Honest question, one that has been on my mind for a bit now.
I myself have got two battle jobs at 50, along with three lv.50 crafting jobs, and a Miner at 50 to supply those with essentially "free" ore, but after struggling for months i've only just barely broke the 400k barrier in the last week... And even that i imagine is only because i now gather my own materials without exceptions.
Granted i am perhaps not very inclined to actively make stuff to sell on the markets, and dont actually work the numbers on the board for the absolute maximum profits each and every day, far from it, but i do try and sell some things occasionally. By all intends and purposes, i dont feel i'm doing terrible, nor very good.
I know my server is a non-legacy server (Behemoth), and that there's probably not an immense amount of gil in circulation, but still.
Not asking for blatent bragging or anything of the sorts. Certainly not implying or suggesting that gil means anything in this game. But what should an average player such as myself with a little bit of everything at 50 have as far as gil goes?
Following that, what would you feel that people with nothing but battle jobs have in their account?
And, what would people with nothing but crafting jobs have in their account in your eyes?
Just trying to draw a comparison if i should step up my game or am doing quite well for myself.
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Since launch I have just cleared 300k gil. I have a lvl 50 fisher, 42 pld, 36 drg, 34 smn, and just started miner which is now 16. I've only spent about 10k of that on various pieces of gear. Outside from small purchases, such as dye off the npc, I have not spent any money. A handful of teleports here and there, but not much.
I would have considerably less if I did not sell fish. I sold almost everything caught from 1-50 and know about a handful which I probably fish to generate consistant gil, but not a whole lot, probably enough to cover repair costs for all my jobs, but not not much more.
I certainly don't have enough, or project having enough to spend gil frivolously on the market. My current plan is to finish off miner, then botanist to become a self sufficient crafter. I'm hoping by then I will have learned enough to make sustainable gil to keep me going.
I would have considerably less if I did not sell fish. I sold almost everything caught from 1-50 and know about a handful which I probably fish to generate consistant gil, but not a whole lot, probably enough to cover repair costs for all my jobs, but not not much more.
I certainly don't have enough, or project having enough to spend gil frivolously on the market. My current plan is to finish off miner, then botanist to become a self sufficient crafter. I'm hoping by then I will have learned enough to make sustainable gil to keep me going.
I make about 100k a night, but I have DoL all 50, and all crafters 50.
1) Harvest electrum + gem of choice
2) use Gold crafting to make full set of level 49 jewlery hq
3) sprit bind it in 3 ak runs and convert to materia
Profits range from 30k-150k a night, so 100k average. Helps if you can get away with using the +1 spirit bind head
1) Harvest electrum + gem of choice
2) use Gold crafting to make full set of level 49 jewlery hq
3) sprit bind it in 3 ak runs and convert to materia
Profits range from 30k-150k a night, so 100k average. Helps if you can get away with using the +1 spirit bind head
I have around 250k. Was making gil, but then realized I should just level and not worry about it (only lv 44atm).
I have 230k, one 50 PLD and 50 fisher, I think I have made more money getting botanist to 20 than I did getting fisher to 50 :(. guess I'm pretty poor though.
Don't feel bad, I've broken 100k only a handful of times... I usually spend it as soon as I break 100k for some reason... I have 4 jobs at 50 now, miner, leathworker, armorer and goldsmith... but I wind up spending my gil gearing up for those...
It's becoming easier as I level more crafting jobs because I can craft the HQ gear myself and don't need to spend gil on that... but still, building up the gear for that many level 50 jobs will not be easy on the wallet, you are doing fine...
Besides, without personal housing what are we going to really spend our gil on anyways? 100k is fine, 400k is even better lol.
It's becoming easier as I level more crafting jobs because I can craft the HQ gear myself and don't need to spend gil on that... but still, building up the gear for that many level 50 jobs will not be easy on the wallet, you are doing fine...
Besides, without personal housing what are we going to really spend our gil on anyways? 100k is fine, 400k is even better lol.
I think I'm sitting at about 600k now, but I'm leveling Weaver so it may take a bit of a hit. I'm at a stage now where I can make almost anything I need so gil is getting relative, I'll probably start using it to buy coke and such for 2 star items soon.
I have bot/min/fsh at 41, crp/alc at 50, all other crafts 41-46, whm 45.
I have just under 500k on me, and at last count around 150k in gold bags on my retainer. I NEVER cash them in lol. I rarely, if ever make something just to sell it, nor do I ever farm stuff just to sell it. I farm what I think I'll need to level up my crafting (i.e. Boar Skins) and then sell half of what's left, and keep the other half of the remainder for later. I have never sold a single item for more than 25k (which to my great surprise was a dungeon drop). I would hazard to guess the great majority of my funds come from leves. I don't really keep track.
I rarely, if ever, buy crafting mats or shards. I've been stockpiling cash so that I can buy materia for my gears. I had it all planned out then Meat had to link that post about Patrician's gear and now I don't know WHAT I'm going to do lol.
I have just under 500k on me, and at last count around 150k in gold bags on my retainer. I NEVER cash them in lol. I rarely, if ever make something just to sell it, nor do I ever farm stuff just to sell it. I farm what I think I'll need to level up my crafting (i.e. Boar Skins) and then sell half of what's left, and keep the other half of the remainder for later. I have never sold a single item for more than 25k (which to my great surprise was a dungeon drop). I would hazard to guess the great majority of my funds come from leves. I don't really keep track.
I rarely, if ever, buy crafting mats or shards. I've been stockpiling cash so that I can buy materia for my gears. I had it all planned out then Meat had to link that post about Patrician's gear and now I don't know WHAT I'm going to do lol.
I have 100K on hand, mostly earned from fishing. It could be a lot more if I really wanted to, but I have limited play time and I'm trying to get my conjurer up to proper levels now.
Edited, Nov 14th 2013 9:53am by Catwho
Edited, Nov 14th 2013 9:53am by Catwho
This is an impossible question to answer.
It all depends on what you do with your money. Ive easily had 10mil, but ive purchased gear and used a lot for crafting. On me now i have 300k but that doesnt really bother me. i could make some gill crafting or selling philosophy items, but gil is practically useless at least in my eyes. Might be a good idea though to save some because you never know what is going to happen in the future.
It all depends on what you do with your money. Ive easily had 10mil, but ive purchased gear and used a lot for crafting. On me now i have 300k but that doesnt really bother me. i could make some gill crafting or selling philosophy items, but gil is practically useless at least in my eyes. Might be a good idea though to save some because you never know what is going to happen in the future.
I'm currently at 340k, but I've been as high as 750k. I've probably made 3.5 million over the course of game and spent about 3.2 million. I am not gathering focused, I battle and craft, so I buy most of my stuff out of the auction house, including shards. But I usually turn that into a small profit while I'm leveling or after I hit 50, build up my gear and roatation, and start hq'ing level 49 - 2 star items. Leves have made me a surprisingly large amount of money through the rewards on the triple turn ins (12 boar skins per turn in? or 48 shards per turn in?), as well as simply running through all of the level 1-10 crafting story quests for each job. The shard rewards are amazing and can save you a lot of money. Also, when you hit that 10% shot on converting that level 50 crafted item, or that 100% shot on converting that lvl 70 crafted item and you get a materia IV (assuming it isnt ice or something unsellable) you can make upwards of 200 - 300k easily. Even some of the III materias go for 30 - 50k, at least on Ultros server.
Goodness, I've been through millions of gil at this point when you factor in materia buying, craft item purchashing, and the like. I'm at 90k at the moment, but it fluctuates wildly because I use it as soon as I spend it a lot of the time.
Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.
We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.
Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.
We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.
Satisiun wrote:
Goodness, I've been through millions of gil at this point when you factor in materia buying, craft item purchashing, and the like. I'm at 90k at the moment, but it fluctuates wildly because I use it as soon as I spend it a lot of the time.
Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.
We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.
Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.
We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.
Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?
I've only broken 300k, but I have just started working on leveling Crafting/Gathering jobs, I've been able to work the market place with some success, made about 100k in a few days just buying and selling, but most of my gill just came from leveling.
If you want to work the market, sell through the week, buy at the weekends.
Sitting at roughly 80k as a level 37 conjurer with all my DoL's sitting around the 12-14 level area.
I feel that fairly pretty as of now. Not really buying too much and selling what I feel I don't need.
Applying real world economic theories in the server economy can help.
I feel that fairly pretty as of now. Not really buying too much and selling what I feel I don't need.
Applying real world economic theories in the server economy can help.
LebargeX wrote:
Satisiun wrote:
Goodness, I've been through millions of gil at this point when you factor in materia buying, craft item purchashing, and the like. I'm at 90k at the moment, but it fluctuates wildly because I use it as soon as I spend it a lot of the time.
Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.
We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.
Not like it's a secret or anything, but I generally make my money off materia farming, along with 4 other friends. Since I have every craft and gathering job at 50, I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.
We've made as much as two million in one run, and as little as 800k in another. So it can be really luck-based. Still, it's a fun thing to do with friends if you have the materials and crafters to do it (GSM, LTH, ARM), plus you get to level your chocobos along the way while killing stuff.
Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?
I was thinking about doing this myself while farming with my chocobo, just wear some +Spiritbonding gear (rings + hat) and then switch out some of my armor for crafting gear that I want to spirit bond...
Haven't tried it out yet, I'd definitely be interested to see what people actually do with this method.
Satisiun wrote:
I make five sets of militia gear (iLvl 55) for us all, socket trash materia to it to speed up the spiritbond process, and then we thrash enemies in some of the beastmen/Garlean camps until they bond. They've got something like a 20% chance of converting to Tier IV materia, and even if they don't many Tier III sell for a great price.
Thank you, kind sir, for not being one of the asshats that sit on top of posts in the Mines of the Ceruleum Processing Plant and blast things with your relic weapon so that no one who is actually trying to level up from 42-50 can get any hits to gain their levels. Your focus on beastmen and Garlean camps is to be commended.
LebargeX wrote:
Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?
Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3
) Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree
I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.
SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.
This is pretty much the same thing I had planned to do. I'm glad to hear it works for you :)
Do you use aetherite rings or any +bonding gear?
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?
Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3
) Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree
I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?
Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3
) Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree
I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.
And vice versa, you can craft with battle gear on and level those as well, but the negative effect there is much more pronounced.
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Valkayree wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Am I misunderstanding, or are you saying you're wearing crafting gear to kill stuff?
Thats what they do yes, but lately there has been a sick trend of 10 to 12 of them sitting on top of posts in the mines in the Ceruleum Processing Plant, offing mobs with their relics before any of the people trying to level 42-50 can get any hits. It has been an absolute pain to level gladiator (paladin) because my flash does not give me enough credit to gain exp, I actually have to claim the target or do enough damage to register. I have to rely on my fate party to do it, and most often even eight of us are not fast enough to target and damage when relics are busting the mobs before they even appear on my screen (thanks PS3
) Edited, Nov 14th 2013 10:15am by Valkayree
I had no idea you could kill stuff in crafting gear and get bond. I was under the impression you had to craft something.
And vice versa, you can craft with battle gear on and level those as well, but the negative effect there is much more pronounced.
Dude... you seriously just made my day :D
LebargeX wrote:
SkinwalkerAsura wrote:
I'm sitting at 500k ATM. Doing some quick mental math I've made about 2 mil since launch. I have 5 DoH at 50 (BSM, ARM, WVR, GSM and CPR) and I do make items to sell daily, HQ tools being the best sellers. I've been working on grinding out crafting materia. My method has been to craft myself a set of HQ Patrician's and Militia gear and bang out stacks of cobalt ingots. No luck with Tier IVs yet, but I do have a load of Tier IIIs.
This is pretty much the same thing I had planned to do. I'm glad to hear it works for you :)
Do you use aetherite rings or any +bonding gear?
Aetheryte rings are hq 5k roughly and are level 50 crafted + give +1 spiritbonding. No reason not to use them. Go further and wear your gamblers crown for another +1. Milita Bracelets are nice as well for another 50 crafted (chance at a IV materia), but those are a bit more expensive.
My mind is just spinning with the possibilities lol
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