Crafting LeveFollow

There is a thread on BG about the best crafting leves for the level. If not nerfed, there is a goldsmithing one that gives something like 110k per leve.

My question, is can I have the HQ items already crafted ahead of time? Or do I have to craft them with the leve active?

Don't HAVE to craft them at all - I've done a lot of the alchemy ones buying stuff off the markets since people are dumping all the meds they got via quests for ridiculously cheap prices and just turned them in once bought.

I can verify this. I have been crafting 3 at a time, turning them in, then crafting 3 more, turning them in, then again 3 more and turn them in.

Make sure you turn in HQ items if possible for these... the exp is SICK!

I have to add to this, just to give an idea. There is (I typically stick to the area south of Dragon Head that has the obnoxious name) a series of level 30 leves that give ~21k exp per turn in. This doesn't seem like much (considering the amounts mentioned). But, leveling my Cloth crafter last weekend this is the breakdown of A SINGLE LEVE exp (Seriously, it was this good ~36-50, obviously there was a crafting drop-off in exp).
Flax -> Linen Thread Batch synthed for ~1k exp (dropped to 200ish) (will only count enough for one leve)Say, 27 synths
Linen Thread -> Undyed linen cloth, ~6k per synth, consitentenly HQed this, so, I would then do 18 Cloth

Finally, to make the Linen Tights (3x turn in leve).
This would take 2 linen Cloth, 1 linen thread, roughly 8k per synth, 3 synths per turn in, 9 turned in total

so, we have:
1,000*27
6,000*18
8,000*9
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207000 (Just on crafting)

followed by (21,000+ (21,000*2))*3 for HQ turn ins
189,000

So, almost 400,000 for turning in a single leve.

As you level up (above 40), the crafting exp drops down as low as ~50k, but you are still walking away with over 200k per leve.

Romper Stomper - 17670 xp, 375 gil
Limsa Lominsa, triple turn in
3 Steel-plated Jackboots

I used this leve to go from ARM 34-37 last night. I'm getting a 50% HQ rate on the final product so not as much XP as I would have liked but still very nice. I like this one because the mats are easy to get a hold of. Forge the steel plates yourself and buy the leather. I'm leveling LTW too so I made my own leather.

My personal advice.

Level all crafts to 15 (just use discover exp, save the leves)
Level culinary to 15-37 for steady hand 2 (use leves 20+, look for the triple hand ins)
Level weaver 15 to 50 for careful synthesis 2

Level what ever other crafters you want, but those level 15 abilities, + steady hand 2 + careful synthesis, should allow you to HQ everything with NQ mats (up till 50* recipes)

Cool, I'm working on the level 15 crafts now... have CUL at 31-32 already so will definitely go to 37 soon, just need to grind out Weaver to 50 (wasn't really planning on doing weaver since it's not for my melee class Dragoon, but hey let's face it... I'm a crafter now almost 100% so who cares if I sew, right?)



Edited, Sep 24th 2013 12:38pm by Hairspray

I should have added a caveat, I have most of my crafts at 50 now (When I started 2.0 I had 1/2 at 50, the other 1/2 were 36ish).

I was able to use this same basic process to get alchemy and Carpentry to 50 from 36ish, and now only have cooking and leather left to level.

I would highly recommend against buying HQ ingredients from the Market. Though it is hard to HQ before you get all your crafts over 15, there are some abilities that really make a difference.

Hasty Touch. As long as you have the gear to back it up, I couldn't HQ 1/2 the time if it wasn't for this ability.

Inner Quiet. It is a godsend. I don't even use Rumination, as the bonus to quality gain is so important at the end.

Getting as much CP as humanly possible.

And there is quite a bit more to HQing, but that would be for another thread.

Will do. I am planning on mapping out abilities and timing in an image to outline what I have found for best crafting practices. I will try and get it up here when I am done.

I personally use the hasty hand + steady hand 2 method.

Works best for 70/80 durability items.
Few notes:
Use good every time (unless you are at 100% cp, then use the 1.5 multiple)
If you get an excellent and have durability (aka aren't at 10% durability) then always use it with your highest touch/quality ability
You can use other skills like manipulation/waste not, this is just my preferred method.

80 Inner quiet
80 Steady hand 2
80-> 70 Hasty hand
70->60 Hasty hand
60-> 50 hasty hand
50->40 Hasty hand (assuming at least 1 good proc by now, thus steady hands 2 will fade, reapply sooner/later as needed)
50 Steady hand 2 (again apply sooner if needed)
50->40 Hasty hand
40->30 Hasty hand
30->20 Hasty hand
20->80 Masters mend 2
80 steady hand 2 (again apply sooner/later depending on when it fades)
80->70 Hasty hand
70->60 Hasty hand
60->50 Hasty Hand
50->80 Masters Mend 1

By now I am usually 90%+ quality so I will pop a careful synthesis 2 to get an idea of how many it will take (unless I know it will only take 1)
80->70 careful synthesis 2 (calculate how many more careful synthesis are needed to finish, and do n-1, so if you need 3 more to finish, do 2 more careful synthesis)
70->60 careful synthesis 2
60->50 careful synthesis 2

Now you only need 1 more progress to finish, and you have ~90% quality and a few options.

1) Try your luck with hasty hand and no steady hand
2) Use rumination, and apply a steady hand (1 or 2) and use a standard/advanced touch (or lvl 50 crp skill, but it is not needed)

Personally, I love Innovation (got gsm to 50 and unlocked it). Use it all the time.

Here's a thread on the O-Boards listing some of the triple turn in leves. I didn't see it posted here.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/89012-Triple-Turn-in-Leves