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EXACTLY!

Grindy =! Challenging.

That is due to the advent of desynthesis. Many people (like me) are too lazy to go and find an armor shop and instead they buy off the board.



I'm sitting on 8.5 million, half off of early XIII retainer ventures, and the other half off of furniture sales in 2.3 and speculation. Wanna race to 10 Kat?

It has its clear benefits. However, the downside are fringe cases like yours.

Why do people do lottery when they could put aside 50 euros every month for a statistically better long-term investment? Chance has its perks.

Now that the chance is gone, I've lost most of my motivation to progress my Animus.

Used to play more, but then kid #2 came along, wife went back to work from mat leave and boom! Decreased play time. Throw on full time work with 12 hour shifts, you're not going to want to play much more then a few nights a week. If you really only focus on one job, it's pretty easy to stay relevant with everything from Coil to Extremes, to dungeons. You also have no idea what people had leveled from 1.0 and what they were able to start off with.

We have people in our FC who barely play an hour a day and they're enjoying it. Same boat as me, used to play quite a bit more but it's tapered off and they're shockingly still enjoying it. If you think you NEED to play 10+ hours a week to enjoy an MMO, then I don't know what to tell you. I used to just be in school, with no girlfriend, no kids, no true commitments beyond playing hockey twice a week so ya, I could sink in massive time to MMO's (stupid FFXI). The game is enjoyable, that's all that matters at this point. Some weeks I don't even manage to play, and it's not the end of the world. Again, you focus on ONE job, you can easily gear it up with i70, 90, 100 whatever the going rate is and static Coil once a week for 2 hours.

I disagree with you a bit, but it comes down to personal preference.

I'm only semi-hardcore in mmos. I have the gameplay skill to clear content, I just don't have the time or patience to grind thousands of tomes or watch my healers fall off Titan EX for the 9 billionth time.

I don't believe that all gear and content is the right of every paying subscriber. There shouldn't be 2 paths to the same item. I have nostalgia for the gear progression in FFXI, where I just accepted that there are some things I would probably never get, like Relics, etc. I miss having lofty goals that, when you saw someone with it, it was a linkshell-worthy conversation. "Oh wow, I got Xsquallx in my party with an Erhmegawd+1!"

The main thing is, I don't want the alternative to playing 12 hours a day to kill the hardest content be "or fight 900 boring as hell fates to rub the dirt off your pants." I don't have a good suggestion to fix it though... So I just find myself without motivation to play it.

It took 99% of statics weeks to complete Twin if not months. Blugartr was about the only one to down it in a relatively short manner, and even that was weeks (probably because of the no access to T5 due to glitch). T6-9 was downed pretty quickly, again by one FC and it took the others a couple weeks to complete. Yoshi admitted he was a little surprised how fast it was done so I wouldn't be surprised if the next endgame dungeon is a little harder. My guess is it took Blugartr hundreds of tries to complete T5 and T9 respectively. You have to think, they enforce 12 hour/day playtimes upon content release and just repeatedly bash their heads against a wall until they win.

I guess my question to you is, have you tried any of this prior to any guides being released? My guess is it would be similar to what your describing for WoW. Of course, once the win happens and strats get out, it inevitably gets easier for everyone else along with the gear they've obtained along the way. If any endgame boss is taking any longer then that to defeat, it's just poorly designed.

Depends on what you're expecting out of this MMO - It's not terrible but it's not great either; There's very little depth or challenge in the content as a lot of the challenge comes from managing one hit kill mechanics everywhere. If you've played MMOs like WoW, Knight Online, HAL, Silk Road and so on you'll enjoy ARR since it doesn't deviate one bit from the "norm" - if you enjoy MMOs that offer a ton of depth and strategy in any fashion, ARR may turn you off in some regards. If you've played FFXI at all in its 12 years of service you'll notice they tried to make a lot of improvements on the platform but ended up falling short in some in order to maintain said "norm", for instance there's no room for being creative with the job system in order to try new strategies without either being completely cheese (Turn 2 Enrage) or exploiting a benefit only available to pets (Ramuh Extreme SMN tanking.) Maybe come the expansion pack will we truly get to see if they can deviate from the script.

Another good example is housing - while it's more prettier and is actual housing, there's no furniture effects or way to control who can or cannot enter your private residence, it's either all or none. As for lag on boss fights, that was never truly an issue with the boss fight itself - they changed polling rates but people who lag will always lag, it is out of SE's hands. There's a problem with level3.net that may be up your alley and how you route to their servers but boss fights will still lag for you if you had a problem from the get go.

As you mentioned Wildstar I,too, played it and I can safely say there won't be much difference between the two MMOs except that WS actually does a few things differently and has some legitimate challenge that isn't solely one hit kill mechanics, but it does have the usual "grind the same content" over and over for "new" content. Crafting has its uses but Yoshida is adamant on crafting not being in the lime light in order to maintain "balance."

So whether the game is worth coming back is in your opinion since you'll mostly find biased answers going to a community for the game which is to be expected or they wouldn't be there. I personally say wait until 2.4 when they should be moving towards actually expanding the game, otherwise it's purely up to you, OP.

'Awesome' level in Mario World...yeah we don't speak of that level either.

That happened to us too! A good tank can totally solo the final boss. A great party can obviously beat it without that, though.

I beg to differ - The transition in ARR is done through the Main Story Quests and Guildhests (although I'm of the mindset that these should be incorporated somewhere other than just a page in the Duty Finder and a few random Quests). People are transitioned a long their leveling path unlike WoW where the path from 1-90 could be done without any interaction with other players. And they're transitioned a second time at 50. Hard Primals - Hard Mode Dungeons > T1-5 Coil/Crystal Tower > Extreme Primals T6-9 - Syrcus Tower.

The final boss reminds me of the gargoyle demons in dark souls. So those who beat those would beat the final boss in Stone Vigil without problems I think.