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No no sorry, i think you misunderstood based on punctuation.
"Now to religious people who don't believe in science" is referring specifically to only religious people who don't believe in science.

If i would have stuck a comma in there it would be different. for example "now to religious people, who don't believe in science" would suggest all religious people did not believe in science

As to free speech, I am not American, sorry. I am Canadian. And while we have free speech here we also have something illegal called hate speech. And if you make derogatory comments about gay people (regardless of them being your opinion) that is considered hate speech. If made publically it's considered hate propaganda.

However as to religion, there is an entire field called neurotheology that covers how the brain forms religious thought (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotheology)
The wikipedia talks about some of the main studies. If you are more specific on what you want to know I can try to find some journal articles on it.

One neuroscientist who suffered a stroke experienced what is like a religious out-of-body experience and described it here: http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html

Then there is the god helmet which induces religious experiences: http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/brain-religion2.htm
And that article talks about some diff studies and the evolutionary benefits of religion

And then there are many different drugs that can do the same.

You asked me to provide scientific sources on my claims.
The links in my original post describe the scientific studies in plain english. I also mentioned one of the studies. What evidence would you like that isn't available in that post?

If it's gays being born gay here is one journal article i found free online: http://hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1993-homosexual-orientation-in-twins.html
there are many others that have the same conclusions though (that twins have higher rates of homosexuality than normal brothers and sisters suggesting it's partly dna). However, epigenetics, and many other factors, seem to come into effect. Let me know if you want to know more. or read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
The science community is pretty well 100% sure being gay isn't a choice. The controversy is about -what- leads to homosexuality.
But the fact that most animals show homosexuality and some animals like dolphins are almost all bisexual, tends to suggest it's natural.

Just have the same thing they did in XI...

Let people buy the rings, re-craft them to ingrave their own name, and exchange them. No massive ceremony needed, no GM support needed, just go find a quiet part of the woods with some friends and done.

I'll have you know i cant be bothered by it or even remotely upset by the subject. We've had gay marriages in my country (The Netherlands) for years. People stopped making a deal about it, about around the time people stopped bringing it up every 5 minutes like it was some big issue. So really, it's just the people that promote this that **** me off, for the pure and simply reason that they're portraiting this as something horrible and/or shocking when i'm sure no one really cares about it in the first place.

Let them do whatever they like. As long as they dont actively bother me about it ingame, i'm good. It's like my stance on religion, if you make sure not to knock on my door at 7 AM and wake me just to tell me about god, i really couldnt care less about what you believe in.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 9:03am by KojiroSoma

Ya know I honestly don't get whats the big deal with same sex marriages. If two people care about each enough to the point they want to make that step and take everything that comes with that choice, the highs and lows, then good for them. Its when you get asses that are radically against people being allowed that choice is when I start to get irked. What damn business of it is theirs? It's ignorance like this that makes me sad of the current state of humanity.

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And Ehllfire, it's people like you that make me wish at times that you need to register before you can breed. You're worried about your kids getting mixed signals, I worry for the state of their intelligence if a game has so much pull on their being. If they have questions, for christs sake man answer them, and at least try to do it rationally.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 4:43am by OniElvaan

The reason some men who watch girl/girl **** are against women marrying each other is that part of the lesbian fantasy is that the two girls fall in love with him.

Edited, Aug 20th 2013 7:59am by Catwho

That sounds fabulous.

I'm a Christian, think science works ******** and I'm all for gay marriage. Did I just divide by zero?

That just made me LOL in RL! THe gays are gonna get ya and paint your rooms rainbow! Should they put Same Gender Loving People Marriage in the game and new medias have a field day with it, they will come under fire too. Seems its a win win for getting the game out there. People will pick it up just to have gay wedding posted on Youtube.

Nope, because you still use your brain. The majority of [insert religion here] never seem to get the pure essence of their religion -- the actual faith part of it -- and become consumed by what they should and shouldn't do and should and shouldn't believed told to them by others. "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." is a fairly apt observation, but ultimately applies to any religion and not just Christianity.

I don't believe in any type of deity period but I'm all for people that have actual faith in their patron deity. The problem becomes when people throw away their logic, common sense, and intelligence because it's what others tell them they should do.



You're so wrong it isn't even funny.

Marriages have existed and been documented well in the pre-BC era by the Sumerians in southern Mesopotamia nearly 2,500 years BC (we're talking almost five thousand years ago). Over the next few hundred years is spread into the Greeks, Hewbrews, and Romans. This is well before Christianity was even a thought and religion didn't even have anything to do with marriage.

It wasn't until the Roman Catholic Church emerged (1st century AD) where they began to force the idea that people needed to be blessed by the church in order for it to become valid. That took almost eight centuries to force and coerce the western world into the belief that a priest was needed in order to be valid. And it wasn't even until the Council of Trent (sometime in the 1500s AD I think, not sure) before it even became a part of canon with faith and that was almost four thousand years after the first marriage.

No, marriage doesn't have anything to do with religion of any type.

Period.