Dungeon Loot SystemFollow

I'm out of town most of this Beta weekend and I'm afraid I won't get back to my PS3 to try the new Duty Finder system this session. I've held off trying to enter any dungeons so far as I didn't want to wait and /shout when there were other facets of the game I could be experiencing. After reading a couple of threads today, I noticed a few people talking about dungeon members "greeding" for gear. I think I also read about "want" and "pass." I believe I can figure out what "pass" means in relation to equipment drops, but can someone please explain the "greed" and "want" aspects to me (or just the entire system)? My only MMO experience is FFXI pre-Abyssea. I'm not very well versed in MMO systems or terminology, but I want to learn. If there are other aspects of the system you feel I should be aware of, I'd appreciate any information.

Thanks in advance for your help. I just didn't want to wait another week until I can play to find out more about how this works. I'm so excited for this game! Thanks again.

Also this leg of the beta is going on past just the weekend. So far no end date announced so maybe you'll get in a little play time after all!

I ended up getting back in time to try Duty Finder a half dozen times. I really enjoyed it. I was also able to experience the Need, Greed, Pass system first hand and even got a few upgraded pieces of gear for my CNJ. That actually brings me to my next question: what is the difference between green and pink bordered equipment? In the dungeons, we had several pieces of green and pink gear drop during the runs. At first I thought it might be a quick way to distinguish between melee and magic gear, but as a CNJ I received a couple pieces of each. Both colors were clear upgrades to my existing gear. Does anyone know what the colors are supposed to indicate? I appreciate any clarification you can provide. Thanks.

Going by http://xivdb.com/, green items have higher stats than pink. My guess is that green is the equivalent to a high quality version.

Edit: Now that I take a better look at it, all the pink items are listed as only untradable. The green items are listed as either unique or untradable and unique.

Edited, Jul 7th 2013 11:52am by FrozenSherbet

Settle in, because that one will NEVER go away.

I like the loot system. It seems fair and generally rewards everyone (most of the time) unless you get a bad apple or a bad roll of the dice.

I have a couple questions.

1) Do you keep the countdown screen up the entire time and choose Need/Greed/Pass options repeatedly as they update, or should you disengage and reengage the Treasure Coffer each time to check the new roll?

2) Did anybody else notice that the first 2 Treasure Coffers in any dungeon didn't provide any prompt menus or items to anyone? Then starting at the 3rd it began providing items as normal. I only noticed this last weekend in Beta 3 Phase 4, but not B3 P3 prior.

1) There's a small tab on the right labeled "Loot" if there is loot to be rolled on. No need to keep windows open.

2) That has not happened to me yet.

Yeah it seems like if there's just potions and the Allaghan pieces it just randomly distributes them to the party. If there's an actual equippable item you roll on it.

This is my experience too. It took me an open chest or two of wondering why I couldn't scan until I realized it was instantly transferring general item drops (oh Hello text box).

No.

You click on each item you want to vote for and hit need, greed or pass. Once you're all done with it, you can move on. If a new item drops, the Loot button will be available again.

The issue there is you'd run into situations where you've got 4 people rolling on, say, CNJ gear, including the CNJ who can't figure out why his need rolls do nothing.

It'd be quite a frustrating experience.

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Well people will act like that always I am afraid.

I was in a dungeon I believe Copper bell mines and there were 3 upgrades that dropped for me and the healer managed to get all of them. I didn't complain for the simple reason it was luck and only luck. I did 2 more runs after that and got the gear so who cares.


As for the "he wasn't good and should pass" I would just answer them with a question. If you were the one that sucked in there would YOU pass on the loot? Of course not and they shouldn't even say it. If they thought he was not good they could drop the party for a better one any time! People will always find a reason to complain ALWAYS!

The loot system is great really a fair chance for everyone. The only problem is the people that are using it.




Edited, Jul 7th 2013 5:11pm by Teravibe

I would prefer this rarity if that meant I could do dungeons as a healer while looking for gear for a DD job. There is always a lack of healers compared to other jobs, which results in people needing to wait around. People would be able to form parties faster with my idea in place, and the chances are low that everyone would be after the same pieces of gear.