anyway to get another phial of fantasia?Follow

i changed my character's voice by mistake and i am wondering if it will ever be possible to change it back... does anyone know?

I wish I could sell mine. I'll soon have two of them, and I have no intention on changing my character.

I could get some gil, and another player could get some use out of an otherwise worthless (to me) item.

i'm not sure this would be a good idea. Being such a rare item (some people have 2, but everyone now who pays for more than 90 days will get only 1) means that people can hold onto these until a later time where people have used them all, making them very valuable, skyrocketing the price. If anything they should only be allowed to be given to other people for free.

What's the problem with a rare item being valuable? Supply and demand is just basic economics.

We're not talking about an item anyone needs to have. It would be a purely optional purchase.

For a Phial of Fantasia, I would only ever pay face value.

Quick correction here. The Phial is for paying for 30 days worth of subscriptions. 90 days is the one that gets you the Ahriman mount.

EDIT: Link for confirmation.


Edited, Oct 9th 2013 9:09pm by Arcari

Except its not that simple. Everthing that can be gotten by people would follow the laws of economics. The phial is finite and very rare as you can (at the moment) only have 1. Because of its extreme rarity in the future if there are no other ways to obtain this item again, anyone who wants to buy one will be at the mercy of the seller.

Also just because it isnt A neccessity, doesnt mean anything. If you want to see some rediculous items in MMO's i can give you the perfect example. Google "runescape blue party hat". Completely useless item, but goes for A LOT of money.

I just see this being abused by people if they are allowed to be sold. They are easy to get (everyone gets1) but they will also become rare because theres no other way to obtain it.

Hopefully it would not be an arm and a leg, it might leave you hopping mad and short handed.

A guy on in my linkshell was talked into changing from a Roegadyn to a Lalafell (crazy amirite?) and hated it. He got in touch with SE support and they changed him back.

He will be shunned by both races now forever more....

I could potentially see a couple of valid arguments against making it sellable, but neither of them revolve around the price it might command...

One could say that since it's essentially an item you're buying for real money (when you pay for your subscription), the ability to trade it for in-game gil could be considered as RMT. I'd say, however, that since everyone gets one (no one who subscribes at all can subscribe for less than 30 days) you may as well not be receiving it as part of payment and be given it at the start of the game. IIRC they give you some potions at the start of the game too, and you can sell those - why not this one?

The argument I'd buy into most is that giving you one is already pushing it in the first place... While I understand that a lot of people consider race, etc. to be purely cosmetic concerns, I'm of the opinion that this is supposed to be an mmoRPG and that race, gender, etc. are fundamental parts of your character and shouldn't be able to be changed anyway. If it were just changing hair style/color or superficial attributes like that I'd say do it as often as you like (or can afford)... With things that fundamentally alter your character's identity, be grateful they're giving you the opportunity to let you do it once. "Hey, look - my Lalafell friend Jane's got a new haircut!" - makes sense. "Hey look - my Lalafell friend Jane is a hyur dude today!" - not so much. Just my $.02, not adjusted for inflation.

Edited, Oct 10th 2013 10:20am by pynt

Edited, Oct 10th 2013 10:21am by pynt

Then don't pay 10 million gil for one? I seriously don't see the problem with allowing people to sell theirs if they don't want them. The person who pays 10 million for one must really not like their character.

because what if someone really didn't like their character. If your characters were not what they are now, and you didn't think they were what you really wanted, you would want a phial too. Too bad the only person who has one is selling it for no less than 10 million gil which is way more than i have. why should someone have to empty out there life savings for something like this? just so you can put more money in your pocket? It's like finding the cure for cancer and then charging 1 million dollars for it. Economically speaking that's totally fine because people are willing to pay that. morraly speaking, that would be very wrong.

So, who gets to decide which items should hold a value and which shouldn't? Because your classification seems very arbitrary to me.



Wow, that analogy is full of hyperbole.

You're equating someone having cancer with a player being displeased with the appearance of their character (which they themselves chose)?

Edit: If we are to follow your analogy, you wouldn't want someone to be able to sell the cure for cancer because they might price it too high, but then nobody gets the cure at all.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that, at least for now, every player will receive one after 30 days of subscription (monopoly not found). If they're not pleased with their character after the second time through the creator, it's really their own fault.

Again, this is a luxury item, and as such, I don't feel bad for people who either cannot afford it or are unwilling to pay the selling price.

Edited, Oct 10th 2013 2:06pm by Pickins