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#52 Apr 24 2006 at 12:57 PM Rating: Good
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Page claimed in the name of e-suiciders everywhere!
#53 Apr 24 2006 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
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Admins, please let Koji come back...most of us are tired of this whiney crybaby look at me "I got banned because of windower ******************* the, "omg, I've been nerfed" crap, or even the constant ******** about maintance. You want the game to work properly, right?

AT LEAST HE WAS ENTERTAINING, and usually relevant...in some sort of way... o.O?
#54 Apr 24 2006 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi, you're so damned analytical =P

However, unlike that one time in one of the other forums, I actually agree with you on this one
#55 Apr 24 2006 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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lol thank you?

Yeah people often disagree with me :d I am not swayed by popular opinion, which often leaves the majority of the population disagreeing with me. If something makes sense, it does. If it doesn't, it doesn't. x=x is about the extent of my philosophy, which is to say, I'm a very reasonable person, but also very adamant that what I percieve is correct unless shown why it's incorrect, in which case I'm happy to learn something new. Well, adamant on the surface I guess, but truthfully I'm simply to lazy to add a modifier to everything I say. Something like: "This is not a fact. This is just the most likely theory based on a lifetime of personal observation." should probably inserted after everything I say.

btw, which forum was that? >_>
#57 Apr 25 2006 at 1:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Zackhe wrote:
I want to come back, but i'll need the admins premission. It's obvious i can dodge a ban using a proxy or stuff, but if they decided BAN there is really no point to continue posting.

I hope they will change their oppinion about me once, but until than... i'll miss the place.
Koji, AIM me sometime at Feba35.





We need to talk.
#58 Apr 25 2006 at 1:42 AM Rating: Good
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Doesent at all bother you that you just gave the entire forum your AIM feba? Smiley: lol
#59 Apr 25 2006 at 1:46 AM Rating: Default
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MessengerofPeaceTolone the Charming wrote:
Doesent at all bother you that you just gave the entire forum your AIM feba? Smiley: lol
not the first time i've done it.



#60 Apr 25 2006 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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*totally stalks Feba on AIM*
#61 Apr 25 2006 at 1:48 AM Rating: Default
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Kirbster wrote:
*totally stalks Feba on AIM*


nothing yet >.>





Either way, anyone on this forum is welcome to contact me, if they need help, info, etc.
#62 Apr 25 2006 at 1:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Unlike Allakhazam, there's an ignore feature on AIM.

As for Koji committing suicide or not, truth be told I'm surpirsed he hasn't. This forum seemed to be his life.
#63 Apr 25 2006 at 5:14 AM Rating: Good
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Or... He could have had his internet revoked... By his parents or something XD
#64 Apr 25 2006 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, a few things...

One, just because he hasn't been around for a few days doesn't mean much of anything. So, before anyone jumps to some conclusions, let's get all the facts.

Two, while I never liked the guy, he told you some of that stuff in confidence and really ou had no right to post it here like that. I understand you wanted to give us some proof on the matter, but please PLEASE have some respect for keeping confidential stuff out of the public's eye.

Three I want to reply to this post...

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That's a fairly inaccurate blanket statement.

I don't have time to go into an in-depth explanation, so I'll just blurt out some facts.

Initially, humans do not choose to exist. They are brought into this world against their will. Then we impress upon them that they have an obligation to keep existing, that it is wrong for them to purposefully stop living.

People strive to be happy. (This is also where we see large inconsistencies in Maslow's hierarchy). This may apply to animals as well but I'm not aware of any cases in which an animal forfeits their life due to an inability to achieve a happy life.

Anyway, there must be an incentive to keep living. Simply being able to survive is not enough for a person to WANT to survive. This means that to some extent, expectations must be fulfilled on that person's part.

In other words, if you only find suffering in life, why do you want to live? Answer: you don't. This is why people kill themselves.

Failed suicide attempts -may- be a cry for attention. That's not to say that a cry for attention is just the person being a whiny brat. It means that person is not sufficiently happy to want to keep living, and they need some external influence to change that, just like if you're hungry and you can't get food for yourself, you let people know "I'm hungry!".

Actual suicides are never a cry for attention. The person has accepted that they will not get what they desire from life and there really is no point in living a life where you feel that way all the time. It's equivalent to someone starving to death.

In other words, the person doesn't need "attention". Attention won't fill a hungry stomach, and it likewise won't in and of itself make a person's life suddenly have meaning and be empty of misery. It's simply a prerequisite. If you're hungry and can't get food, you need someone to pay you attention and feed you. If you want to die, you need someone to pay attention to you and help you through it.


This hits it right on the head. For those who wish to see people as weak or selfish, I probably can't do much to change your minds. However, you probably ought to know that if someone commits suicide, that person is escaping. Which is the only thing he or she really wants and has come to the conclusion that death is the only way to do it. As morbid as this sounds, you should be a bit happy that they are no longer in pain and no longer have to deal with the hellishness they have been going through.

For anyone out there that feels that suicide is the way to go, please consider some other options first. Counciling can do wonders. Its long and hard at times, but it can make life not only bearable but livable again. Things can get better. 1-800-suicide is a toll free number with people trained to deal with suicidal people. As far as I know, its 100% confidential. So, if you or anyone you know is going down that path, please find some help.
#65 Apr 25 2006 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
He's alive, I was wrong.

Carry on...

~Blix
#66 Apr 25 2006 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
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He's alive, I was wrong.

Carry on...

~Blix


lol
#67 Apr 25 2006 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
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In my experience, people who talk about suicide all the time don't actually ever do it.

Kind of like sex...
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#68 Apr 25 2006 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Who gives a ****. This thread is useless.
#69 Apr 25 2006 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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That's a long post to double ._.

Edited, Tue Apr 25 11:57:53 2006 by Kachi
#70 Apr 25 2006 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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Who gives a @#%^. This thread is useless.


It's more useful than the post you just contributed >_>

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In my experience, people who talk about suicide all the time don't actually ever do it.


It's true that as I said before, it's usually a cry for help, but every suicide "threat" should be taken seriously. Though the majority of people who talk about suicide never go through with it, some of them do. People who talk about suicide are crying for help.

And yes, that means that they are weak and selfish, but that is normal. Everyone begins weak and must acquire strength (I'm speaking in terms of emotional strength, being able to manage one's own emotions and manage one's actions to support the cultivation of positive emotions). People who want to die do need help; they will not become "stronger" by being told that they are just being weak. This would be equivalent to putting someone behind the wheel of a car that doesn't know how to drive. It's not something every person can just figure out on their own. Without guidance, some of those people will die.

And selfishness is natural. Humans are egocentric creatures, and they need to be to some extent. If humans took care of others first, things would be messy to say the least. How am I supposed to feed you when you're off feeding Human 324? How do you even know when someone else needs food? Of course the sensible ideal is that everyone feeds themself, but the reality is that not everyone can. However, everyone can make an effort to take care of their own needs, and that is what we are referring to. We don't have a very accomodating vocabulary for distinguishing between different kinds of selfishness, but effectively, there is selfishness in regards to addressing your owns need first (normal and practical) and also, selfishness which does not respect the needs of others (also normal, but socially crippling; i.e. crime).

THE ONE THING I CAN NOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH (this was probably the best advice I was ever given) taking into account that suicide is highest among adolescents, is that in far more cases than not, life gets much better. When you're young and the hormones are still raging (even potentially into the 20's) it's really tough. You hear adults who say things like "You think it's tough now, just wait til you have bills to pay, etc," and that's not entirely true. That'd be like telling Tony Hawk that grinding a rail (that's where they slide down hand rails and stuff on a skateboard) wasn't tough when he was 8. It's nearly ******* impossible for an average 8-year old. For someone with years of training, it's a piece of cake. That's an exaggeration but you should get the idea. Yes, it's harder than what you're doing, but you'll be much better able to deal with it (it= life)

Generally when young people reach their early to mid 20's, as long as they don't make poor decisions time and time again, their life gets much better. Young people often don't grasp just how much potential their life has to improve. They often see one mistake as the end of the world, a tremendous setback. It's never too late to not make your next mistake. You will see a better life because of it... no person's life is so ****** up that they can't **** it up any worse, trust me.

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He's alive, I was wrong.

Carry on...

~Blix


lol
#71 Apr 25 2006 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
He's alive, I was wrong.

Carry on...

~Blix



Guess you werent the good friends you thought afterall if he was alive and you didnt know it.

#72 Apr 25 2006 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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And here I thought Blix was always koji's paid account. rofl

Otherwise, I'd rather not see his (Kojiami,helleticweapon,whatever) post ever again.


Thanks alot for bringing up such bad memories of this idiot again.



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