EQ 2 = more lies from Sony.Follow

Would the original poster of this thread like some cheese with that whine?

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>< Stupid Double posting crap!

Edited, Fri Nov 12 15:36:25 2004 by TheOutlawStar

Have to agree with most posters here. The tlc actually seems to be a good idea. Kinda sux to have a high level come clear out the newbie yard just to be greedy and want to sell other items or twink with them. Have to realize that your need is not as important as the 30 other newbies needs taht you are taking their mobs from. So go SoE!! (thought id never say that) :P
<And no Im not saying taht cause i was a newb in EQ,cause I was far from it...just think its fair is all>

There are bugs be sure of that but over all SoE has done an EXCELLENT job on this...I rember the Luclin days which forced me to quit for a while after that disater of a release :)

The boots kinda suck but thats not really why i preordered anyway. I preordered just so i was gauranteed a copy and i thought the chacter creation disc was awsome. So kinda disapointing but I think EQ1 just spoiled us to speed and we will have to get used to be a bit slower :)

-Anestacia Mindmelter - Legions of Valhalla - Morrel Thule Level 70 Enchanter
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=774551
-Anestacia - Najena - Level 12 Enchanter

Please stop whining - PLAY your char and don´t TWINK him, so you wont get in troubles in higher levels, when its necessary to know the facilities of your char and not only win fights due to your uba-equipment.
In EQ1 there are a flock of very well equipped chars, but the player had no idea how to play.

Something I think alot of people are missing here is that the money system has undergone a huge change. Coins increment in value based on hundreds now, not tens. Coppers actually have value and all that cheap loot you used to let rot on corpses is now precious. I'm lvl 11 Predator now and I've yet to see more than 15 silver in my hand at one time. I had to bank aside the 5s for house maintainance just to make sure I would have it when it was due (not sure what will happen if you dont have it, not anxious to find out.) And many of the things you used to have to buy (ie lumber for tradeskills) you now mine or harvest at no cost.

If you want a real clue as to the shift in funds value, go to the stables and look at how much a horse costs. It aint 10K+pp, by a long shot.

So far my only real problem is the fact that many of the quests are bugged and not paying off at all. And that the raw material spawn rates are unbalanced. Gathering elm once in freeport is almost impossible. I've been trying to fulfill my first guild quest of 15 elm since day one and only gotten 11 so far. But herb gardens and rocks are all over the place.

We'll just have to see what we see. I think the real complaints will start rolling in after the second or third week when people achieve that specialized level 20 and start screaming for "What Now!!!"

Hopefully it will be easy to farm greens, or do quests for gear to get you by until you can get your guild into permafrost for some vox loot :)

When I first read this I got mad about TLC, but then realized that in other games, I rarely farmed low level mobs, I wanted to farm raid zone mobs (or solo, the toughest mobs i could) to have the chance at the best loot i could get.

I guess the counter point is, there may be a few really uber low level items that people wont hear about until later, and because of TLC will either have to pay the price gougers or start an alt :/ But hopefully gear gets better with level, and your access to better gear thereby goes up with level.

I'm mad too! They promised this game would be much better than Everquest 1, but when I logged into the game my character was level 1, had no epic, no time dropped gear, and 0 aas! >:(

One of my big problems with mmorpgs is the economy and the huge advantage power players get from playing so much. It wasnt just about the love the the game for some but the love of exploiting the game. In this I mean if you are level 20 and keep going back and camping that same mob over and over to get that item to sell, you had a huge advantage over a group of level 10s that wanted to camp it and get exp and loot. Not only because you are more powerful, but because you dont have to form a group and don't have to get organized and show up and do the job.

One thing that seems to have been lost in EQ 1 is that it lost its focus of what it's original intent was. I dont think they intended for players to be able (or want to) exploit the sytem for personal gain. The game is supposed to be fun. Why don't people just play it instead of complaining about every little thing they would do differently. Not to say that there arent things that need changing or updating, just when it comes to feeling you are entitled to something, or that things have to be a certain way, remember there are always two sides to the coin. It's very hard to look back to how you felt when you first came into EQ and all the other players seemed sooooo powerful and rich and you were a big huge nothing. For some this is inspiration, for others it is just too overwhelming. And for others, they say, heck with this, how can I exploit this system so I can catch up to all the uber gods on the game.

By the way, I was never in favor of companies giving gear away so you would pay more for the CD's. I think gear should be earned in game. Why complain about something you didn't earn. And if thats the reason for buying a collectors edition, remember that the whole concept behind collectors edition is that it is a marketing ploy. Rarely have I seen it be worth it, but for those true enthusiasts, its a good deal.

Wow what a rant...thanks for letting me share...I in no way mean any disrespect to the original poster.

adamaant

The only problem with the TLC and I know that there was at least one instance where it became a problem was where an item drops in the form of the chest that is needed for an access quest. I had heard about this during beta where and I don't remember which access quest, but the person needed an item that dropped from a particular mob and it dropped as a chest item. but when he eventually got around to the mob it was already gray to him and he couldn't get the mob to drop the quest item. Now I don't know if SOE has corrected this problem. I do know it was reported during beta.

But others are correct. With other factors in play also, the TLC is not that major a factor as some make it out to be.

Ok, about that suicidal kid. I know this is off topic but still...

He had a warrior on the PvP server who was almost never defeated. He was finally killed while carrying all of his money (amounting to 200-300k, somewhere in there) and all was taken. Apparently he had been saving that money for months. He DID have a long term mental condition (manic depressive) which had just began treatment. His mother, just like a guy posted, tried to blame the game and, taking advantage of the horrable situation, sued SoE. Upon SoE showing solid medical evidence of his mental condition, the case was dismissed.

I only know this because a friend of mine was in the same guild as him and his toon died in the same fight.

As for the TLC thing, it is and isnt a good idea. I feel that at 3 AM or some other late time it should go off so all of the high levels or other late dwellers could go grab some stuff, take for example the Hill Giants in EQ.

My 2 cents worth.

Edited, Sat Nov 13 12:03:12 2004 by graynomas

TLC: Trivial Loot Code that supposedly affects drop rates on grey mobs and is mostly concerned with chests dropping I believe.

so let me get this straight, the TLC system makes it so you can't get the armor or special item drops if you're higher level but you can still get the craft items? if that's the case, i like that idea.

To the original poster. I really don't know what you are talking about. They said " A LITTLE BURST OF SPEED" for when you need to get somewhere or if mobs are chasing you.

Yea sprint works, but that only lasts so long, and the mobs if they havent given up on you yet WILL CATCH YOU. I throw my J boots on when I need to run, yea it takes about 3 secs to get away..... But guess what, they can't catch me. SO YES it does help and does increase your speed.. I don't feel gipped at all. Besides, it's a pre-order, that's all. Not like you paid more. You just put 5-10 dollars towards your purchase and garantees you a copy...which they seemed to drop the ball on, but thats a diffrent story....

It maybe that you wanted a particulerly useful lower lvl item to use, but for every one of you there was 30 other bastards who wanted it to line thier pockets with some obscene amount of pp. The world is full of these ppl and this is SOEs way of trying to level the playing field for everyone.

Edited, Sat Nov 13 17:43:42 2004 by WasteOfSpace