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I just bought a new system and went with 1G of the normal Kingston DDR PC-3200 ValueRam. My question is would upgrading to the Kingston Hyperx PC-3500 or PC-3700 make a big difference for EQ2? The price difference is not excessive and if there is that much of a difference between the two I think I will make the upgrade and dish out some cash for the Hyperx RAM.
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ok here is the 411 on the ram, Hyper x ram has heat sync, so it will take a lot longer for it to heat up and disturb your gameplay and it will also run faster, I have played EQ2 with just the pc3200 value ram and it ran good, then I replaced them with the pc3200 kingston Hyper-x and it ran awesome, it was almost like night and day. both were pc-3200
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where are the heat sinks located? you can buy heat sinks for processors seperately and also thermal adhesive, im sure you could jury rig something up to go on that ram if you wanted to go on the cheap, expecially if it makes that much of a difference.
The heat sinks on ram are basicly just two pieces of metel that are cliped to the stick. And they usually ave the RAM manufactures logo on it. Some actually get fancy and make fins on the heat sinks, or/and attach a fan to them.
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oh yeah..EASY then to jury rig that stuff up, i could do it for prob about 20$ and a metal saw :D and even makethe ones with the fancy fins on them lol
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You could probably do it for under 20 bucks, and no tools. They make kits for memory modules that are premade.
Now as far as the memory question... May be worthwhile or not, as the difference is not massive. If you can get Lower Latency modules, that can run very tight timings, then you will notice somewhat of an improvement.
The PC4000 and above are mainly there for overclockers, say if you run the FSB at 250 Mhz or higher as opposed to the 200 FSB that is standard.
Now as far as the memory question... May be worthwhile or not, as the difference is not massive. If you can get Lower Latency modules, that can run very tight timings, then you will notice somewhat of an improvement.
The PC4000 and above are mainly there for overclockers, say if you run the FSB at 250 Mhz or higher as opposed to the 200 FSB that is standard.
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When i was looking on pricewatch to buy ram alot of the companies will put it on for not much more just gotta look around.
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seems like getting dual channel DDR ram would be best, not sure if you can only use this on the new 64 bit systems or not. then putting the heat sinks on yourself
You do NOT want to waste your time with fancy Dual-Channel memory.
Get a 1 gigabyte, or maybe 1.5 gigabytes of regular memory thats apropriate to your system, and you are fine with EQ2.
The most important thing you can do is adjust your graphics settings. I have a pretty beefy PC (by 2002 standards), and I pull a good 20-40FPS (Frames per Second) in msot zones. In Freeport I drop to around 15-30FPS. Not great, but okay given the fact that there's not much action in Freeport.
Once you have a gig of ram, there's only 2 things to worry about performance-wise:
1) An ATI9700pro or GeForce 5900 series graphics card or better.
2) a 2.4ghz+ or 2500XP+ CPU or better.
Any of the AMD64 systems is more than enough. Any Intel 2.5ghz+ system is more than enough. Any AMD XP system (2500XP+) is more than enough.
The most important thing you can do is MAKE SURE YOUR GRAPHICS SETTINGS ARE APPROPRIATE. Consult the following thread at Everquest2.com for more details:
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tech_support&message.id=3265
That thread has helped me more than anything else to get my EQ2 performance up to par. Prior to reading that thread, I was ready to quit the game due to bad performance. I am not a warez OverClocker boy who knows all the dirt on all the graphics cards & cpus. I do however know what ****** performance feels like, and with the help of the aforementioned thread I was able make EQ2 a smooth enjoyable experience on my 2 year old system.
Edited, Fri Nov 19 00:40:33 2004 by siyona
Get a 1 gigabyte, or maybe 1.5 gigabytes of regular memory thats apropriate to your system, and you are fine with EQ2.
The most important thing you can do is adjust your graphics settings. I have a pretty beefy PC (by 2002 standards), and I pull a good 20-40FPS (Frames per Second) in msot zones. In Freeport I drop to around 15-30FPS. Not great, but okay given the fact that there's not much action in Freeport.
Once you have a gig of ram, there's only 2 things to worry about performance-wise:
1) An ATI9700pro or GeForce 5900 series graphics card or better.
2) a 2.4ghz+ or 2500XP+ CPU or better.
Any of the AMD64 systems is more than enough. Any Intel 2.5ghz+ system is more than enough. Any AMD XP system (2500XP+) is more than enough.
The most important thing you can do is MAKE SURE YOUR GRAPHICS SETTINGS ARE APPROPRIATE. Consult the following thread at Everquest2.com for more details:
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tech_support&message.id=3265
That thread has helped me more than anything else to get my EQ2 performance up to par. Prior to reading that thread, I was ready to quit the game due to bad performance. I am not a warez OverClocker boy who knows all the dirt on all the graphics cards & cpus. I do however know what ****** performance feels like, and with the help of the aforementioned thread I was able make EQ2 a smooth enjoyable experience on my 2 year old system.
Edited, Fri Nov 19 00:40:33 2004 by siyona
Some more concise info:
AMD XP systems do not benefit from any significant way with Dual Channel memory, unless you have confidence issues with the length of your *****.
Older AMD 64 systems with the Socket-754 design do not support Dual-Channel memory at all.
Newer AMD 64 systems with Socket-939 gain a 5-10% performance boost from Dual-Channel memory.
If you are playing EQ2 and the game is jerking about like a IBM PC-XT @ 10mhz, Dual Channel memory isn't going to fix anything. Adjust your graphics settings and make sure your graphics card isn't a piece of crap GeForce MX or 5200.
If you have less than a gig of memory, by all means upgrade to 1gb.
Edited, Fri Nov 19 01:00:48 2004 by siyona
AMD XP systems do not benefit from any significant way with Dual Channel memory, unless you have confidence issues with the length of your *****.
Older AMD 64 systems with the Socket-754 design do not support Dual-Channel memory at all.
Newer AMD 64 systems with Socket-939 gain a 5-10% performance boost from Dual-Channel memory.
If you are playing EQ2 and the game is jerking about like a IBM PC-XT @ 10mhz, Dual Channel memory isn't going to fix anything. Adjust your graphics settings and make sure your graphics card isn't a piece of crap GeForce MX or 5200.
If you have less than a gig of memory, by all means upgrade to 1gb.
Edited, Fri Nov 19 01:00:48 2004 by siyona
Yea, i built a new comp (FX-55, X800 XT PE, and i got 2GB of corsair ram dual channel) however, it was registered ram and i f'ed up on that part. So, while i was getting my ram exchanged, i had a replacement of 2gb of regular bs ram. After i got my corsair XMS memory, it was a complete difference. Spend a little more money and get lower latency memory with a heat sync and dual channel if your mobo supports it.
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ok here is the 411 on the ram, Hyper x ram has heat sync, so it will take a lot longer for it to heat up and disturb your gameplay and it will also run faster, I have played EQ2 with just the pc3200 value ram and it ran good, then I replaced them with the pc3200 kingston Hyper-x and it ran awesome, it was almost like night and day. both were pc-3200
Ok here is the REAL 411 on the ram (whatever that means). Heat sinks on ram are for looks. Pure and simple. Ram doesn't get that hot unless you change the voltage to it. The real difference between them is the timings. I'm not going into an explanation but if you want to know go to overclockers.com and read some articles.
411 means information. If you live in the us pick up your phone and dial 1-411 and you will get an operator asking you what you are looking for. If you live outside the US I have no idea what this does, and could quite possibly cause you serious injury so i take no responsibility for it's use.
ON TOPIC:
I use DDR2 memory, and found no difference between the 1GB I had and the extra 1GB I added (2GB total) for EQ 2. P4 3.0GHz, PCI express geforce 6600GT video, all the goodies on.
ON TOPIC:
I use DDR2 memory, and found no difference between the 1GB I had and the extra 1GB I added (2GB total) for EQ 2. P4 3.0GHz, PCI express geforce 6600GT video, all the goodies on.
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make sure your graphics card isn't a piece of crap GeForce MX or 5200.
The game won't even run on an MX, believe you me. MX doesn't support pixel and vertex shading. If you don't believe me, ask my wallet.
lol ask your wallet. That's funny
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