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#1 Nov 19 2004 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
Well is it? I have a pretty decent machine with 512mg ram, will the game suck?
#2 Nov 19 2004 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
You will get alot of lag in the towns if you do not have 1 GB of ram.
#3 Nov 19 2004 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
YES. I'm on a 2.1 GHz Pentium 4 with 512MB of RAM and a GeForce 5500 128 MB video card. I can turn the graphics up to about midrange outside of the city and just deal with a less-than-stellar frame rate, but before I go to the city, I turn everything down to just about minimal. You NEED a gig of RAM for this game. Luckily, while I'm in the city, the gameplay is fun enough to make my worse-than-PS1 graphics settings bearable. I can't wait until I can afford more RAM...
#4 Nov 19 2004 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
necessary no...

an insanely good idea that will greatly improve performance yes
#5 Nov 19 2004 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
I currently have:

1.6ghz dell
512mb ddr ram
radeon 9800pro with 256/256
120gb drive with only EQ on it (Defragmented nightly).

the Nvidia g3 64mb was doable but i could barely move in city.
Now i can do cartwheels at the most crowded times on Permafrost...


Zamphir Panflute
Kusa/Troubadour
#6 Nov 19 2004 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
Not necessarily.

I have a p2.3 with 512mb pc3200 and my computer runs eq2 smooth as silk even in congested cities, with load times under 30 seconds. On medium settings.

Why? i have a raid array, and 1.5 gigs of space on that raid array dedicated to virtual memory. love virtual memory and it will love you back.
#7 Nov 19 2004 at 12:30 PM Rating: Decent
1 gig of RAM...*shrug*. Alienware computers seem to handle EQ well enough. 3.6 ghz processor and 4 gig RAM does the job well enough.
#8 Nov 19 2004 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
System
Opteron 146
2x Maxtor 80g in a Raid array
1024mg pc3200 ddr400
Asus SK8V
ATI Radeon 9600xt

Ran after I got another 512, I had 512 previously and it was choppy. Even with settings turned down. I am going to try and set more virtual memory and see what happens then...
#9 Nov 19 2004 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Gaealieg wrote:
3.6 ghz processor and 4 gig RAM does the job well enough.


*envious!*

Anyway, had 512 last week and had to keep many settings average or lower. 2.4Ghz, Radeon 9800 128 and 1gig of virtual memory. I still had massive stutters in North and South Qeynos and moderate in other zones. :( Upgraded my ram to 1gig and most settings are high with specular lighting (armor... droooool). Still can't turn on shadows though. ><

Hardly any stuttering, just a few instances with maybe 1sec in the highly populated zones. And the griffon doesn't drop me off in thin air anymore.
#10 Nov 19 2004 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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You'll have to excuse my ignorance...I probably should have added my other post to this thread. Anyhow, do different types of RAM have different speeds. Do different brands work better? Are there compatability issues with the processor and different kinds of RAM? I'm so unknowledgeable about these issues. I wish there was a EQ2 shop in my hometown, where I could take my comp and just tell them "Make this game WORK!"
#11 Nov 19 2004 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
I was trying to run arod Qeynos with only 512. I say trying because te game slowed down to a slide show basically. I slapped a second stick of 512 in my machine last night and the difference is amazing.

So, to answer your question: Yes
#12 Nov 19 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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MURedskin wrote:
You'll have to excuse my ignorance...I probably should have added my other post to this thread. Anyhow, do different types of RAM have different speeds. Do different brands work better? Are there compatability issues with the processor and different kinds of RAM? I'm so unknowledgeable about these issues. I wish there was a EQ2 shop in my hometown, where I could take my comp and just tell them "Make this game WORK!"


There are different speeds and types of RAM. If your computer is a couple, maybe more, years old, you probably have at least DDR RAM. You just need to know the type/speed it is. Mine is PC2700 (333Mhz). There's one lower, I think? And there's PC3200 (400Mhz). You need to match them up I believe, or performance, even system stability may be compromised.

Since I haven't been keeping up and refreshing my technical knowledge however, it would be appreciated if someone more knowledgeable could confirm or correct this.

As far as brands... the brand that came with my computer was Smart Technologies I think... but the ones I just bought, are Centon (sp? and I haven't heard of this brand before). It was on sale at CompUSA so I picked them up. If my computer explodes, I'll let you know.
#13 Nov 19 2004 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I upgraded mine to a gig this weekend. SO MUCH BETTER!! Still laggy at points, even with a 256 mb card, 1 gig ram, 2.4 processor and cable connection...but those are bugs Sony will have to work out, plus of course this game is designed for future comps rather than what we have now. So no matter what you will get a bit of lag.

But it is definately worth the upgrade, you can run a lot smoother, load times are way down...etc etc.
#14 Nov 19 2004 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
has anyone took advatage for the Kingston deal you get with the tin box dvd edition for the game. I am a computer noob when it comes to upgrades and all. I am running a Pent 4 2.3ghz 512 ram and a geforce4 ti. I just started to play last night been runnign around IOR for a few hours and was having no problems, but thier were only like 10 others on the island. I know i am going to need a better vid card and more ram and i ahve seen more than enough post on video cards. But what about Ram is kingston a good product are they fair in price?

Thank in advance for the info
#15 Nov 19 2004 at 7:05 PM Rating: Decent
I had 512mb RAM on a pc with a 2.2ghz processor and a 128mb geforce FX 5700LE graphics card and I had lag in qeynos and even sometimes outside the city. My pc only has 2 mem card slots (for some odd reason) so I replaced one 256mb card with a 512 for 768mb RAM and now it runs superbly. I plan on replacing the other card in the near future but for now, if it aint broke, don't fix it. Be careful with the brand of card you buy though. The first card I bought was a generic brand (K-Byte) and I kept crashing to desktop after about 10-15 mins of playing. Replaced it with a Kingston and alls well.....so far.. *knocks on wood*.

Good Luck!
#16 Nov 19 2004 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
with p4 2.4, GForce 4 128, and 768mb ram I have some lag which is acceptable. I can move smoothly when there are less than 20 ppls in front of my face. I got almost no lag outdoor area like commonland. I think 768 is minimum for now. of couse the more the better.

Edited, Fri Nov 19 19:31:19 2004 by Cheerboy
#17 Nov 19 2004 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
Just to add to my last post....I don't know if it's the same all over the country but I just bought my 512mb Kingston memory card at Best Buy for $94.99 with a mail-in rebate for $35.00. 60 bones aint bad for a 512mb card, especially from a good company! Check it out in your area to see if it's the same.
#18 Nov 19 2004 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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i notice these type of threads are usually pissing contests. "I have....", "Well, I have....."
#19 Nov 20 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
As I sit here reading the minimum specs on the shipping box (P3 1ghz/512mb ram/56k modem), I feel a laughing fit coming on. If you enjoy slideshows, I'd think those specs would allow you a jolly good time playing EQ2.

About the only one of those three with which I'd agree is the 512mb ram.

EQ2 is a game that demands alot out of a system >IF< you want to play it in (nearly) all its visual spelndor. If you have an Alienware system, then by all means crank up the resoloution and max out the detail and be awed.

But for the approximately 99.99995% of us who don't have access to such machines, we can still be treated to a visually stunning game that not only looks good but plays good as well if we are willing to dial some of the detail down. My system specs aren't nearly those of an Alienware system but I think the game looks and plays great at way less detail (and yes I have seen the game run on a fully tricked out system that makes the above mentioned Alienware system look like a C-64).

My advice is, if you can spend the money to upgrade to 1gb RAM, then by all means do so because it's an investment well worth the cost. Not only will it help you play EQ2, but Windows XP doesn't object to having the extra memory either. If you've got to make do with 512mb, then just turn off some detail and enjoy a game that still looks much better than EQ1 ever did.
#20 Nov 20 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm running 768 MB and not having problems with that; I think its plenty. I am lagging in cities, but I think that might have more to do with my old processor (AMD 1800+) than my RAM. As long as you arn't running any other programs, EQ2 never seems to go go above 512 MB useage once you leave a city zone, and the extra 256MB can handle the overload.

Always look toward your bottleneck first. Having 1gig of ram won't to do you any good if your processor or video card aren't up to quality. Just the same with each of them. Most people have good processors though, so that's usually moot however. :)
#21 Nov 21 2004 at 3:51 AM Rating: Decent
So how does one edit the virtual memory on their computer?
I have no problem in lag time .. have 1G of ram and all the other necessary stuff and am really enjoying this game but I've fiddled with my computer quite a bit and would love to know how to do the virtual memory thing.
Ya know, in case I need the info :)
#22 Nov 21 2004 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Vivvyn wrote:
So how does one edit the virtual memory on their computer?
I have no problem in lag time .. have 1G of ram and all the other necessary stuff and am really enjoying this game but I've fiddled with my computer quite a bit and would love to know how to do the virtual memory thing.
Ya know, in case I need the info :)

Check out this post for you Virtual Memory questions...
#23 Nov 21 2004 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
"3.6 ghz processor and 4 gig RAM does the job well enough."

Ugh. Thats insane


#24 Nov 21 2004 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
I know I'm getting 1 gb RAM as soon as I can, the lag in the city is maddening with the system I'm using now. (2.0 ghz, radeon 9800 pro, 512 mb ram, cable)

Lol, even FF XI ran a lot smoother, but that one ran almost smoother than EQ I did, so I guess that Sony just likes to make a really consuming game.
#25 Nov 21 2004 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Lag is insane for me in Freeport, I have to drop all the way to the lowest setting at the bottom. That is with a A64 3200+, 2 gig of memory and a 6800 Ultra, and I have about a 3 gig page file with 10,000 RPM SATA drives.

I am experimenting with some video settings though. Outside the city I have no lag at all on balanced, and that is with shadows on.

It was worse when I had the nvidia control panel (display properties) set to High Quality, on Performance it works better, and does not change the graphics ingame at all that I can tell.

If I get bored today, I might switch the 6800 over to the P4 system and see if there is any difference.
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