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#1 Nov 25 2004 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello all. I had purchased a Dell computer which was shipped with the wrong Video Card. I was running EQ fine the my Radeon x300 but today, they finally shipped my Nvidia GeForce6800 GTO. This card came with an additional fan, which i have no idea where to mount. The card fit into the PCI express slot just fine, but when i called Dell to find out about the mounting of the fan, they responded with..
"well we just dont put those in".
I figured it was ok and started my computer up anyway. I immidiately received an alert stating,
"Additional cage fan needed for card over 75 watts"
Dell was obviously wrong and NVIDIA is unfortunately closed until January.
If anyone has this particular card or has any idea on where to mount this fan, your input would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.


Edited, Thu Nov 25 22:16:47 2004 by xKnightfallx
#2 Nov 25 2004 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
Whats the size of the fan and the connector (ie. 4-pin or board connection) ? .. and personally Dell does give crappy comps that are overpriced.
#3 Nov 25 2004 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Well the fan is pretty big and its within this metal casing. It almost looks as if it were supposed to be attached to the hard drive, which i doubt, just tryin to give you a better visual.

And as for the crappy dell computers, i agree there packages are pretty bad but i customised mine. And its running great. Horrible customer servich though, i mean its just HORRIBLE.
#4 Nov 25 2004 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
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and while im on the topic.. i do have the option of returning this card. And if so i would be getting the ATI Radeon X800. Which do you guys think is better, they are very similar cards.
#5 Nov 26 2004 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
Stick with GeForce, its a damn nice card (I got one too).

On top of that, EQ2 is tweaked for that card also... the problem isn't your card, its your computer. Dell has the guts all lego'ed together with the clip ons and stuff. Its not what you would call a "normal" PC. Because its insides are slightly customized, I would look for a guide on the net specifically for trying to put that card in a Dell computer (google it).
#6 Nov 26 2004 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
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ive actually searched around everywhere and still no luck
#7 Nov 26 2004 at 2:26 AM Rating: Decent
I think its just a heatsing for the videocard itself, there should be instructions on how to install it in the videocards manual. If not then return the dell and build ur own comp., way better and plus you know quality parts are going in there. Not too hard to do at all.
#8 Nov 26 2004 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
xKnightfallx wrote:
and while im on the topic.. i do have the option of returning this card. And if so i would be getting the ATI Radeon X800. Which do you guys think is better, they are very similar cards.


While looking to upgraade my own Dell I found out:

Dell motherboards are made to run on a their own low powered power supply. High performance on low power. It's not crappy at all.

The new GF card runs on 120 watts(I think) because it supports some DirectX Shader somethingorother technology. You'd probably need a new power supply and motherboard. I'm not sure.

What is crappy about Dell is that they make their computers in a way where your only safe bet, aside from practically making a new computer, is to buy things that are compatible with the parts they make... which are usually sold by them for super high prices. I will never buy another Dell. I'm buying parts and making my own comp when it comes time to get a new PC.

If you do decide to overhaul your PC I'd figure out what I want and then see if any computer stores sell their wares through EBay. It should be cheaper. For 512MB RAM(2x256) Dell wanted $300. I paid $179 for the same exact thing off EBay from yogi-computers.
#9 Nov 26 2004 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
Dell is like Pentium. AMD owns them.
#10 Nov 26 2004 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
Ok heres a dumb Question. Did u plug in the Video Card? When i first got my 6800 it freaked me out thta i had to use a power connecter to plug in the video card.
Dracosy
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#11 Nov 26 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I have the same card and it didnt come with any additional fan... and it also seems to be running extremely well... Like the last poster said, make sure that you have it hooked to the power supply. And are you sure they didnt send you a processor fan? the "big metal cage" almost sounds like a heat sink with the fan mounted to it. Just some thoughts.
#12 Nov 26 2004 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
ok, i have a nvidia geforece 6800gt by gigabyte...hope that was the one you bought instead of the other geforce 6800s(it not only has a Huge fan infront, it also has a Giant heat sink in the back. if you look at the installation hardware section in your manul, it tells you to connect the power cable to your video card...the power cable should be in the box and thats what you need to make the fan work. just to make sure you uninstall your old driver for your old video card before you remove it and get on the website to update the latest driver after you installed everything. hope this will help you. good luck.
#13 Nov 26 2004 at 3:40 PM Rating: Default
this is totally different subject but why would anyone in there right mind want to buy a computer from dell, gateway or even from alien ware??!!! you are throwing your money away people!! do some resurch and buy from your local comuter shops if you dont know how to put one together and you get to pick their brains too.
#14 Nov 26 2004 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Im pretty sure the cards in right because it can run my game. The card was shipped from DELL however in a Dell box so it had been opened prior to me getting it. Ive actually been on the phone with Dell for several hours and finally arranged for a tech to come by and see if he cant figure it out himself.

Word for the wise.. DONT buy a dell. The computers arent bad if you customise them yourself but they have the worst service ive ever encountered.

forgot to mention, there is also no manual in the box. They shipped it dry :(

Edited, Fri Nov 26 15:44:01 2004 by xKnightfallx

Edited, Fri Nov 26 15:45:32 2004 by xKnightfallx
#15 Nov 26 2004 at 3:51 PM Rating: Default
Heres what u do, take the Dell back. Take the money and go to your local pc Store or find a pc geek and have him recommend a pc store for ya. I've found out in 7 years of building pc's its cheaper and easier to build ur own. If 1 part goes bad, swap it out, for pc's like Dell you have to send the dasm thing back for 2-3 weeks service.
Dracosy
#16 Nov 26 2004 at 4:17 PM Rating: Default
Another Poor Sucker screwed by Dell....

Here's a Hint:

Find a really good local computer shop that has a sales rep that knows what he's doing and put you a package together that works.

Better luck next time..
#17 Nov 26 2004 at 5:03 PM Rating: Default
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Like a few have said, "Don't buy a dell, build your own". I do not recomend any name brand computer. It's always cheaper and better to build your own custom pc. If you can find a friend or relative that knows what they are doing to help you out. I've helped a few friends when they was looking for a good computer, and they end up saving more money and getting more bang for their buck. Be careful too, computer places charge $50 for an upgrade that takes 10 seconds and anyone can do.
#18 Nov 27 2004 at 4:51 AM Rating: Decent
as far as which card is better> as of now the nvidia 6800 256Mb is the top of the line but then again, if you dont have enough ram, you wont get the full effect of the video card. i had used both ati and nvidia in the past and now i am back at the nvidia again. who knows in the next 6 months maybe the ati will have something out that will blow the market away again. if you can return the gforce you have right now to dell, do so and get the one thats made by gigabytes. its just a much better nvidia 6800 gt card. also do some price shopping, i got my for $380.00 at PC Club, where some place sell it from $400-$500+ for the card and also buy on line its probably going to be cheapest because the retail markup are much lower.
#19 Nov 27 2004 at 12:47 PM Rating: Default
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atcually the comp i customised tured out pretty dam good. I know its still a dell and they have those lego block pieces but its a powerful machine none the less. Like i mentioned before though, the service is horrific. I just want to get this Video Card deal overwith so i dont have to speak with Dell for a long while.
#20 Nov 27 2004 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
Gotta cut Dell a little slack guys...

Yes their computers are giant legos(TM), but we are forgetting one thing when we keep telling everyone to "go make your own computer." Most of the people in the world don't even know what the inside of a computer looks like, much less know how to put one together. Granted paying someone to do build one is sometimes a viable option (though most of em charge $50 an hour), but for a common user of a comp dell is pretty good, exspecially with Laptops which aren't really customizable anyways.

In speaking from experience, the customer support for Dell isn't "that" bad compared to whats out there. I've had to send in a adapter for my laptop like 4 times... every time they would very promptly mail a shipping box and all for it. Once the screen broke during shipping (I'm guessing) cause when I got it back it was fully replaced, no charge. I can't complain when it comes to that. Now, not getting into tech support (I swear they just call a random number in India), but for replacing an honoring warrenties, its all good. Just for the love of god don't go Compaq(HP now?) or Gateway.

If your a little more knowledgable bout computers though, I would suggest building your own, or buying from a computer that lets your specifiy every part so you can at least still get a warrenty on it. I would suggest IBUYPOWER.com, but hell thats just me.
#21 Nov 28 2004 at 5:34 AM Rating: Good
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Dell's service depends on which 'Dell' you end up talking to. Their Consumer* service section is quite poor. Fortunately I deal with their Corporate section.

People buy Dells and Gateways because they won't want to or can't build their own PCs. You'd think we'd know this by now.

As for the 6800 GT, just take a look inside the box to see if the heatsink/fan's already attached, you don't need the extra heatsink/fan/slot cooler [it's a cage fan right? Looks like it will fit at the back of the PC, right below the power supply right? If you know how, put it in yourself, else wait for their tech to do it] but you do need to connect the additional Molex [4-pin, looks like a floppy or the newer connector] power supply or the card throttles down or worse. Bear in mind, the system temperature will get pretty hot without the extra cooling.

*The XPS section is supposed to be better... nope. Better luck next time Dell. Maybe if you weren't using ex-server techs who were lucky not be outsourced before XPS came along. At least yer better than CompUSA's 'gamers'.
#22 Nov 28 2004 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
get Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600XT. wicked!!

#23 Nov 28 2004 at 10:28 AM Rating: Default
I agree. My boyfriend runs local computer shop around here if anyone needs help? www.lunar-computers.com

#24 Nov 28 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
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I have a Dell notebook , and I love it. Flawless performance, no problems. SO neener neener Dell bashers!

EQ2 on a notebook, now if it only had a cup holder......
#25 Nov 28 2004 at 9:23 PM Rating: Default
ok, to make it clear, dell and most of named brand computer companies aren' bad. IT'S THE PRICE THAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR!!!they mark it up higher then it should. also, like gateway, most there stuff can't upgrade them...you have to send the tower bad or buy a new one 1 year later because of new hardwares. a computter parts goes out of date about every year if not less. it is better to build your own computer because most likely you can figure out whats wrong with it, when it goes wrong. don't forget that internet is a great knowledge base for finding out how EVERYTHING from hardware to software works.
#26 Nov 28 2004 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
As not to add another thread,

Does it matter if the type and speed of your video card RAM is different than that of your system RAM's type and speed?

Also, if you have a 256-bit interface video card can you use a 128-bit interface card to replace it?

I have a ATI Radeon 128MB 9700 and I think it has a 128-bit interface. The X800 has a 256-bit interface and I'm not sure if has something to do with the motherboard connector type or what.

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