Is the information pipeline for this game a bit slow?Follow

That's not saying "majority," but that's an easy misinterpretation to make. My intent is to say that parts of 1.0 were outsourced, and not insignificant amounts (which all of my other posts are much more clear on). I would have been much less casual with my word choice had I known that would be so heavily scrutinized!

Points still stand, though.

And you never answered Filth's question, which is even more valid considering that SE was looking for network engineers who were fluent in Chinese to run the game's JP servers very shortly after the game went live.

Edited, May 16th 2014 12:00pm by Thayos

I actually apologize for jumping on you for calling us conspiracy theorists. You kind of did, but indirectly, and you probably didn't mean it.

That said, I most certainly am backing up my claims. You're completely refusing to look at the simple trail of breadcrumbs that's been laid out before you. Which is fine. I'm very satisfied with all the evidence out there, including the chronology of the game's development, the translation weirdness, the overall quality of 1.0 and the hiring of Chinese-speaking administrators long before the "release" of the Chinese client (not to mention the context of four years ago, with SE building XIV with an undersized crew and trying to push out the game to boost profits quick).

Meanwhile, you STILL haven't answered Filth's question.. and ignoring the question won't make the answer go away.

Edited, May 16th 2014 12:08pm by Thayos

Ugh.. I miss those nice graphics ;-;

Edit: Also the credit music is soothing :)

Edited, May 16th 2014 3:23pm by AlexandEric

Again with the baseless facts. I didnt know speculation and assumptions has become facts lately. Back up all the claims that all these things happened. And I already answered Filth based on the context of his commment. If you don't like the answer it's your problem not mine.

LOL, that's what you call an apology eh, to be more condescending? Wow, I definitely see where Hyaman is coming from now. You're just trying to save face. Good day sir. This is the last you will ever hear from me.

Tanaka was at my house for dinner last night and he told me he hired a bunch of Chinese grad students to compile code on the cheap for him. Then it all went pear shaped he was asked to resign and put in charge of a 13 yr old game where he couldn't possibly botch a launch.

Now we have proof.

So back on topic of OP: notes on 2.3 next week!! I hope there's more to do than farm soldiery and wait for Fates to pop while Titan and Twintaina kill me.

Edited, May 16th 2014 2:30pm by LebargeX

Did you see the news on the OF that they're going to hold off on increasing the echo boost on T5?

I never tried to say the majority of the game was developed in China. The discussion you lifted this sentence from was about XI, not XIV. The fact that XIV was so far behind acceptable(much less standard) added with the fact that part of the game(however large or small) was outsourced doesn't leave any room for XIV's development to be an excuse for abandoning XI development. If XIV launched in 2010 in the shape it's in now, I might have believed that. Instead you got no updates to XI for several years and a new MMO that would take several more years to fix. What were they doing all that time?

You're asking for proof you'll never get. Neither Thayos or myself can tell you for certain how much of the game was outsourced, but it's clear that a large part of it was. You're here saying I claimed it was the majority when I didn't. Yes I said a lot, but if you'd actually seen the patch notes with all of the changes yourself then you probably wouldn't disagree.

Nevermind when the game was released in China. Go look at the patch notes and you'll see why I use terms like 'much of', 'large part of', 'a lot', ect.

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you.

What I mean is that Chinese developers might make that mistake more easily... but not Japanese developers. That's why all the translation errors are so bizarre. There is no logical reason why SE's in-house developers (or any JP developers, for that matter) would code the JP client in Chinese Kanji.... and, not only that, but also abandon the other types of JP language that were so prevalent in all other Final Fantasy titles (but are not shared by the Chinese).

Not to mention:

1.Unfinished, as in not even complete, as in still clearly in development
2. Rushed out to try to beat Cataclysm, which was a corporate decision, not developer decision.
3. Still ended up having some unique traits to it no MMOs even today employ, especially by 1.23.

So yeah it was 'garbage', but it's funny how the only unique aspects of said 'garbage' is what is unique in ARR currently. Like I've said, outsourcing happens in pretty much every company but aside that, at least we know for sure there's a chinese version that materialized now. Heck some of 1.0's development was made with the PS3 in mind, which is why it had a lot of soft zoning, or known as "copy paste".

I know the difference between kana, but both as well as the basic kanji are all referred to as kanji. I didn't go into detail about the difference because it isn't necessary to make the point.

There is a difference, but calling all of them 'kanji' isn't wrong. 馬鳥 is technically shorthand for チョコボ I guess, but they've always used the latter. Just imagine fighting Ifrit, but instead of being called 'Ifrit' it's called 'Firemonster'

That's not Ifrit, that's his weak *** Egi. I still hope SE reconsiders the design for those terrible things.