I spent a bit of today grouped and working on killing some quest mobs. We had no healer and the mobs were multi-up arrow so we died a lot. After I started looking at my exp debt, it was approaching 80. Why should I care? We were, despite the deaths, completing quest objectives and having fun. Overall I made most of a level despite the deaths and the debt.
Personally, exp debt, shared debt and issues revolving around this are of no interest to me. If anything, death is just a hair too easy in this game. Nothing compares to naked corpse runs and losing levels like many of us are used to. Do I miss them? Mostly no - but I do get a twinge often that I just don't care about dying at this level, and that feels wrong.
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Ditching groups to avoid exp debt....SUCKSFollow
Well what is really nice with Exp debt is that you don't feel like you are regressing to early exp %, you stay at the same, but just takes you more to evolve.
This topic coudl go over on and on. But it all depends of the situation, many of us have experienced exp debt in many different ways. Some good, and some bad.
So this should just all make us be a little bit more careful for our own actions and someone elses.
This topic coudl go over on and on. But it all depends of the situation, many of us have experienced exp debt in many different ways. Some good, and some bad.
So this should just all make us be a little bit more careful for our own actions and someone elses.
I had it happen today. 2 Ratonga were bringing us to Wailing Caves (us meaning me and some other newbie) for the first time. We get in, they tell us to /follow...so we do. Stuff agros...like 7 mobs, it's pitch black and there's stuff attacking us from all ******* sides. I had only half MP to start because we had to fight something right outside the cave...they tell me to "stop nuking" ...which I wasn't doing, because..eh, I was trying to save what MP I had for healing.
Somewhere along the way something else accidently gets hit by one of us (sorry to say, I think I did it...but amidst all the confusion and people nearly ************ happens...and it's not like the targetting system in this game is pin point accurate at those times ~_~) half of us were dead already and now we got this other thing slapping us up, I die, I'd been out of Energy for quite a while.... the other newb and a warrior die...the Ratonga twins kicked the bucket, leave the group after they respawn...and I had a whole **** load of exp debt. I didn't bother asking them why they left. I had the same **** happen in FFXI enough times to know there are some people that have no patience...and would rather ditch their team mates in a rough spot than try to help them get out of it, all for the sake of exp. It's just exp to me, I've never ditched a dying party, mistakes made...bad pulls...whatever... it's a game. To me *meh* I'll make it up, and everyone screws up once in a while so I don't hold a grudge. But ya know...some people. ~_~;; Wonder if they picked selfish Ratonga for a reason or if it was just a coincidence between RP and IRL.
Somewhere along the way something else accidently gets hit by one of us (sorry to say, I think I did it...but amidst all the confusion and people nearly ************ happens...and it's not like the targetting system in this game is pin point accurate at those times ~_~) half of us were dead already and now we got this other thing slapping us up, I die, I'd been out of Energy for quite a while.... the other newb and a warrior die...the Ratonga twins kicked the bucket, leave the group after they respawn...and I had a whole **** load of exp debt. I didn't bother asking them why they left. I had the same **** happen in FFXI enough times to know there are some people that have no patience...and would rather ditch their team mates in a rough spot than try to help them get out of it, all for the sake of exp. It's just exp to me, I've never ditched a dying party, mistakes made...bad pulls...whatever... it's a game. To me *meh* I'll make it up, and everyone screws up once in a while so I don't hold a grudge. But ya know...some people. ~_~;; Wonder if they picked selfish Ratonga for a reason or if it was just a coincidence between RP and IRL.
ehehe i still remember the days of corpse runs in eq1. and to eny one who forgot about that and about exp dept well just SHHHHHHHHHHH becasue you dont know how easy we got it. once velius came out i remember when every one would go to city of mist and it was bound to happen but some one would tran a dragon into city and every one would wipe. youy would then run back into city to find a dragon with a half a mile agro radius siting over your corpse winking at you as it crushes your naked body and you lose a lvl. well i am happy for goup exp dept it makes the group for responsible for the actions of its group members. but for the casual bum that leaves when goings get tuff. well just black listem and they will eather stop or make a new char.
Ive taken to soloing a good deal now. I erased my brawler (may it rest in peace) and started a summoner for grouping and a crusader ( i dont like being main tank so i solo with it) for soloing. I just got sick of people ditching and others who dont know their *** from their head (not calling them noobs because the game is still to young to coin that term). It happened enough that just seeing the debt or my brawler period disheartened me. Im weary of people now, I try to group with people i know as much as possible to avoid the past problems.
Keep your head everyone these people will weed themselves out eventually, at least to a more bareable population...I hope.
Keep your head everyone these people will weed themselves out eventually, at least to a more bareable population...I hope.
oh jeeze this aint eq1, no there are no corpse runs, this aint FFXI either, but it is EQ2.
EQ sucked cus well who wanted to be able to lose eq and exp because of one death... not me.
FFXI sucked cus who wanted to lose 10% of your already hard earned exp and even, not likely, get to 75 and die so many time you could be lvl 1 all over again.
But one thing those games did have over this one, is that if you died it was in some way shape or form your doing. You suffered for your death, not every one in your group.
Taking this into consideration I belive the FFXI mentality of perfect group setups, and elite players will flourish in EQ2. and noobs running around in half the armor they should have, and asking, how do I /assist the tank... enchanters can tank right? will find themselves quickly going now where.
So yeah if you are a noob learn the game every bit of it, and if you ditch ur pt in the middle of a battle, or if you are a preist and refuse to rev som1 who died, cus the "Group sucked, and I'm leaving now NoobS" then ur an Bungholio. However this is no excuse for people to remain noobs... and at lvl 15+ you should know your elbow from your ahole and understand important aspect of the game.
This it is ok to be a noob, it is just a game, attitude is sickening. Yeah yeah its your opinion, but plz let others know if you dont take the game seriously when u get an invite, cus some people would like to be able to progress threw the game and achive level 50 with all the nice spells and all the nice armor/ weapons and run around killing stuff only noobs could dream of. cus that whats gaming is about, Progressing, not stagnation.
sorry for the flamelike response. but hey every once in a while.
EQ sucked cus well who wanted to be able to lose eq and exp because of one death... not me.
FFXI sucked cus who wanted to lose 10% of your already hard earned exp and even, not likely, get to 75 and die so many time you could be lvl 1 all over again.
But one thing those games did have over this one, is that if you died it was in some way shape or form your doing. You suffered for your death, not every one in your group.
Taking this into consideration I belive the FFXI mentality of perfect group setups, and elite players will flourish in EQ2. and noobs running around in half the armor they should have, and asking, how do I /assist the tank... enchanters can tank right? will find themselves quickly going now where.
So yeah if you are a noob learn the game every bit of it, and if you ditch ur pt in the middle of a battle, or if you are a preist and refuse to rev som1 who died, cus the "Group sucked, and I'm leaving now NoobS" then ur an Bungholio. However this is no excuse for people to remain noobs... and at lvl 15+ you should know your elbow from your ahole and understand important aspect of the game.
This it is ok to be a noob, it is just a game, attitude is sickening. Yeah yeah its your opinion, but plz let others know if you dont take the game seriously when u get an invite, cus some people would like to be able to progress threw the game and achive level 50 with all the nice spells and all the nice armor/ weapons and run around killing stuff only noobs could dream of. cus that whats gaming is about, Progressing, not stagnation.
sorry for the flamelike response. but hey every once in a while.
Also...
Here is one thing I heard when I was upset about some people in the party.
"It's just a game."
Is Baseball just a game? A women died in the last world series.
Is Soccer just a game? A goalie got killed because he didn't stop the ball on a Sudden Death in a World's Tournement.
I don't think MMORPG are just a game. If you think it's just a game, go play car games on PSX or whatever. I call a puzzle a game. EQ II is a growing community. EQ II is the wheel, and people that don't care about others and those who say "Meh!" when they get kicked out of a party when they died a couple of times because of THEIR fault, are the sticks.
Here is one thing I heard when I was upset about some people in the party.
"It's just a game."
Is Baseball just a game? A women died in the last world series.
Is Soccer just a game? A goalie got killed because he didn't stop the ball on a Sudden Death in a World's Tournement.
I don't think MMORPG are just a game. If you think it's just a game, go play car games on PSX or whatever. I call a puzzle a game. EQ II is a growing community. EQ II is the wheel, and people that don't care about others and those who say "Meh!" when they get kicked out of a party when they died a couple of times because of THEIR fault, are the sticks.
YEAH... WHAT HEAD SAID. WHEEL... STICKS... YEAH!
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What really bothers me is when someone joins a group and then dies on the way to where we are meeting. I have had that happen several times and now if I see someone's life going down I will kick the idiot before they die. Come on people, learn some manners.
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Titanus you should learn some manners. That can happen to anyone.
Chulita
Inquisitor 23
Dark Elf
Chulita
Inquisitor 23
Dark Elf
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What I can't stand is when you are at one place in the zone and you require a replacement player.. You invite the replacement player and he is at the other end of the zone and has to come to where your group is. On the way he dies and gives you xp debt. This is unaccepetable. Either disband or get yourself to where the group is without being invited, or as stated above, just boot them if they are getting whacked.
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wow,
first, running sucks. The only person has right to run is a scout simply because he can not do much when he is in the face of the enemy. But then even after he run he should come back and do his job from behind. (crap, it sounded dirty, but, you all get my point) :) I have played different MORPGs for a while and one thing I found everywhere is that there is no need to shout about idiots who do not know how to play. They will show themselves on their own. People will expirience their acts first hand and will put them on ignore themselves. Big deal. pff...
second, Dniem, no offence, but you are a maniac. relax a bit, Everquest is a MORPGame. Regardless how you put it, it still a GAME. It is very immersive GAME of cause, and some weaker minded people should be kept away from this GAME because it can ruin their lifes. So be carefull, not let it.
first, running sucks. The only person has right to run is a scout simply because he can not do much when he is in the face of the enemy. But then even after he run he should come back and do his job from behind. (crap, it sounded dirty, but, you all get my point) :) I have played different MORPGs for a while and one thing I found everywhere is that there is no need to shout about idiots who do not know how to play. They will show themselves on their own. People will expirience their acts first hand and will put them on ignore themselves. Big deal. pff...
second, Dniem, no offence, but you are a maniac. relax a bit, Everquest is a MORPGame. Regardless how you put it, it still a GAME. It is very immersive GAME of cause, and some weaker minded people should be kept away from this GAME because it can ruin their lifes. So be carefull, not let it.
Oh well... What I said before was just meant for people that don't really cares about dying and having exp. debt to think for others and be careful.
I have had that experience of inviting someone from afar and them dying on the way several times now, and yes it is quite frustrating. I mean, the least they could do is be careful, or ask for help if they are surrounded by mobs and they have no way out. I would prefer running back 2 minutes than having to carry someone's else mistake over my shoulder for the next 20 minutes.
I don't give a **** about Baseball, but others do. And I accept that. I care about the game, some might say to much, I don't think I care enough yet. Although that's up to everyone's personal choices.
Also, you can't kick someone out when they are engaged in a battle, if they are so you are too. Don't worry, I've tried it before... /wink Although if I'm wrong, tell me, would love to know for sure.
I have had that experience of inviting someone from afar and them dying on the way several times now, and yes it is quite frustrating. I mean, the least they could do is be careful, or ask for help if they are surrounded by mobs and they have no way out. I would prefer running back 2 minutes than having to carry someone's else mistake over my shoulder for the next 20 minutes.
I don't give a **** about Baseball, but others do. And I accept that. I care about the game, some might say to much, I don't think I care enough yet. Although that's up to everyone's personal choices.
Also, you can't kick someone out when they are engaged in a battle, if they are so you are too. Don't worry, I've tried it before... /wink Although if I'm wrong, tell me, would love to know for sure.
Good god can't we wait a month or two to start pretending we're either n00bs or elitists? ~_~ I just got done with that in FFXI. After I switched from PLD to play MNK I had to deal with getting 2 million gil together by lvl 40 for all the uber gear. You know how much that sucked? I did it, I had all the UBER ****, but I just wanted to play the fricken game. Can we all just PLAY THE FRICKEN GAME!!! for a while before we start all complaining about what is gimp and who is stupid blah blah? Man, this game is too new to even start making judgements on other players. We're all newbs at this yet.
This is true. My wife is a cleric and me a sorcerer. I picked a tank up and another mage and started killing gnolls. Tis was easy kills. Moving to another area with more difficult gnolls we experienced lagging and my wife wasnt able to get a heal off in time and tank died. He got ticked off. He probably didnt realize that she was angry also about it too, at herself. After next pull we were doing well than we had a bunch pop upon us and we had more than we could handle. We were okay but he called run and ran out of healing range and cleric still had lot of blue mana left. he died and left group. Then sec later his friend drop. I knew he didnt like dieing. I play my game, as a die or live experience. I believe that death in a group happens. I also believe and encounter is set up that not everyone in a group will survive every encounter. To finish my wife felt like crap cause she felt that it was her fault and was lacking at being a healer. I had to explaing that it is not one player. It is a full group. Had to explain the reason she was unable to cast and land many of the spells cause the tank was lacking on the agro management. Tank had a difficult time keeping agro off her. But did we complain about the NO. But these low lifes had to turn and make her feel like it was only her fault that a TANK died twice. BTW the first time only the Tank died. No one else... None the less the lesson here is that a full group succeeds their encounters ONLY if the encounter is killed. Deaths during it is not terrible. XP debt is not a negative thing. Just mean you get less xp while you are in debt. But i think this is a issue of low lifes ditching groups for this reason. I play with my wife cause we enjoy this game and playing together but low lifes like this really makes her want to play less, which interns makes me angry with these low lifes.
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From the Point of View of a Newbie:
I'm unfortunately one of those people who is sugar coated as far as aggro is concerned. I'm new to any kind of gaming at all, let alone EQ2 - and am learning how do get from one place to another without popping something.
I am very uncomfortable when someone asks me to group from across the server - for this very reason. I usually tell them no..I'll group when I get there because there's a real possibility that I'll get popped (I'm learning!)- and it's not fair for the group for me to die on them while going through this learning curve. (I AM getting better at it).
I'm pretty sure that once there I am an asset. I play a High Elf Druid (L16) with SOME HP, but not like a tank. If it's a guild member, I ask them to run to meet me. Sometimes a pain, but after Blackburrow at Level 12, I have PTSD..LOL
Although not an addict to EQ2 (I CAN quit whenever I want), I really want my experience to be positive..which means if you group with me, I want to do the best job I can. I'm new at how things work. I have had the experience of a player or two being annoyed when I ask for the group plan or strategy (so I can best do my role as the leader sees it) - as though I'm supposed to know it somehow etherically.
My usual group has a strategy wherein I target the lead Tank..and assist. It's very successful. I was part of a pickup group where the leader said "target <tank>" Because of my limited experience (with a successful strategy), I assumed what the leader meant was "Assist <tank>". When I did - the leader told me in group chat that if I couldn't be part of the team, I could leave right then..and Happy Hunting. What the leader was doing was telling the tank to pick a target, and go for it. (The encounter was very successful - it wasn't that what I was doing was detrimental-indeed, I was able to get off a couple of saving backup heals when the going got a bit rough). What they wanted me to do was smiting damage, etc to the strongest target.
So. Please be aware of folks like me. I'm not clueless, I'm just new. I play a healer, and am a paramedic in RL. I can triage lots of Real injuries better than most (been doing it for a long time) - I can triage yours in game and keep you alive. What I am LEARNING is the mechanical technical skills to be a good player, and I want to be as good as I can to help the group I'm in. Any suggestions are welcome. :)
I'm unfortunately one of those people who is sugar coated as far as aggro is concerned. I'm new to any kind of gaming at all, let alone EQ2 - and am learning how do get from one place to another without popping something.
I am very uncomfortable when someone asks me to group from across the server - for this very reason. I usually tell them no..I'll group when I get there because there's a real possibility that I'll get popped (I'm learning!)- and it's not fair for the group for me to die on them while going through this learning curve. (I AM getting better at it).
I'm pretty sure that once there I am an asset. I play a High Elf Druid (L16) with SOME HP, but not like a tank. If it's a guild member, I ask them to run to meet me. Sometimes a pain, but after Blackburrow at Level 12, I have PTSD..LOL
Although not an addict to EQ2 (I CAN quit whenever I want), I really want my experience to be positive..which means if you group with me, I want to do the best job I can. I'm new at how things work. I have had the experience of a player or two being annoyed when I ask for the group plan or strategy (so I can best do my role as the leader sees it) - as though I'm supposed to know it somehow etherically.
My usual group has a strategy wherein I target the lead Tank..and assist. It's very successful. I was part of a pickup group where the leader said "target <tank>" Because of my limited experience (with a successful strategy), I assumed what the leader meant was "Assist <tank>". When I did - the leader told me in group chat that if I couldn't be part of the team, I could leave right then..and Happy Hunting. What the leader was doing was telling the tank to pick a target, and go for it. (The encounter was very successful - it wasn't that what I was doing was detrimental-indeed, I was able to get off a couple of saving backup heals when the going got a bit rough). What they wanted me to do was smiting damage, etc to the strongest target.
So. Please be aware of folks like me. I'm not clueless, I'm just new. I play a healer, and am a paramedic in RL. I can triage lots of Real injuries better than most (been doing it for a long time) - I can triage yours in game and keep you alive. What I am LEARNING is the mechanical technical skills to be a good player, and I want to be as good as I can to help the group I'm in. Any suggestions are welcome. :)
Also another thing.
If you are not a tank and you get aggro during battle by one or many monsters from the mob, don't run away like a puss. If you run away, then everyone has to run after you and you might also run out of the healer's range (read story above). Also, the monster run a bit faster than you do, so you will get massive hit and damage even if you try to run away.
The best way is to stay where you are, or just run in your groupmate direction at least, not in their opposite. If you keep being heal and die, well it happens, it's part of the game, no way you can blame a healer unless something really happen, if so you won't be the only one noticing it.
Ayrielle : The only advice I can think of right now, is when you want to change of target to attack or cast a spell a new one, always click on the monster, instead of pressing Tab. Far too often other groupmate press Tab and accidentally cast a spell on another mob or solo monster close by.
Either way, as of what I can read, you are doing well, and congratulation on that. That is why I always prefer to play with more mature of age players. As of being 22 and started to play MMORPG at the age of 17, I noticed that being older in a way helps understand more of the game itself, instead of just the surface. I like to call it the maturity of the mind.
Edited, Thu Nov 25 18:36:03 2004 by dniem
If you are not a tank and you get aggro during battle by one or many monsters from the mob, don't run away like a puss. If you run away, then everyone has to run after you and you might also run out of the healer's range (read story above). Also, the monster run a bit faster than you do, so you will get massive hit and damage even if you try to run away.
The best way is to stay where you are, or just run in your groupmate direction at least, not in their opposite. If you keep being heal and die, well it happens, it's part of the game, no way you can blame a healer unless something really happen, if so you won't be the only one noticing it.
Ayrielle : The only advice I can think of right now, is when you want to change of target to attack or cast a spell a new one, always click on the monster, instead of pressing Tab. Far too often other groupmate press Tab and accidentally cast a spell on another mob or solo monster close by.
Either way, as of what I can read, you are doing well, and congratulation on that. That is why I always prefer to play with more mature of age players. As of being 22 and started to play MMORPG at the age of 17, I noticed that being older in a way helps understand more of the game itself, instead of just the surface. I like to call it the maturity of the mind.
Edited, Thu Nov 25 18:36:03 2004 by dniem
I must admit, i have bailed on groups that did things such as:
- allowed a sorcerer to tank
- pulled a red ^^ with no healer in group
- pulled a named red ^^ with no healer in group
- refused to back up out of the pop spot / agro range of mobs after repeated warnings
I did, however, tell them that i was leaving and why. I can only hope they learn. Also, i have only had to do this a few times and it was before level 9. I am now level 16 and you see a lot less of this newbieness in the later ranks. I dont expect to have to bail on a group any more.
- allowed a sorcerer to tank
- pulled a red ^^ with no healer in group
- pulled a named red ^^ with no healer in group
- refused to back up out of the pop spot / agro range of mobs after repeated warnings
I did, however, tell them that i was leaving and why. I can only hope they learn. Also, i have only had to do this a few times and it was before level 9. I am now level 16 and you see a lot less of this newbieness in the later ranks. I dont expect to have to bail on a group any more.
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Dneim, thanks for this advice. I never run until the Leader says 'run'. As a matter of fact, I usually get in trouble because I'm focusing on healing my group, and not myself. I depend on the Tanks to taunt bad guys off (I DO tell them if I have something on me), so I'm focusing on making sure they are well so they can.
If I have enough mana for..say..one heal - it's not going to me, it's going to the player that might be able to hack and slash their way to the end of the engagement...because the group all has my rezz spell. If even one player can get away, they can come back and rezz me (is my theory), and I can get the rest of the group. (Of course, this is extreme, we all hope for the 'successful' encounter! :)
Your advice really stands from the healer standpoint...the only 2 spells I have with any range are damage ones. Healing spells have to be done from closer in. If you are running away I can't possibly reach you - so your demise is a foregone conclusion.
Oh, and this reminds me. Please don't be so eager to engage a target that you can't wait the sixty seconds it takes for your healer to pass out the rezz spell! :)
Again, any thoughts or ideas on this theory are welcome - I'm learning. I had one tank tell me that if the group dies, they are usually the first to go. In an equal level group, to me this is just wrong.
If I have enough mana for..say..one heal - it's not going to me, it's going to the player that might be able to hack and slash their way to the end of the engagement...because the group all has my rezz spell. If even one player can get away, they can come back and rezz me (is my theory), and I can get the rest of the group. (Of course, this is extreme, we all hope for the 'successful' encounter! :)
Your advice really stands from the healer standpoint...the only 2 spells I have with any range are damage ones. Healing spells have to be done from closer in. If you are running away I can't possibly reach you - so your demise is a foregone conclusion.
Oh, and this reminds me. Please don't be so eager to engage a target that you can't wait the sixty seconds it takes for your healer to pass out the rezz spell! :)
Again, any thoughts or ideas on this theory are welcome - I'm learning. I had one tank tell me that if the group dies, they are usually the first to go. In an equal level group, to me this is just wrong.
Ok, this is a fresh story. This has just just JUST happen for real.
I was in Peat Bog doing a low level quest I missed before.
So I was just there kill faeries when a guy asked in shouts where was the Toxic Bog Slugs, so I'm like, well I like when people answer my shout, and I was right by the Toxic anyway. So I invited him in a gorup and told him to follow the waypoint right. Well he was grouped with someone else, and they both got killed on the way.
It's so retarded. At least there were like level 8-9 so I got like 3% debt only but still... just doesn't make you feel like giving an hand anymore.
I was in Peat Bog doing a low level quest I missed before.
So I was just there kill faeries when a guy asked in shouts where was the Toxic Bog Slugs, so I'm like, well I like when people answer my shout, and I was right by the Toxic anyway. So I invited him in a gorup and told him to follow the waypoint right. Well he was grouped with someone else, and they both got killed on the way.
It's so retarded. At least there were like level 8-9 so I got like 3% debt only but still... just doesn't make you feel like giving an hand anymore.
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LOL!! D..that happened to me, too...L15, in Oakmyst harvesting something - a L7 Priest yelled to find the Fairies (part of the Priest quest). I'm giving a hand, right..so I group her from the Castleview gate so I can show her where they are (right about the middle of the place). That's like MAYBE 10 steps to where she is. She turns the wrong way and gets eaten by a bear. LOL!!
I could have helped her with the bear (easy at this point), but she kept running around (see your previous post). I couldn't heal, smite, get the thing off of her or anything. So she died.
THEN to make matters worse, I'm standing right over her, just clicked the button to rezz her, and she revives!! LOL!!!
::sigh:: That was 3% debt, but I'm hoping it was even better Karma to help her finish her quest. (I did give her the 'if you're in a group don't revive until you've chatted amongst yourselves and determined that's the only way out' lecture).
I could have helped her with the bear (easy at this point), but she kept running around (see your previous post). I couldn't heal, smite, get the thing off of her or anything. So she died.
THEN to make matters worse, I'm standing right over her, just clicked the button to rezz her, and she revives!! LOL!!!
::sigh:: That was 3% debt, but I'm hoping it was even better Karma to help her finish her quest. (I did give her the 'if you're in a group don't revive until you've chatted amongst yourselves and determined that's the only way out' lecture).
I dont think having an elitist attitude will get you very far in this game atm. Hopefully it will stay that way also.
Ariyelle if their were more people starting out like you the word noob would thankfully lose its meaning. I just wish people would give new players a chance instead of calling them names and picking on them. Remember we were all "noobs" at one point.
If you boot someone for dieing on their way to you thats sad. Ive died on my way to a group before, its a long run and ne number of things can go wrong. If its like 3 times I understand....but once? Come on, grow up. The debt isnt severe enough to warrent that.
Ariyelle if their were more people starting out like you the word noob would thankfully lose its meaning. I just wish people would give new players a chance instead of calling them names and picking on them. Remember we were all "noobs" at one point.
If you boot someone for dieing on their way to you thats sad. Ive died on my way to a group before, its a long run and ne number of things can go wrong. If its like 3 times I understand....but once? Come on, grow up. The debt isnt severe enough to warrent that.
Well in my last story, I wasn't that upset. I actually laughed at it, because I thought back to this topic and found it funny instead. Because just when I thought about giving someone some help, it came right back at me. hehehehe
Also, when I need to run, I always use Veil of the Unseen, although I know only Mage class have that spell at some point (or maybe other classes does, I don't know) But it's a good habit to take.
Also, when I need to run, I always use Veil of the Unseen, although I know only Mage class have that spell at some point (or maybe other classes does, I don't know) But it's a good habit to take.
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Posted: Nov 25 2004 at 11:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey time for the flaming red neck to save the day from dniem. your such a total and compleat idiot thats it freeking funny. you think your F%$KING mature at 22? your a F%$KING punk @$$ little ***** and if i ever see you in game i am going to grab all the freeking reds in zone and die at your F%$KING feet. now people dont listen to that fruit cake dniem he is a stuiped fruit cake.
Oooohhh... Someone is in need of a spanking.
What is your problem by the way?
Look at what you said earlier and what you just told me.
Also, if you could try to speak more clearly, I would not have to try to translate your post into real and actual english.
Edit: Well, if it takes you 3-4 try to realize that someone is a complet imbecile. Well that's your problem. As for myself, if I invite someone, and they die twice on the way to me, and I haven't yet seen their face, it's enough for me. And what are you crying all about anyway?
Edited, Fri Nov 26 00:02:53 2004 by dniem
Quote:
well i play a lvl 12 crusader on faydark server. it is a very small server and you will mostly see the same people alot. when i group i allways start the group and maek sure that everything runs smoothly when i am group leader. the other day i was with a group i had just made. we needed a healer and the only one around was a lvl 9 priest. so of corse i invite him. BIG MISTAKE THERE. he was a total imbacile he got our group wiped 3 times. he would eather heal when you dident need it or not heal at all. one time he even went and started pulling........ now me as group leader decided this guy was an idiot and i did not want him. our group xp dedt was so high i still havent goten rid of it!!! well 3 people in the group told me it was him or them so naturaly i kick the bum. he then sends me a tell saying that it is my big loss and that i am going to get black listed for what i did....... he then trys to train us by grabing a group of gnools and runing then into our camp. =^) i love that no attack lock...... so he dies and we scater and then luagh at him. he gets even angryer and starts spaming that we trained him and were trying to ks him. i just said "HOW?" and people across the zone laughed at him. well the moral of the story is.... that as a group leader you sometimes have hard choices but you must allways concider whats best for every one not just the single person. =^)
What is your problem by the way?
Look at what you said earlier and what you just told me.
Also, if you could try to speak more clearly, I would not have to try to translate your post into real and actual english.
Edit: Well, if it takes you 3-4 try to realize that someone is a complet imbecile. Well that's your problem. As for myself, if I invite someone, and they die twice on the way to me, and I haven't yet seen their face, it's enough for me. And what are you crying all about anyway?
Edited, Fri Nov 26 00:02:53 2004 by dniem
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