SE Should buff Guildhests...Follow

I understand everything you're saying, and while I don't disagree with any of it I can't help but wonder... even if everyone in your FC is busy, they can't spare the 5 minutes it would take to get you through this? It's not like they take long at all.

Howdy! Although I completely agree with the points you made regarding the hests (including them so late into the story was a silly decision), there is something important you should know...

Whoever has told you that you can't hunt until after the main scenario was lying. My FC recently had 2 people join (relatives of a core member), and whenever an A rank would pop, a group of 50's would invite these 2 to a party. The earliest I personally went with them, 1 was a lvl 32 white mage, the other a lvl 38 warrior, and they received 20 seals, 80 myth and 20 soldiery. The person playing warrior had enough myth and soldiery BEFORE hitting lvl 50 or finishing praetorium, to purchase a full set of I 90, which he wore as tank when he actually did run praetorium with us as a FC.

The person you spoke to may be referring to the daily/weekly hunts, which can only be unlocked by hitting maximum rank in your grand company, which is not tied to main scenario progress. These contribute nice seals, but if gearing to I 90 is your goal, join a PF group, which you can do at ANY lvl on ANY job at ANY point, and you will be able to afford a full set in a matter of hours!

Hope this helps :)

The rewards are great already at the level you should be doing them. I think it's pretty hilarious how they force Guildhests on the players who are so fixed on LEVEL 50!!! that they can't be ***** to doing more than the bare minimum to get there.

Indeed. I think Guildhests are fun and I do the roulette occasionally just because of that. Join our FC, catch a time when I'm online, and I'll gladly come heal or dps for you.

Huh.

They allow you to get seals before allowing you to pick up the daily/weekly hunts off the board?

That doesn't make much sense and it is very misleading lol. I'll give it a try, thanks!

Technically that's what the class quests are supposed to do. I remember getting yelled at by the guy during the level 15 GLD quest because I needed MOAR FLASH.

I suppose I could just grind Myth instead, seeing as I can get what, 340 (sometimes 440) per day if I do all the roulettes and the worst you need is like 875 for major pieces.

I already bought a necklace and I've enough to buy another accessory (replacing lowest item level items first obviously).

Went from 44 up to 50 just by doing that (the necklace was really outdated lol).

You now get a first time bonus for completing a given guildhest on a new job.

Strange. I do guildhests often (certainly to get the bonus each day), and generally haven't had a problem with queues, even on dps jobs.

While I wouldn't really disagree with upping the rewards, the real issue of the quest aspect is it was a retroactive addition to mostly antiquated and largely unpopular party content. Overall, it's just a weird form of tier gating that's harder to overtake because of the unpopularity. So, if one makes the rewards too good, you might breed some resentment from those who don't really want to add them to a daily rotation, achievement hunt, or whatever other possible quest relations. "They don't take long, just bug your FC!" is kind of a cop out line, too, as it does indeed mean interrupting whatever else they were doing in pursuit of their personal progression for something SE decided to add just because.

So, my take on this is more that the related quest should actually be removed or modified into a more solo-friendly counterpart. Content should strive to not be a hassle, and accessibility is one part of that equation. So, even if one person claims to never have queue issues, there's the factor of time tried and an individual's server cluster ultimately being forces outside their control.

Kind of sad that bad gating mechanisms are still popping up in 2014.

The problem with the Goobbue is that nobody tells you that you can just WAIT for the Purple Circle to disappear.

It is inconsistent with the rest of the game: When there's a purple circle, stepping into it instantly makes the aggressive mobs pop that you must kill, right?

Not in THIS Guildhest, no. You're supposed to wait and then the mobs appear. If you waited, you can pull the mobs without linking the Goobbue (assuming you waited outside the circle).

But nowhere in the Guildhest does it actually TELL you this, though.

In fact, the guy in the Guildhest says "That purple circle is a danger zone, pull the mobs before the goobbue sees you" (pp).

I didn't know this, until I finally saw a tank do it right, and then I was like "OOOOH, that's freaking Lame." because it behaves differently than the rest of the game with respect to purple danger zones.



As others have said, Guildhests are supposed to be those places where you go where NPCs tell you how to play the game. It is quite an ingenious feature, but as you said it is unpopular and I can't help but to believe it is unpopular because it gives little-to-no rewards in-game. It teaches players, and that's awesome, but it isn't enough for your average joe to actually care about doing them.

Now, if you added some good rewards that are good until Lv50 (that way, endgamers don't feel the need to endlessly spam these every single day amongst all the other stuff they're already doing), then maybe lower-level people would do them more, thus a more populated Roulette queue.

I mean, really, why do people not like Guildhests?

1). Long Wait Times on the ones your forced to do
2). Very little rewards
3). No real "reason" to do them outside of those few times you're forced to

If you gave them rewards and buffed them up a bit, then you'd solve all of the above. And I'm sure #4 would be "they're too easy" but... that's kinda the whole point of the Guildhests in the first place. Endgamers are always whining about clueless players, well......here's the solution. Now we just need to get said clueless players to actually DO the Guildhests. Guildhests won't solve laziness, but if you dangle some rewards in front of their faces, they might be more inclined to do them. Of course, Extremely lazy players will still stand in the bad, etc, not because they don't know, but because they can't be bothered to do better. Guildhests won't solve that, no. But still, if even a few players who honestly didn't know/realize some of this stuff are taught, the game comes out better for it as a whole.

Also, I think the Guildhest system could have been better introduced; they wait until Lv50 (and AFTER Ultima Weapon!!) until they say "Oh, btw, you should do some of these low-level Guildhests..." .......by then, you know all of this stuff (or should already, after going that far through the Main Quest Line) already. The only reason they want YOU in the Guildhests, is to teach other players.... but the problem is, the lower level players aren't doing the Hests 'cept for a bit of extra XP (and it is usually the same 2-4 Hests over and over again which teaches nothing).

I think, TBH, some of these Hests should ashown up in earlier stages of the Main Quest Line, one at a time sparsed throughout the Main Quest Line, and the Hests themselves should have had some Main Quest Lore as to why you're actually doing them. I mean, 'cmon, capturing a Gil Turtle by putting it to sleep? Surely they coulda thought of something that actually had something to do with the MQ or something instead.

Edited, Sep 19th 2014 9:46am by Lyrailis

I think what bothers me most is that there are multiple linking mobs in the three groups, but Marauders don't have an AoE hate move at level 10 (unless they cross-classed Flash), and they don't have a ranged pull move, either.

Edited, Sep 23rd 2014 9:41am by Xoie