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#1 Jan 11 2007 at 6:55 PM Rating: Good
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... and there was this shiny box that said "Dark Age of Camelot" on it. I knew DaoC was an MMORPG, like my beloved Final Fantasy XI, and that it was older but a lot of people still play it. I also knew one of its big selling points was RvR combat. That's about all I knew.

Now, let me be specific about what this box was. Big Lots is a store that sells clearance merchandise no longer carried at other stores. This was DaoC Gold Edition, that comes with the original game and the Shrouded Isles expansion. That's it. I know there are a zillion more, I saw the whole thing at EBGames just recently. Gold Edition also comes with a map of the three realms and a (probably obsolete) player's guide, and comes in a BIG box, one of the ones that's almost the size of my laptop that PC games used to come with.

It looked so shiny. So ... collectible. I'd just gotten the Civ Chronicles set for Christmas, and the collector in me was saying "Map! Booklet! Shininess! Must get!" I wasn't sure I was convinced. But I found the box like a minute before we had to leave, and so I had to make a snap decision.

So I'm here now, with the box in front of me, typing up a post on Ala -- where I usually go for FFXI info. And I'm asking you guys a question. Not just "Is this a good game," not just "Help me I'm new," but "Is it worth it to play with just the game and the first expansion?" Will the game, like, crash on me or something? I know there'll be a million and one hours of updates, but that doesn't bother me greatly; I can just bring my laptop to the library and use their free wireless Internet.

So, should I return the game (I haven't opened it yet) or not? Anyone?

Thank you in advance. {/bow}

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 9:51pm by Murrquan

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 9:53pm by Murrquan
#2 Jan 12 2007 at 6:18 AM Rating: Good
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okay, I'll try to help.

DAoC has 4 active clients you can play in

Trials of Atlantis
Catacombs
Darkness Rising
Lord of the Minotaur

Your version would be before Trials of Atlantis came out.

However, you are not doomed. I believe the game will automatically update you when you log in. You will have to go through a ton of patches. You may wait hours to catch up on all you missed, but in short, every month or two the game is updated via patches. this process is automatic, so when you log onto any client, you get these updates.

From the load in screen, you can purchase the newer expansions. However, my suggestion would just to use the free 14 day trial (which is already ToA capable). From there, you are already ahead of where you are buying the boxed Gold Edition. About the only downside to this is you will have to download everything, whereas with the Gold Edition, you will get started with CD's which are a bit faster....you can still use your CD key from the version you purchased to activate it to a full account and not a trial account.

Here is the link for the free trial
http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/

Just as a side note, very shortly they plan on getting rid of Trials of Atlantis client.....Catacombs client will be then made free to all users, and only the last two expansions will need be purchased.
#3 Jan 12 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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one more thing..on the link I provided, there is also the option to purchase the entire gamepac with all expansions for $29.99. I believe this is the same price as upgrading to the LoTM x-pac from the free trial, so really, buying what you bought was not really needed, and didn't save you anything in the long run. I would recommend trying out the free trial and seeing if you are interested.

Hopefully, you know some people from your other games and can meet them in game for some help.

It is not very newb friendly and finding people to level with is very difficult at that low of a level. Don't judge the game though until you hit 20-24 and can enter Thidranki. thidranki is a taste of what you will experience in big boy RvR and is very fun, fast and exciting.

This game is about being 50, not getting there (and sadly, the game caters to this and experienced players know ways to go from 1-50 in literally hours whereas you it will take weeks or even a month to do). This really hurts the game in attracting new players to it.
#4 Jan 12 2007 at 5:17 PM Rating: Good
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Okay, so ... I download the 14-day trial, wait a million years for updates, then use the CD key I bought if I decide I want to keep playing? If I don't have to buy the expansions, I don't think I will ... it's doubtful that I'll want to play for very long, especially in a newbie-unfriendly game.

Is that about right? Many thanks for your help.
#5 Jan 12 2007 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
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Hmmm, thinking about it, there is no reason to use your CD key if you download the free trial.

you will just have to decide if you want to pay for it past then, but since you would already have a "ToA" account from the free trial, no reason to use a SI CD key.

The game is about the best thing going if you would want to play other people. The PvE is solid, but probably not as good as WoW. The crafting was just made easy, and has a place in the game..that is crafted items are near the top of the line equipment.

That is why I said don't judge the game until you hit level 24 (and can enter Thidranki). If you don't like it then, you probably will never like it. The latest expansion has a RvR area that is not so unlike Thidranki. New people can do well in it and gain Realm Ranks (this is for level 50 toons primarily) just because of the setup, and the gank groups generally leave it alone. Also, even though you will lose out a lot of the total experience of the game, classic servers are much more newb friendly should you go that route.
#6 Jan 14 2007 at 4:44 AM Rating: Good
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Okay, so ... this CD key does me no good, and if I use it I won't be auto-updated or anything. I just won't be able to play with it. BUT I can download the demo and play that, and buy the full version as normal. Correct?

Many thanks for answering my questions, sir. {/bow}
#7 Jan 14 2007 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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You could install the disk version you have....you would just need more updating. That is like probably version 1.4x or something. We are in 1.87 now, so you would have 40 odd updates to do, plus getting to the minimum ToA client.

I just think it is shorter to go with the demo free trial, since you will have so much downloading anyways.

Financially, you did not save anything by buying a "real" edition over using the free trial and in actuality lost some money out of it (since they give out that and more for free). You can start with either though and progress, but you have lots of downloading either way.

Edited, Jan 14th 2007 12:10pm by thuri
#8 Jan 19 2007 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
No he can't just "Update the SI version", The original Client and the SI Client are no longer supported. He wasted his money on them. He's better off signing on via the new 14 day free trial he downloaded. As for the nice shiney box he bought at BigLot's. I'd return it for your money back.
#9 Jan 19 2007 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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he would play in ToA client...the game would update him automatically. It has been made available for free.

They announced soon that ToA will be shut down also and people will automatically get Catacombs client upgrade for free.

Found the link:
http://www.trialsofatlantis.com/downloads/

Edited, Jan 20th 2007 10:24am by thuri
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