Housing PricesFollow

I don't foresee personal housing being anywhere near this. This is meant for group housing, so it makes sense that the price is something you would need to work together as a group to achieve.

But at the same time, holy crap that's a lot of gil.

I realize this is a shock to some, but the format they've chosen to sell the land isn't without precedent. It's primarily called a Dutch auction, and the prices are supposed to be at a near-impossible, definitely illogical level to start.

SE played a cruel, but intelligent card here. They don't want people rushing to buy houses before they have the ability to expand the instance clusters required to have more than one copy of the servers at a time. That's why they are gagued based on server wealth. It's also why personal housing is six to eight months down the road.

So the supply of the actual space is very low. Therefore the initial cost of them will be exorbitant, and the cost declining as the development crew are given more time to prepare the server structure for more.

Do I like the fact that a large home is far beyond what we will be able to achieve any time soon in the free company I am in? No. But we'll work at it. And it's nice to have a long-term goal to achieve.

New worlds started ARR with zero gil accumulated in August 2013. Legacy worlds started ARR with almost three years worth of gil accumulated / 100.

Yes, it is not as large of a sum compared to if they didn't divide the amount by 100. No, it is still considerably more than zero gil.

I'm on a legacy server and was able to accumulate 1 mil by constant selling and crafting. The smallest plot is 8 million. Only the craziest of hoarders from 1.0 on my server can buy a plot.


Mostly, I'm bummed because this was supposed to give a boost to crafters, which is relatively useless right now. But... now that the 9 people who buy a house on my server will be absolutely broke, I don't think I'll be pulling out my hammer just yet.

There's an irony here...

Most people who really care about their FCs and are excited about FC housing (over individual housing) probably belong to small, tight-knit FC that can't afford these huge costs.

Meanwhile, people in the FCs where you have just 10 of 200 members online at any given time probably don't really care... but those FCs are the ones that could actually afford housing now.

Go figure.

We still need to understand how this new patch is going to introduce more money from the system. I was of the impression that from the 17th all dungeons mobs will drop gil.




Edited, Dec 15th 2013 2:09pm by Sonsora

No irony here. What better way for casuals to have endgame without spamming traditional endgame raids than having a club house that everyone can work towards contributing materials, gil,etc?

Maybe a bit lower than 250mil, but shouldn't be too easy or the content get consumed fast.

Edited, Dec 15th 2013 1:38pm by sandpark

It'll be exceptionally sad to watch if (when) in reality many FC's can afford these costs and we'll see most low-end plots being bought in less than a month from 2.1 release, just to hear the poor folks claim that it's all bought with RMT gil.

The reason for it being obviously that SE can't keep the /tell bots in check even though they've managed to hold back the gil supply (the part of RMT activity that matters) rather successfully.

If no FCs are buying houses from day one I'll gladly admit I was wrong.

The cost of this is beyond ridiculous. Anyone who says differently is well. You know

I am so disappointed with this outcome. I guess the only thing to do now is jump on the gear treadmill since housing is obviously not an option.

I just don't get it. So disappointed

Those that are disappointed about the costs should like this post in the official forums (currently at 1650):

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/127458-%E5%9C%9F%E5%9C%B0%E3%81%AE%E5%80%A4%E6%AE%B5%E3%81%8C%E9%AB%98%E3%81%99%E3%81%8E%E3%81%BE%E3%81%99

Translation:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/127913-It-appears-Japanese-players-are-in-agreement

If this is the "solution", then it's clearly a game design flaw. You shouldn't alienate players simply because they wanted to play on a server where they might know people, or on a server where they feel they can get help instantly, or somewhere they just want to play. And no, people weren't "warned of the consequences". In fact, a lot of people here on ZAM were encouraging new players to start on legacy servers so they could get help with anything they needed instantly, or just to play with other players from this community who were staying legacy. And that should be completely acceptable if that's where people want to play.



Wow, you have a very inconsistent view on the community. First off, some people are always going to complain no matter what. That's just life. However, you make it out like the tiny minority of people complaining about not being able to beat Twintania (which was far less than 1% of the gaming community) is somehow comparable to housing, where there has been a massive outcry on every forum from pretty much all ranges of the playerbase except the crazy-rich that these prices are insane. There's a pretty distinct difference. And I don't understand how you think extremely casual players are participating in this content at all. Unless you are somehow considering farming gil for an FC house for months on end as "participating in content". This has done the exact opposite of creating more content for players, it's excluded all but the most hardcore and the richest on EVERY server.

Our FC has over 100 players in it and the realistic truth is that even if we had half of those players contributing what they could on a weekly basis, it would take us months to get even the smallest FC house... which is kind of pointless for a group our size. Our average contributions from players are 5-10k, and to a lot of people that's a decent chunk of gil. So no, I don't see this as something even the moderate players will be enjoying for a very long time, and that's why I am extremely disappointed in it.

This would have been the best way. Land gets deeded to to your FC by you allied GC in a feudal type arrangement. The plot of land gets bigger as your FC ranks up. Hell, they could have even added a tithe system if they wanted it to be a gil sink.

If they had used FC points, the size of your house would actually correspond to your FC's achievements in the game.

Would have given people incentive to work on in-game achievements too.

I guess that just makes too much sense. Maybe someone can point out the drawback to having done it this way?