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#27 Jul 08 2014 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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KojiroSoma wrote:
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There is a easier fix for duty roulette dopers.. You loose the reward for duty roulette period if you drop out of a dungeon.. Once in a dungeon you only get the reward once finished and no reque.. It is that easy, why cant SE think of stuff like this.. This would stop it 100 percent.



Edited, Jul 8th 2014 3:17pm by Nashred

Because if you were to get stuck in an absolute fail party that couldnt complete the dungeon, doesnt want to complete the dungeon, trolls the entire way and shouts bloody murder at you just for being on a job they dont want there or that they do not understand, you couldnt leave if you wanted to.

If i want to drop out and eat the 30 minute penalty, it should let me. You shouldnt also have to ***** me out of my daily reward for something that isnt my fault.


Actually yes you should.. Duty roulette is there to help those out who have a hard time or are first timers. If you dont like it stay out of duty roulette.
Its your reward for helping others out.


Edited, Jul 8th 2014 3:45pm by Nashred
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#28 Jul 08 2014 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Nashred wrote:
KojiroSoma wrote:
Nashred wrote:
There is a easier fix for duty roulette dopers.. You loose the reward for duty roulette period if you drop out of a dungeon.. Once in a dungeon you only get the reward once finished and no reque.. It is that easy, why cant SE think of stuff like this.. This would stop it 100 percent.

Because if you were to get stuck in an absolute fail party that couldnt complete the dungeon, doesnt want to complete the dungeon, trolls the entire way and shouts bloody murder at you just for being on a job they dont want there or that they do not understand, you couldnt leave if you wanted to.

If i want to drop out and eat the 30 minute penalty, it should let me. You shouldnt also have to ***** me out of my daily reward for something that isnt my fault.


Actually yes you should.. Duty roulette is there to help those out who have a hard time or are first timers. If you dont like it stay out of duty roulette.
Its your reward for helping others out.


Duty roulette is just an LFG tool that rewards players for completing random dungeons. No where is it ever stated or implied that it's for first time or struggling players. The idea was borrowed from other games that do not penalize players for dropping from a group, no matter what their reason is. XIV should be no different.
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#29 Jul 08 2014 at 7:12 PM Rating: Good
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No where is it ever stated or implied that it's for first time or struggling players.


Actually, first-time players can't use the roulette function.

They have to finish all the content in the roulette at least once first.
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#30 Jul 08 2014 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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As per Yoshi P's words it was designed to allow solo players match up for dungeons quicker, then was given a party feature due to demand (even though other games allowed you to from the get go.)
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#31 Jul 09 2014 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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No where is it ever stated or implied that it's for first time or struggling players.


Actually, first-time players can't use the roulette function.

They have to finish all the content in the roulette at least once first.


You are right but Roulette was developed to reward people to do those earlier dungeons they would not normally do, so new people players or player leveling new jobs could get a party with duty finder.
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#32 Jul 09 2014 at 9:47 AM Rating: Default
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Duo, sounds like you are at peace with who you are. By your own admission, you should also be at peace with the social consequences of your actions.

Which should mean you are at peace with everything here, including how you have shaped other people's perceptions of you.

So... We're all good, then.


Like I said Im merely looking for admission that that IS the case. i.e If more then half the people here said "I rate down all your posts because I dont like you" Then Id KNOW thats the case and wouldnt have to ASSUME that its the case (you know what they say about those who assume). Once I KNOW that thats the case then everytime the red arrow bombing happens I can say "well I know why" and thus wouldnt have to discuss the issue or be shocked when it happens because weve already established that it happens because its me and that Id be perfectly at peace with.
#33 Jul 09 2014 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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I'm rating you (and everyone else) down because of the karma discussion, which is still not a game related issue.
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#34 Jul 09 2014 at 12:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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But then, I suppose those same people can just AFK after the wipe until the 10 minutes is up and hope they simply get kicked before that time.


I have yet to report any players myself, but I overheard someone in my previous FC talking about having gotten banned for this.

He went AFK in a dungeon and was reported for Grief Tactics. He said he was under review for a permanent ban because it was his second offense. The first time he was banned for one week, also for intentional AFK'ing. I do think their was some supporting back-and-forth chat leading up to his AFK that confirmed his intent to grief the party.

Anyway, reporting this intentional AFK nonsense is an option. And apparently not entirely devoid of consequences.


And that rather bothers me. Lately I've encountered a lot of "blame the healers" with groups who are frustrated with their failed strategies in the Syrcus. This group I was with was failing the second fight over and over because the alliance decided they should tank the boss on one of the pads and people should get themselves frozen in the middle of the battlefield, pretty much right in the middle of all that staff AoE (I pointed out this problem, but it fell on deaf ears, so I didn't press it... I had been through the fight successfully a few times times before that and we always tanked in the center and ran the frozen out to the pads).

So after all this mayhem, the summoner who happened to be the leader of the party griped that the healers weren't raising people enough and that's the reason they were losing. I pointed out we were a couple of white mages, and not only do we have MP issues when weakened (a raise costs me almost 800 mp, and that's about the mp I have when raised), but we have to prioritize keeping the living alive. It doesn't help that we got frozen for a minute at a time because not everyone figured out the fireball mechanic. So the summoner said we've got two bards so MP is no excuse (never mind that the bards never once offered to Ballad, but I'm not so rude as to tell people how to do their jobs).

But he started a vote to kick the other healer and the party accepted!

And I'm sure he'd have kicked me too if he wasn't locked out of trying again so soon. So instead he starts broadcasting on Twitch, claiming I'm the one who looks like an idiot for not raising people enough (seriously, the one party support feature of summoners and he wants to gripe about using it) so there's probably some unwarranted name-and-shame video of my character on the internet somewhere.

And apparently, this being kicked can get you banned from the game if you get kicked enough over crap like this. Great.
#35 Jul 09 2014 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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the summoner who happened to be the leader of the party griped that the healers weren't raising people enough and that's the reason they were losing.


I might have pointed out to him that if his entire strategy revolved around rapid-fire battle res'ing people, he might be doing something else wrong.

But then I have a low tolerance for that kind of "leadership."
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#36 Jul 09 2014 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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the summoner who happened to be the leader of the party griped that the healers weren't raising people enough and that's the reason they were losing.


I might have pointed out to him that if his entire strategy revolved around rapid-fire battle res'ing people, he might be doing something else wrong.

But then I have a low tolerance for that kind of "leadership."


Yeah, at least the silver lining is that he'll post it thinking he'll shame me but he's really shaming himself for ignoring my advice and fighting the boss the wrong way, and then turning around and blaming the healers when it didn't work. I always try my best as a healer; I make some mistakes, but nothing so bad on a new fight that I'd be ashamed if anyone saw what I did.
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