. Best of luck to you.

You don't have to clean out your bank account before finishing your betrayal but you do need to clear out your inn room and relinquish ownership or you will not be able to get a new in room in whatever city you betray to.

Pages 82-83 in your instruction manual clearly state the level requirements and where to start the quest. I don't believe SOE could have made it any clearer unless they threw a big huge gigantic window on screen when you turned 15 saying "Warning: To all those that wish to betray the City and have not bothered to research this information or even read your instruction manual, you have to start your betrayal quest now. Go speak to (person in your city) to initiate that quest." Then have 100 windows asking "Are you sure you wish to close this message? Are you positive, you won't get another chance? Come on, you know you want to betray. Ignoring this message will cause you to miss out on betrayal. Are you really really sure?" and so on.

I bet players would still complain that the window was too easy to close without having to read it. That they were in the middle of drinking some soda and thought it was just a new quest. I already think that SOE made this game too easy.

I'm sorry, you will find no sympathy here. You obviously knew that you could betray and use any race in any job. I feel it is your responsibility, and not SOE's, to do the leg work and find out what you can about betraying and when you need to do it.

Rating me down does nothing to change the fact that this is the way things are. It is plainly written in your manual. I have no problem helping others, where I do have the problem is where others won't help themselves then complain about it. It is no one's fault but your own that you missed out on the quest. You can either live and learn by your mistakes or simply give up and quit. I sincerely hope that your server has a new Shadow Knight instead of 1 less player.

As someone who plans to do the Betrayal quest with my Rat Mage, I must agree with the person above who offered little sympathy. Although I do sympathize a bit, I agree that you should have done your homework if you knew from the beginning you wanted to betray your city. Also, look at it this way for why there is a level cap.

Assuming you start it at 17 (the last possible level), you will gain enough xp doing the quest to be 19 by the time you are done (based on others reports). Thus, doing the betrayal quest will lead you right into the SubClass quest of your choice, and completing that one will easily put you at 20 or higher.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. I haven't tried WoW but hear from friends that it isn't worth it. Personally I would either reroll the character if you have no available character slots, or create a new one to be your pally and try out the Troll SK.