Do players still have a voice in the direction of FFIXV?Follow

I think the King Mog weapons sorta fill that gap, being ilvl 75. Plus King Mog is more about execution than raw gear, although raw gear still helps of course. But if you can beat Garuda with the gear and skill you have, then you can beat King Mog.

I think some are perhaps looking at CT in the wrong way.

CT is actually pretty nice for people just hitting 50 now or will be hitting it within the next couple of months. It was never intended to gear your main job and may not even be intended for your alternative jobs assuming you play a lot.

What CT did was bridge the gap between DL gear and myth/Allagan along with the increase to the myth cap. It's just like they did with adding the Ultima fight and GKMM this patch. There was no real bridge between Garuda HM and Titan HM and it really showed. I feel like Ultima is a very nice stepping stone between Garuda and Titan now.

On my main character, I look at CT as a way to gear alt alt alt jobs since I now spend a majority of mythology and lotting rights on myth and Allagan for my healer. However, on my other character that I just created, CT looks incredible because it will make me perform better in BC than if I just got it to 50 and geared it with DL. When I hit 50, I will have a few more options open to me than simply, "Get all DL and pray to the Allagan gods while farming mythology each week."

CT was just one thing they added to make the bridge smaller. Decreasing materials for certain recipes also made crafting gear a very viable go-between for those who didn't craft prior to the patch because it's more affordable due to the increased philosophy gain. The same with materia as well. It was much better for me to stick with certain pieces of my crafted gear, even on my healer, than use the DL (or even CT) equivalent.

I believe this is actually what some of you are speaking of above. They changed leveling because they wish to accommodate for new players. Think about what would happen to FATEs in the long run. As the majority of the population either levels all their classes to 50 through FATEs or levels the only classes they want to play to 50, FATE parties would start to die and the main way we had to level would die with it. So I see their attempt to alter exp routes as a way to curb a potential problem that might appear in the future.

Basically, I see them strengthening the game's foundation so that it receives new players a bit better. It was the primary focus of this patch. This is especially important considering the PS4's release date!

Edited, Jan 13th 2014 6:29am by HitomeOfBismarck

WHM AF "pants" (the culottes) with the CT robe create a very scandalous look. It's awesome.

They use low quality textures pretty much standard for everything. Only they think (and mentioned so) that we dont notice it at all.

However, simply having a closer look at anything reveals their deception. Just look around in Limsa, even on the highest settings, the stone you walk on, the walls, even your own armors are pixilated and terrible looking in comparison to 1.0.

While i understand a lot of people couldnt play 1.0 on max settings three years ago, times have changed and there's no reason why we wouldnt be allowed to use HD textures instead.

Well, i say no reason, but there is one reason ofcourse. This incarnation of the game and it's engine wasnt made for it, and the textures simply are the blurry pixilated mess that they are on purpose. Not too long ago i realized that FFXI on 4000 x 4000 as a background resolution looked the same if not better :/

Texture resolution was reduced because it slows the ability to render mobs and players. If you entered a highly populated area, it would take ages to render all of the characters and some wouldn't render at all. They had this issue even with the lower res textures in FATEs where some players weren't able to see large mobs. Lower resolution textures were used as a compromise so that PS3 players and others with low to mid-range hardware PCs could still enjoy the game.

At that point I think it becomes a space concern. Having twice as many texture files means twice as much texture data has to be stored.

That's the same reason we don't have full voice acting. They have the game in four spoken languages - that's four times the voice data. Even at MP3 compression of a meg a minute, the voices in the game as they are already take up a gigabyte of data. Fully voicing all the main storyline cutscenes would have tripled or quadrupled that.

SWTOR was fully voiced, but in how many languages?

It's PC limitations as well. The necessary hardware to run the game at the previous settings was far too high for most people and the performance was still too low.

They don't allow you to choose between high and low res textures, but PC players are afforded the benefit of being able to render more characters. The idea is that the port be as close as possible to the PC version. Console players don't want to feel like they're playing a watered-down version and PC players don't want to feel like they need a 4000 dollar rig to run the game.

Yeah, higher res textures and DX11 were promised around PS4 launch. Whether or not that's on schedule, who knows. I know my PC couldn't handle 'em, but there's also a part of me that wonders how some believe the current game is ugly because of what's present now.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again... there aren't PS3 limitations for FFXIV in the same way there were PS2 limitations for FFXI.

Design decisions for ARR were made from the get-go to ensure the game would always be playable on the PS3, yet OPTIMAL for the PC (and PS4). This includes decisions like having zone instead of a huge, endless map (which is what 1.0 had). Some people may view this as a "limitation," and it kind of is... but the decision was made to fully embrace the benefits of having zones, and the game was properly/thoroughly built upon that concept. The graphics are also a great example of what I'm talking about... graphically, any encounter is playable on a PS3, and that will be true from now until years and years later... but the game wasn't designed to be OPTIMAL on a ps3, as FFXI was designed to be optimal on a ps2... rather, FFXIV's graphics are optimal on a PC. And, to take that a step further, the unique graphics engine for ARR is scalable, meaning that while the game will remain playable for a PS3, the graphics ceiling could someday be heightened for the PC and PS4 versions.

The big difference is SE never planned for the PS2 limitations of FFXI, so the limitations eventually became much more jarring in the development of the game. With ARR, SE seems to have considered the limitations ahead of time, and, for the most part, they simply made design decisions that make those limitations moot.

You are so correct. I have seen everything you said and more.. I play pc and Tes plays ps3 right next too me. CT has really shown what the ps3 cant do.. Animation locks, bosses not showing up for the first 20 percent of the fight. Mobs not showing up period in fates.. A couple of days ago there was someone doing botany next to us. He would swing his hatchet and would hear it and then hear it on Tesses ps3 after, the sound didn't even over lap it was clearly after, this is when I relised how bad it was.. Went to fight odin the other day, never showed up on the ps3.

I dont care what anyone says as long as the ps3 is part of the equation it will affect design decision for the pc too.. The ps3 is stressed to the max to even run the game as it is. Its limitations are going to force decisions not to do somethings because the ps3 wont be able to handle it period in the future. There is now way it wont. Also how well the game does will affect it even more. If the game is not as successful as hoped SE wont have the money to develop the two independently..

Example lets say for the next add on to CT they want to have more mobs to increase difficulty.. Guess what they cant because of the ps3, because it cant display more mobs so that will affect their decision to add more mobs, that is a hold back no matter how you spin it... Unless they decide to lock out ps3 users which they wont.


What amazes me is so many ps3 people are such good players, they have to be to overcome the lag and other issues. Allot have over come it..

It does not really affect Tesee's playing at all.. They learn to adjust I guess, She really only complains about CT being to laggy sometimes.

The thing is ps3 users dont always know what they are missing because they cant see it. Unless you sit side by side with one you cant really know how bad it is.

I dont mean to offend ps3 users either, I started out as one and my girlfriend plays on it..

Edited, Jan 22nd 2014 10:51am by Nashred

The "PS3 limitations" assumptions are based on an unrealistic scenario where SE were to spend more money on a PC exclusive version of the game while gaining less revenue due to the lack of PS3 subs.

Lack of money to develop the game will always be a greater hindrance than the limitations PS3 brings to the table.

Yep... already have 3 DL pieces for my MNK and it's only level 21 PGL lol.