Why is the RNG -ALWAYS- stacked against the player?Follow

That percentage success rate you are seeing is before your gear stats are applied.

So your 90% is 90% of not-very-likely.

Better gear will give you 90% of probably, which is still less than 90% but closer. Make sense?

I played D&D back in the day and I still have a d100. I could roll it 100 times and tell you how many times I get back-to-back 1-20 or 80-100 if you want.

Funny thing about Computer RNGs is that sometimes they don't work very well, depends on how well they were coded. And, as someone mentioned above, apparently there _are_ hidden variables the UI does not tell you and 70% is not really 70%, its 70% before gear/level/god knows what else modifiers. Assuming what they said above is true.

Anyways, I did eventually get a good streak of *weird* RNG, which is making me wonder about the seeds SE is using in FFXIV: Doing Elm Lumber.

15% chance for HQ.

3 in a row, then the next tree, 2 in a row.

Then tree after that, 4 failures in a row (92% chance to succeed).

I'm thinking they have bad seeds, like they did in Warframe.

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/128402-rng-algorithm-bugschanges/

This thread was posted on Warframe Forums and it details the fact that sometimes RNG is horribly coded and sometimes can be buggy. In Warframe sometimes you'd get duplicate items several times in a row, and then the next time you do a mission, you'd get another item several times in a row, etc. The thread explains why.

I'm wondering if something similar isn't happening in FFXIV after what I've seen.

I mean come on.... 4x 8% in a row right after 3x 15% and then 2x 15% back to back? Something definitely looks wonky.


Edited, Mar 21st 2014 9:29pm by Lyrailis

You'll get the numbers on the equator of the die more often than the poles due to the design flaw in a zocchihedron.

the problem is, you can never make a truly random system. the hit or miss is simply a calculation based on the clock time, and probably other things. doing 6 crafts to 50 and all 3 gathering classes to 50, your going to scratch your head going WTF a lot.

I've had times where with a 93% chance to hit a node while gathering, I miss 5 times. Not just once, but multiple times. If you calculated the probability on that, I should never see that happen...especially not multiple times within the span of an hour. I've also had times where I had some very good luck. With a 15% chance to get a HQ item out of the node I've gotten perfect 5/5 HQ items without using any skills. It feels like it's rarer to see that then misses, but that's probably because I get pissed off when I miss a ridiculous amount of times.

Without knowing how their random number generator calculates numbers I couldn't tell you how fair it really is. All I can say is to keep at it. When crafting gear up using HQ gear and use control boosting food. with HQ materials (assuming you can gather your own stuff) making HQ items is very easy. IF your not using HQ materials, its much harder.

Edited, Mar 22nd 2014 2:25am by Keysofgaruda

Yeah, I'm going to keep at it.

I'm not going to quit the game or anything drastic, it is just when I originally started this thread, I hadn't seen such a weird string of RNG. Now that I've seen several strings of RNG and I highly suspect the code to be flawed (similar to the Warframe thread I linked a few posts ago), I can at least expect weird strings of "WTF?" and at least now that I know that once you get more crafts leveled you can use enough abilities to damn near guarantee HQs, well..

It isn't so bad, I just wish they'd fix the RNG. Hopefully they do if enough players point out the weirdness.

I agree, the RNG in this game is ****** up something fierce, but random is random. SE's math is kind of odd because no matter how random something is, if you have a 97% success rate to strike a node for example, you should never miss 4-5 times in a row.

Ever.