Glamours system requires level 50Follow

Uh, if that's what Yoshi himself said, then that's what he said. There's no "theonehioan" language here.

And besides, EQ is an old grindfest that had its spotlight back then. WoW is the current thing now, and even it is evolving.

Even FFXI, the game starts at End Game, because what can you really do before you get Lv99 and get to Adoulin?

Right.....pretty much nothing other than XP up.

Even before SoA, what could you really do before Lv75 before Abyssea came? You could.......right, get up to Lv75 first before doing anything. Everything you were meant to do was for either getting Lv75, or getting the stuff you needed TO get Lv75 (money, equipment, spells, etc). But Lv75 is the first and foremost goal you had, from the very start. And FFXI is hardly a WoW Clone, especially not back during Pre-Abyssea days (esp. since yanno, FFXI came before WoW?)

If you really think there was nothing to do in XI on the way to level cap, you were doinitwrong. Side-quests, outpost supply quests, garrison, expeditionary force, BCNM, missions to advance the story, crafting/gathering/fishing/gardening/farming, escort quests, NM camps, chocobo racing, raising your own chocobo, furnishing your moghouse... that's already a big list of 'nothing to do until endgame' and I haven't even warmed up yet.

I would also point out that despite that game being over a decade old, the new features they are adding also allow newer players to participate. It took me over a year before I got my first level 75 character. I'm bored to tears in XIV which allowed me to obtain that in a matter of days to 'unlock' content, yet I could find things to do to fill the months of time I spent below the level cap in FFXI...

I don't understand why there's all this bickering about these minor details of the Glamor system when you're overlooking the much bigger threat, so vile I have to put it in spoiler tags so you don't accidentally burn it into your brain just imagining it.

SpoilerTHE GUYS IN SUBLIGAR APOCALYPSE!

Once seen, it cannot be unseen.

Eh, okay, let's look at your examples...



Most of which give almost no reward, or are balls-hard that you'll want to levelup first. Why sure, I'd love to go into an area with Lv50 hostile mobs for 2,000gil. Right. Or spend 30 minutes running out to W.Sartabarta for 100gil postage letters.



People do these? Last I checked, sometimes they items they want are... not reasonable to procure without blowing lots of gil. If you really really wanted your nation to control an area, you'd go kill junk in the area with Signet on.



I think I did this once. IIRC, the mobs were quite overpowered for the level restriction they place on you (they expect at least 6 people for this IIRC? Or maybe it was 12+?) and I remember the reward not being very good at all.



I've never seen a single person ever doing EF. I've never done one myself, nor have I ever needed to.



That's mainly for gil or equipment, again, a step on the way to max level.



Mainly Rank5 for the Airship Pass but then even that isn't needed now, what with the Homepoint teleports. And you'd be better off waiting until max level; it'd be a much more smoother experience.



99% of which involves either making money, or equipment, to get up to max level. Or if you ARE max level, well, yeah, that's "Endgame".



Not familiar with this. I think I saw an Escort NPC in Crawlers' Nest a few times. Nobody is ever escorting her, and she gets killed in the Scorpion Room every time I see her.



Equipment/money for getting to endgame, just like crafting/farming/whatnot.



People do this? I suppose, if you want.



Some of the better end greens and such are quite expensive... how are you going to be doing this without having a decent gil income, first?



Which is.........very incredibly expensive or craft-intensive and best done at.... yes......Endgame, when you have the means to acquire the stuff you'll need to do so.

[quote]that's already a big list of 'nothing to do until endgame' and I haven't even warmed up yet.[/quote]

The "Big List" was... yes, things that are either better done at Endgame, or things on the way To Endgame. They all point towards the goal of getting to Endgame, with the exception of Chocobo Racing and Chocobo Raising.

What exactly are you going to be wearing Pre-50 that you want to keep the look of?

If FFXIV is anything like most MMORPGs, only the armor near the end looks anything more than "OK". And like others have said... you're not going to be wearing it very long. At endgame, however, you'll be wearing that stuff for weeks and months. If you don't like the look of it, well, THEN you've reason to want to change it.

And as someone said, other than the stupid platekinis that people are running around with, there's hardly any decent transmog gear in WoW until Lv60 (which what the original endgame was).

If Transmog had existed in WoW during Vanilla, I wouldn't be surprised if it were limited to Lv60 either.

Edited, Mar 20th 2014 6:30pm by Lyrailis

What's the benefit of it being a level 50 feature instead of a level 1? None. It's not combat related whatsoever and it doesn't affect your strength. It's purely cosmetic and should be available to everyone.

What's the benefit of it having no restrictions? New players can use it. There's really no discussion to be had here. There's no reason for the Glamour system to be restricted to level 50 players.

Edited, Mar 20th 2014 6:35pm by LucasNox

My title is purely informational. I gave my opinions within the thread. I think I already knew that Glamour worked on weapons.

If they just chat and dress up, why would they need stats on their gear? If you don't have the gear and can't equip it, why should you be able to use it's appearance? This won't change anything at all for those who just want to play dress up.

Oh for the love of all that is squishy... End this thread please... Pointless argument is pointless argument.

Like it or Leave it... Or else GO COMPLAIN ON THE OFFICIAL GAME FORUMS.

And for the rest of the community, please good people don't feed the trolls. (And stay off the grass!)

Bravo.

The implicit love for anything EQ clone and the implicit hatred for anything WoW clone is what defines theonehioan language.