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Sounds like some one really hates the fact that 7, a game YOU really don't like was successful. It's funny when people say things like "See it for what it is"
Like the original release of VI, it had a lot of broken features in terms of character progression. Not broken as in "OP", but broken as in doesn't work at all. It also had a significant amount of glitched battles due to the format they went with at the time, if you accidentally force certain monsters to use a certain move that shouldn't be possible normally, congrats, you lost your save game on disk 2 or stuck in an infinite loop and pray you remembered to save before hand. There's also a few status debuffs that doesn't work, which sure can be great, but makes it a farcry from the "perfect" game it gets touted as.
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yes a few, claiming the game was poor yet they don't say why
The same reason as any arguments that goes against your own belief - You choose to ignore it. I've seen plenty (including myself) state exactly what's wrong with VII because it truly was a flawed game because that's simply the nature of
RUSHING OUT a game, it's going to have some significant issues. Let's not even talk about the localization.
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The only excuse people use is that "Its first 3D FF, most likely your first RPG/FF Game". Well it wasn't my first, wasn't my second or 3rd.
Here's proof that you simply choose to ignore the arguments - Considering the age of gaming and release timing, FF7 was
many first people's final fantasy game and even rpg in general you can't deny it, it's been stated numerous times even by Square themselves and if you paid attention to the media at the time, it's what actually drove RPGs mainstream outwest because, once again as stated, many people's first time playing a "full length" RPG and companies seen that it was catching on out west and thus the RPG boom happened. Was it yours? No, good for you, but was it many others? Indeed it was and that's why it gets acclaim, just like super mario 64 gets the most acclaim even though there were better ones before and after.
There's always been great RPGs before either traditional or action etc, for example Chrono Trigger was an amazing RPG, did it get as much acclaim as 7? Hell no. Have people been expecting more like people expect a remake? Hell yes because Chrono Cross left more to be desired after you beat it and Radical Dreamers was a visual novel.
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If you have such a problem with 7 I find the best thing to do is not get involved with discussions because your post has pure hatred behind it and perhaps you are blinded by it.
Yet having absolutely nothing but praise for it would make you blind as well. More so, honestly.
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Not everyone has the same taste
What I don't get is how you say this, yet in the same statement state someone shouldn't enter a discussion because their opinion differs from yours. Funnily enough, my favorite FF game wasn't forgotten, it got an HD Remaster recently, actually and my 2nd favorite FF game wasn't even a Final Fantasy game, it was a SaGa game.
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the story was over thought and complicated from something that should have been simple.
Exactly like FFVII. Square even admitted that a lot of the prequel games were done in order to fill in the gaps left due to rushed development of VII. VII has a lot of unfinished elements including story segments, some out right cut. So while SE milks the living hell out of 7, it truly wasn't that great of a game when you analyze it because even the ones who made the damn game admits there were a lot of issues with it. Hell they didn't even fix the glitches in later iterations, maybe they will for the PS4 version if they do anything with it at all. So sorry to break it to you, but I don't have 'blind hate' for VII, I dislike it as a game because I can't look past what was flawed with it and I can actually admit that most of its praise is because it truly was a lot of people's "first love"...
Which brings up an ironic point that a lot of people love to throw around the term "nostalgia" whenever someone likes anything else from the past, but FFVII gets involved? How or why would that be exempt from "nostalgia"?
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The real first moment SE realised how much love there is for FF7.
This would happen with anything - Especially if you remember how a 7 remake was always rumored/asked for prior to that, then suddenly Square shows that and says: "nope". The same happened with the Biohazard games in Japan, then we finally got the GC remakes. Square knows the love for 7, much like they know the love for other series that gets no love from them, like SaGa, Mana and Chrono because let's not even talk about the unfortunate fate of the Mana games, which were also praised despite too having severe flaws (and I loved Seiken Densetsu 2 and 3.)
Edited, Dec 15th 2014 7:20am by Theonehio