SQ is adding invincibility after raise in 2.1!Follow

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/104074-Please-Fix-the-Raise-Animation%21?p=1413252&viewfull=1#post1413252

Well so not only are they making the HMs easier they are making raising easier, and CT isn't even harder than Coil, sucks they are making it easier but have no harder content to replace it.

Oh well grats Titan will be much easier now, just accept raise whenever.

I don't really know why are you complaining to this fix? For me as a healer this is a needed fix because most of the time raise/ressurect in battle become useless with so many wide raid damage.

At least with this fix healer doesn't have to use the raise + removing death debuff = death debuff / ress sickness stick.

A fantastic and very much needed fix. Why we need to wait until 2.1 instead of simply adding this to the current hotfix scheduled for this week is another matter.

Invince should wear off a few seconds after getting up. I lost count how many times I've died after being rez'd due to aoe targeted on my body during res animation. Or watched other DD's also suffer the same fate after I swiftcast res them on my SMN(therefor wasting my swiftcast on it).

Yeah, part of the issue is the timing of awareness lost being moved and subsequently revived. It's both a pro and con and I always wonder why a MMO has yet to make it a choice option for the recipient. Oh well, minimizing deaths when you've lost control of yourself is A-OK by me. Just hope they take a look at LB lock next.

Edited, Oct 14th 2013 6:44am by Seriha

For the most part, I'm with Filth on this one. However, I do find it necessary for fights like Titan. I'm sorry, but while I like having challenging fights that require a lot of precision and execution, dying at any point in the fight shouldn't relegate you to "down for the count" for the rest of the fight. It shouldn't be "Oh, I died. Whatevs, I'll just raise." It should still involve some common sense mechanics, but that is how Titan is for most groups at the moment. The is so much AOE going on that you can't time anything. At least in Ifrit, you can wait for the plumes to show then hit your raise.

This is the way I experienced it, too. In the Garuda fight, we had an awesome WHM who managed to raise the rather unexperienced DRG and BRD a total of 4 (!) times while still keeping me alive and well. Each time, the DRG and the BRD bate (what`s the simple past tense of "bite"?!) the dust just after their raise animation had finished because, well, Garuda is an AOEing *****. And since the whole circle raise->raise animation->stand and be targetable for heals->be healed sufficiently to withstand a blow took up around 10 seconds, I think it was neither the WHMs nor one of the other two`s bad timing that led to their demise.

That's also assuming you knew where the caster was standing at the time.

I'm fine with being vulnerable after being Raised if there can be just one change: the animation has to be instantaneous. Currently it takes several seconds both for loading and for the character animation, during which you're vulnerable but immobile.

It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for you to get some indication of where you're going to be when you get up either. That one's not SUPER important, it'd just be nice.

I liked the strategy in planning out when exactly you raise. I didn't like the fact that you are forced to raise where the healer cast the spell and the fact that you could be targeted by abilities from the monster (but not from the healer) as you raised.

This is probably for the best. Some strategy will still be involved since you're still capable of getting smacked by an AoE after invincibility wears off but at least you'll be able to control what happens to your character and will live/die as a result.

The Raise-Medica 2 was glitch exploitation, due to it basically throwing an error into the Raise mechanic that it dealt with by erroring out of. That's been patched.

As for this... I have 0 issue with it. Likely the invulnerability will be about the length of the no-cures period. Sure, timing is important, but here's three things to consider:

1 - Raise here isn't Raise in FFXI. In FFXI, you had 1 hour to either HP or Raise. Here, you have 1 minute. So timing it becomes very difficult
2 - Raise animation lock isn't going away. Wish it would, but SE like's it's pretty graphics
3 - Choosing a Raise location would be awesome, but don't hold your breath for it. The mechanic already exists (See: Item usage on areas for quests and what not), but for them to do that, they'd need to negate the 1 minute Raise effect duration to give you time to target or people would need to decide ******* quick where to raise.

4 person parties means a BLM isn't usually handy :(

Somewhere Titan is crying in his Cheerios that he can no longer be the captain of spawnkill.