Would you agree with these cons?Follow

especially th ebolded one:

"Cons-combat, targeting was a mess, found it slow, frustrating and unsatisfying
-chat, with no voice chat it just adds to the frustration while in a dungeon or mid combat
-no interactions, no collecting or searching the world for anything
-quests, I thought the quests were extremely boring and not just the 100s of fetch quests but the dungeons themselves, I can't see myself wanting to return to any of them.
-interface, I found the controls and menus just as frustrating, nothing was seamless or effortless."

Edited, Aug 7th 2013 1:40pm by DuoMaxwellxx

Nope, I don't agree with any of those cons. The game isn't perfect, but certainly not for any of the reasons you listed, for me at least.

Forget that... what about the grass!!

I'm sorry... I couldn't resist, I'll behave I promise!!

Edited, Aug 7th 2013 2:52pm by jayfly

I myself am only really concerned about the bold one. I mean as for combat being slow well I love FFXI and that combat is slo.. soooo yeah, as for targeting be a mess.. what could be messy about either tabbing to what you wanna attack then attack or simply clicking on it then attacking, surely you can perform functions that basic for targeting right? As for no voice chat.. I played FFXI on console (not pc which means no vent or anything like that) for 5+ years so voice chat (or lackthereof) is clearly not an issue to me.

As for the quests well I did like that 90% of FFXIs quests were actually unique/had a story/or some thought behind them but its obviously that a game whos premise is mainly based on quest leveling and not sitting in an exp party for hours to level up that the quests will be bland, fetch type quests where there are thousands of quests to do as opposed to FFXIs hundreds, so while i might not like it its definitely to be expected an makes sense

As for interface and menus all RPGs have menu navigation like that including FFXIs which ppl could consider "bad" I mean who actually used the menu in FFXI outside maybe teh first 10 levels? Eventually you learn to bypass the menu entirely because everything could be macroed and handled with on eor two button presses, as for controls the game worked just fine on a ps2 gamepad. Im sure those same things can be said about XIV, so again the only part Im really questioning is the bold part.. i mean having huge world with nothing to search for, collect or interact with (like maybe a treasure chest laying around) makes teh world seem shallow and lifeless, FFXI always had stuff laying around to find or interact with even if it was completely useless (like most likes IRL that you find laying on the ground)

I prefer the slow pace of combat personally.
I know when I played FFXI, the slow pace was fantastic, especially as a mage.
Those moments of having to rest MP were precious. Gave time to assess the situation, talk with guildies, relax.
I find playing new MMO's, I rarely have time to relax, I'm always doing something. It always seems to be go, go, go... I never have time to type in guild chat because I find I'm always in combat firing off skills every half second for hours on end, or running around like a madperson. I have yet to play any of the beta, but if there's a return to relaxing a bit, and taking things a bit slower, I'm all for it.
As for the points from the OP, it's pretty standard for most guilds groups to be using Ventrillo or TeamSpeak nowadays. I'm not sure how it works on PS3, but as a PC player, it doesn't affect me. Even so, the ability to communicate via typing in FFXI was fine. I can't see why in FFXIV it would be any different. PvE battles generally go a set way, you either know what you're doing or you don't. The dynamic fighting style of PvP arena battles may call for more communication, but that's hardly an issue for FF gamers in general.
Fetch quests are standard, I know GW2 had a different approach which was nice to be honest as far as questing goes, but fetch quests aren't too bothersome to me. Again, it's another opportunity to return to a quest hub and relax for a second.
I can't comment on the UI as I have yet to try it, but from what I've read, it's an upgrade from 1.0 and I'm sure SE wouldn't make the same UI decisions as they did in 1.0 so I'm sure they learned from their mistakes.

It honestly wasn't all that different. The hearts just took over quest hubs, but you still had to grind out objectives and kill X amount of mobs, or pick up X amount of items, or save X amount of NPCs. They just put a new coat of paint on it and tried to sell it as something else, but really it was the same idea just set up slightly different. In fact, by the time I hit level 40 or so, I dreaded the heart quests because they all ended up being slightly different iterations of the exact same thing.

One of my 2 dozen or so complaints about 1.0 was the lack of global chat channels. It was impossible to ask questions of your fellow players, unless they were in shouting distance. Has that been added with this version?

There are channels for each zone, but no game-wide channel (which would be a very bad idea anyway).

which is what I'm looking for, thanks :)

There are actually plenty of reasons to explore. First off, you need to locate each dungeon and go there to complete a quest before unlocking it. On top of that, there are tons of crystals to attune to, there are towns full of NPCs offering up more quests or selling different items. There are places like the strongholds which didn't serve a lot of purpose in the beta but you can be sure there will be stuff like FATEs or high level objectives there. There is also the exploration just for seeing the absolute beauty and wonder of the world as a whole. I traveled to every corner and can really say that the game world is absolutely gorgeous and worth exploring just to see it. Also, there is the notion of exploring in order to find mobs to fill out your hunting log and GC hunting log.

Let's not forget, the game was still in beta so we really don't even know what else they have in store for us in the world.

I noticed the quotes, and figured you were quoting someone. But it's not terribly clear.

If you're quoting another source, you should probably attribute the source. When you post these OPs with no context, it feels like you have some ulterior motive for asking these questions.

I think there are achievements for attuning to all the ones in a region and then a bigger one for having every one in the game. That's some added incentive.

and what about those ppl that avoid crafting? I mean not EVERYONE in FFXI crafted why would FFXIV be any different?