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If that makes me a ****, then I'm a **** and proud.

Sorry, but I don't play this game to entertain princesses with unreasonable requests. Again, they can deal with a measly 5 seconds of pacification by learning to use that time to do other things, like I had to when I leveled my own WAR.

Edited, Jan 21st 2014 11:05pm by Fynlar

You mean this guy?

Apology accepted.

If someone used that on me, I'd write up a macro with an annoying bell sound to remind the tank to cancel Regen before every pull, and see how they liked it.

All things considered, they need to change regen agro....its re-donk-ulous

Im not saying it doesnt have uses, just that its agro is way way way to high for the amount its healing (or not healing).

If you are at 100% hp regen should give no agro to the whm. Otherwise why not agro that adloq or protect or stoneskin are up on pull?

It was a long time to read all posts here, but at the end, I think we go to the old, good to know thing, that: if you pug, you will be paired with everything. Every-"thing". Usually I will expect the worse, and if it goes better, I'm happy.

End-game pugs always had, sooner or later, bad outcomings, I don't think this game will make exceptions. I hope to reach endgame soon, so I can have my part of kicks to share with you

Then, I read on patch notes, vote-kick has been tweaked. If some endgame pugging player can tell how is it now, will be nice to know

Yeah, I must have missed this, but it seems like I can practically one shot these skeletons with a fire spell on my BLM.

AoE is not the reason that BLM is an inferior job for the fight. If you didn't notice, I didn't even mention AoE. Dunno why you are.

Ok, fine, I did mention it, just not in the bit quoted. But that still isn't what makes BLM difficult there. Line of sight issues + casting time along with having to drag the mobs around does. My experience with BLM in this fight involved a whole lot of fizzling spells trying to grab/nuke the lessers off the healer. I still don't know why they changed that from FFXI (being able to cast on stuff facing in any direction), IMO it's still one of the worst changes they made from that game to this one.

That's not to say people can't make it work, just that other jobs will do it far better and more efficiently. Particularly BRD, which is also advantaged on both the other bosses in the zone due to their high emphasis on moving away from the boss to avoid things, which is especially important for the last boss due to it being basically a DPS race. I've seen instances where even a couple of well geared relic melee have trouble winning the fight simply due to the fact they need to run from AoE so often and cannot output the necessary damage as a result.

You can cast stuff facing any direction. Turn on "face target when using an ability", and have Legacy Controls set so the camera doesn't snap around.

Dodging AoE is more of a challenge with casting time. That said, the casting time is offset by higher damage. After you time the AoE dodges correctly with your casts, you can expect damage to be higher or at least equal to Bard. It's similar to the balance between melee DPS and ranged. Melee requires more dodging but has a potential for more overall damage.

Having seen players from all jobs absolutely crush the other DPS in any given party, it's clear that players experience and skill (and gear) counts for more than their choice of job.

Yeah, I hate getting interrupted due to line of sight. Happens most often in Turn 4 of BC in the last phase when I have to pick up the second soldier and kite it in a big circle. Try using Scathe to grab aggro. It works surprisingly well and is instant cast (well, almost instant)



I would think that would be more of an issue with meele on the second boss, but really, once you get the hang of the timing on the rotations, the blm role is not too difficult to play on that map, imo. I've tried bard after blm and I wave to say... wow mobility! But I can imagine once moving from bard to black mage would be highly frustrated at the cast times.

Edited, Jan 24th 2014 3:13pm by Valkayree

Somewhat related, but for any online game I've played, the "couple" I've dreaded more than anything. One or both is always a "needed" job, and most of the time are quite pushy, and quick to leave at a moments notice.

Not all are like that, but it is a pattern I've noted over the years.

Edited, Jan 27th 2014 2:47pm by TwilightSkye