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#1 Jan 22 2014 at 2:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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In March EQ will celebrate its 15th anniversary. Two new race/class combinations—one that the players voted on recently and the other a dev pick—the Wood Elf Beastlord and the Froglok Monk. Heroic Characters, an “insta-85 character” Station Cash feature that was added to EverQuest II as recently as last October, will be added the week before the anniversary celebrations. New anniversary content, such as the Plane of War zone, will be released throughout the month: “We have a nostalgic zone that was created during the time of Planes of Power that wasn’t ready to release, but we just wanted to get it done… we thought the 15th anniversary was the perfect time to do that.” The regular anniversary content will make a return as well!



Yep its true there will be an insta level 85, it says "insta 85 character station cash feature " not sure exactly how this is going to play out. Whether everyone has to pay for it if they want or if gold members will get one for free then pay after....who knows there going to be a lot of level 85 woodelf beasties and frog monks me thinks.
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#2 Jan 22 2014 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
wonder if the insta 85 would be good for their make a new toon tourments they have some times?
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Being an Altoholic, my highest char is 76. I'm not sure I would even want to group with myself if the opportunity existed. I have zero knowledge of the content at that level.
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Well, if it was coming (which seemed likely)... this is a smart time to do it.

this article for the source of the quote.


Not sure what I would do with an insta 85 either, but I will make one if they offer "1 free" (they did that as an introduction in EQII).

I may have trouble choosing a class though...
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The irony is that many players learn how to play their class leveling from 1 to 85. God Help us all in a pickup group with a tank or cleric, just to name two classes, who was "born" at 85.

Like the grouping game isn't already in trouble...
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The irony is that many players learn how to play their class leveling from 1 to 85. God Help us all in a pickup group with a tank or cleric, just to name two classes, who was "born" at 85.

Like the grouping game isn't already in trouble...


Spot on. As a returning player, I hopped on my lvl 70 BL and thought it'd be like riding a bike. It was more like riding a bike with anti-grav, a jet rocket, and an automated bartender complete with those little umbrellas they put in drinks.

Switched over to another server I'd never had a toon on and started from scratch on a new BL. Only way I could re-learn to play what was once a hand-in-glove class match to my play style.

This, OTOH, will be like the "good ol'days" of eBay'd toons, except, legitimately jumping on a lvl 85 -- "Hey y'all, I made a lvl 85 War let's go tank some current content kk?!?!?"



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#7 Jan 23 2014 at 2:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's not bad enough people are already power leveling: have no clue or idea to play a toon in some instances,

boxing along with that. Now a instant level 85 toon: have to wonder will the toon come equipped with level

appropriate gear, weapons, augments and alternate abilities.
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Now a instant level 85 toon: have to wonder will the toon come equipped with level

appropriate gear, weapons, augments and alternate abilities.

Yes i think that is true, maybe not augments but gear and AAs im sure...at least that was true in the EQ2 Hero bump up.

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So few "new" players exist.

Factor in that new players that do come around have most likely played other mmos. The newer the content in EQ you access, the less archaic it is constructed (TSS up is a much "nicer" as in kinder, world to play in). Caster DPS isn't that different from game to game... sure there is oddball things to know for every class. I would suggest a dedicated player that researches his/her new class at 85 could quickly be better at playing it than many that "played it all the way" themselves.

How I played my first enchanter 1-65 vs. the second one a few years later... (the third was Mayong 51/50. That was nice). Someone ebaying a 65 chanter when I was playing the first one could easily have been better at it than I was.

Insta 85 will primarly be used by experience/veteran accounts that want a new box, or to run a new class they haven't done that high without the hassle of skilling up and such. Maybe those with too much money will create armies of level 85 rangers to track named spawns... but I'm not going to worry about that.

Insta-85s will be better geared, skilled up and AAed than all but the most devout of Power Levelled characters.

So it will come down to the player behind the insta 85. Maybe they've never played a warrior, but if they understand tanking... I don't think it anywhere approaches what we saw when ebaying was a problem in this game.

Particularly once the window for a free up with gold membership passes. We might have a few weeks with a whole lot of level 85 frog monks and wood elf plant enslavers... but I think lots of those will end up retired.


EQII piloted this... what's the feeling over there?
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So few "new" players exist.


Yep, that's the thing... What segment of the player base were they really targeting with the insta-85 feature, that I assume we have to purchase for real cash (not station cash) in the Marketplace, like how the Kronos are marketed.

Because if that is so, the only demographic that I could see benefitting from it would be those starting a character and account from scratch and have no resources or high characters on other accounts from playing before.. no guild and in game friends to p/level them... but happen to have and are willing to spend real cash to fatten the SOE-EQ coffers. They must be a small percentage indeed.

As most established gold players can simply power level their own character to within a few levels of their highest character or main in a matter of hours for nothing but some time. While I suspect that most F2P and Silver players wont spend the real money if its a handicapped character at lvls 85 with the respective packages limitations.

Though, I doubt it will really impact the group game at higher levels as it is already segregated by in game cliques, guild affiliation, skill, gear/progression etc for years now.


Edit: Just read the link in Snailish's post (#4). It calls it an "Insta-85 station cash character feature." So it looks like it can be purchased with station cash.




Edited, Jan 23rd 2014 6:11pm by hexeez
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I suppose this thread would be a good place for that classic of EQ humour, "sow plz":


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So there I was.....minding my own business in The Overthere, when all of a sudden I see the message: "d00d sow plz".

Of course, my natural instinct was not to answer, since I thought the clueless newb (hereafter referred to politely as "the petitioner") must have been poorly informed at best.

Boy was I ever wrong.

I switch out of 1st person into an external camera, and what did my wandering eyes behold? Only myself and the petitioner.

So I says to myself...."Self? You need to edumacate this fella!"

(Keep in mind what the overall setting looked like: There I was, in skeleton form, carrying a scythe, FLOATING IN MIDAIR IN A MEDITATING POSITION, with a LARGE dark-brown skeleton named "Gibober" standing behind me. Ummm....No, skippy, I'm not a druid or a shaman.)

I say "Wish I could, bro, but I don't have SoW. I'm a Necromancer."

The Petitioner says, "$#*&@#$ ****, sow me already! it's for a cr"

Feeling as if my feathers had been ruffled a bit, I do a "/who all dumbass" (um..pardon..I meant "/who all petitioner")

This is where I discovered the "/who all" bug. Certainly it must have been a bug, right? There's NO WAY IN CREATION the dumbas...err...petitioner could have been a level 31 Dark Elf Wizard, right???? RIGHT????? /em begins to cry like a little girl.

Well, needless to say, I couldn't have been any more shocked than if my pet began dancing an Irish Jig. I quickly begin the arduous task of maintaining my composure, while deciding how best to deal with this tricky situation.

I say, "Necromancer's can't cast SoW".

Petitioner says, "Bull@#$%! you cast a spell while you were running and you sped up! i couldn't catch you until you sat down! if you're not going to sow me just say so you dont have to be a **** about it a$$hole"

Yes I know....he didn't use any punctuation in that last sentence.

I say, "I have JBoots."

He says, "what are they"

Before I have a chance to pick my chin up off the floor....

Petitioner asks, "can you buff my hps my hp sux"

I say, "I can't buff you, dude. I'm a necromancer. I only have one buff that you would probably want."

He says, "yeah the one you won't give me ****"

Ok. Time to have fun with the hopelessly clueless.

I say, "Why do you need a sow?"

He says, "i need to get to burned woods to hunt. sumbody said its perfect for my level"

Yep. That's what he said......"burned woods".

I say, "man are you ever in the wrong place."

He says, "?"

Apparently he found the "question mark" key conveniently located nearby other various and sundry communication facilitators.

I didn't answer him.

He repeats, "??"

Found it twice...good for him.

He repeats, "???"

Having an IQ greater than plantlife, I sensed a pattern forming.

I say, "You are NO WHERE near Burned Woods."

He says, "my friend told me it was in kunark"

I say, "Yeah, the operative word there is 'WAS'. There was a major patch a couple of months ago after a bunch of complaints were filed about 'static content'."

He says, "?"

I say, "!"

He says, "?"

I say, ","

He says, "wtf"

I say, "no, already have some."

He says, "????"

I don't respond.

He says, "so where the @#$% is burned woods"

He lost the question mark button again. Probably popped off when he was sniffing his feet.

I say, "Well, THIS week it's south of Freeport. It changes with every patch, since they began randomizing zone locations."

My guild is hysterical at this point. And I haven't even told them the ENTIRE story yet. Just snippets.

He says, "@#$% i just got off the boat"

I say, "You don't need the boat."

He says "why"

I say, "You're a wizard!"

He says, "how you know that"

I say, "I did a /wh...nevermind....the important thing is you have teleportation spells."

He says, "oh yeah the green ones"

I nod.

I say, "Yep. The 'green ones'. Pretty nice how you have them grouped by color."

He says, "thx"

I say, "How'd you think about doing it that way?"

He says, "they were all @#$%## up when i got this char"

I say, "Sit down and mem the spell 'Fay Gate'."

He says, "why"

Question mark key is on the ground in front of your chair, guy. Mixed in with your collection of boogers.

I say, "It's going to put you within spitting distance of Burned Woods."

He says, "how do you know"

I say, "All patch messages come with a zone connection map."

He says, "oh"

I say, "Ok. You have it memmed now?"

He had just stood up after what I assumed was meditating/looking at his spell book.

He says, "yeah"

I say, "Ok. Cast the spell and let me know when you get there."

Dumba...errr....Petitioner begins to cast a spell.

A LONG time goes by.....ok, maybe 5 minutes
I still haven't heard from him.

Getting curious:

I tell petitioner, "Are you there yet?"

No reply. No reply at all. [Yes, I'm a Genesis fan... ]

Obviously he's there, or my tell wouldn't have gone through.

I tell petitioner, "Hit the 'r' key to reply to me."

He replies, "i'm here now where do i go."

Right idea....wrong punctuation mark. Oh well. "C" for effort.

I tell petitioner, "Ok, do you see a hotkey on the screen that says 'Sense Heading'?"

He replies, "no"

I reply, "Hit the arrow buttons one by one until you see one."

It was a guess, but an educated one.

He replies, "found it"

I reply, "Click on it."

He replies, "north"

I reply, "Ok, you need to head east along the path. Keep going until the path turns north. When it forks to the right, take the right fork."

He replies, "ok"

Who knows, maybe the guy who sold his account on Ebay worked his Felwithe faction up.

He replies, "sumbody told me i shouldnt be here cause i'm a dark elf"

I reply, "They were roleplaying."

He replies, "oh hehe @#$%@#$ morons ;P"

Priceless. Utterly priceless, I tell you.

I reply, "Where are you?"

He replies, "i see something now. looks like a castle"

I reply, "Run into the castle as fast as you can. The guards might give you some trouble, just keep running."

Yeah...damned conscience started kicking in.

A fairly long period of time passes. Not sure how long, but longer than I was expecting.

I tell petitioner, "What happened?"

As if I didn't know....

He replies, "my spells are gone!"

I reply, "What happened?"

He replies, "i died why"

I reply, "Oh man! Did I tell you to run east or west?"

He replies, "east wtf???"

I reply, "Yikes. My bad. You should have run west."

He replies, "?"

I reply, "So where are you now?"

He replies, "how can i tell"

I reply, "Look right after you see 'Loading please wait'. It should tell you 'You have entered [zone]'."

He replies "it doesnt say [zone] there."

After smacking my head against my monitor....

I reply, "What does it say in place of [zone]?".

Get this....

He replies, "Burning Woods"

I nearly fell out of my chair! I couldn't have PLANNED it that way!

He replies, "is that the same as burned woods"

I reply, "No, but you're close. Start running south so you can get your corpse back."

He replies, "i have to get my corpse back?????"

/ignore petitioner


Moral of the story: EBay...Just Say No!

Out of sheer curiosity, I took him off ignore later to find out what happened.

I tell petitioner, "How's it going?"

He replies, "wtf? where you been"

I reply, "been afk, sorry."

He replies, "got my corpse back. some dude rezzed me."

My conscience somewhat eased...

I reply, "Really? Cool! Where are you now?"

He replies, "iceclad ocean"

I scratch my head a few times.

I reply, "Why Velious?"

He replies, "the guy that rezzed me told me burned woods was in western wastes this week"

I don't recall exactly how long it took me to stop laughing. I stopped breathing shortly before my dog dialed 911.

He replied, "@#$%&* wouldnt sow me either. what is that sh#$ gold?"

That's what finally killed me. I'm writing this from the afterlife.

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#12 Jan 24 2014 at 8:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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LMAO Dude that is f8cking funny as hell !!!
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LMAO Dude that is f8cking funny as hell !!!


Wait till you read part 2...
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d00d sow plz Part 2

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Here comes some idiot Dark Elf running past me, running straight down
the road that is going to lead him to Felwithe. I scratch my head, and
being the nosey sort of Dwarf that I am...I send him a tell.

I tell the DE, "Wait"

DE tells me, "?"

I sigh into my ale as I take another longt draught off of it before
running up to him and saying, "Ye really don't wanna go messin around
over there with them High Elves' They look like pansies, but they aint."

The DE stands there with a vacant look on his face for a few minutes
before just running away. Do a /who on the DE and find out he's 31st
level. Ok, so maybe he knows what he's doing. I've seen Ogres in North
Freeport, after all. I go back to drinking my ale.

Out of curiosity, I send him another tell a few minutes later.

I tell the DE, "Not gettin' into any trouble over there are ye?"

DE tells me, "STFU !@#$% roleplayer"

I sigh into my ale again, finishing it off. Ah, tis the season of the
twit. I stand up and head towards Felwithe to resupply my ale.

Just as I get to the gates of the ugliest city on Norrath, what do I
find but a dead dark elf and a pair of guards snickering and cleaning
their weapons. Now this is priceless.

I do a /who on the poor soul and see he is in Burning Woods. Being the
sucker that I am, I feel compelled to rez the twit...after all, I am a
!@#$% roleplayer and I roleplay a !@#$% cleric...albeit a !@#$% grumpy
one.

I sit down to mem Reviviscene and while I am waiting for it to refresh I
send the DE a tell.

I tell the DE, "Would ye like a rez?"

DE tells me, "no i want a !@#$% sow dumbas i have to run south to get my
corpse back so dont be a **** and just sow me plz"

I look around for an ale but unfortunatly Brell hates me at this moment
in time, so I simply reply. "If I rez ya, ye wont need to run south to
yer body. You will appear at yer body. I am not standing near you, I am
standing near yer corpse."

DE tells me, "d00d rez plz"

As I sigh I look at my Holy Symbol of Brell and sigh "I'm gonna get a
stout named after me right?" and I tell the DE "Consent me so I can rez
ya" but I get no reply. No reply at all. So I say it again "Consent me
so I can rez ya"

DE tells me, "ok you can rez me"

I sit down again at this point. I have no ale and this is gonna take
awhile. I tell the DE, "Type /consent and my name" Being a smart dwarf I
tell the DE, "/consent Cleric_01" and say again "Just like that" before
he can make my head hurt more.

Sure enough, I recieve consent to drag his corpse. So I stand up and get
ready to drag the corpse when suddenly I am denied permission to drag
his corpse. I begin to think like him and I think "WTF?" So I tell the
DE, "No...just type it once. One more time. That's it. Dont type it
again" thinking that as soon as I get this over with, I can go buy more
ale and my head will stop hurting.

I recieve consent and I quickly drag it towards the zone since this is
the direction the guy was going anyway. I get the body by the zone and
cast Rez on it, comforted by the fact that I am one heal away from being
done with this guy.

The naked DE appears in front of me and I stand up to cast my final
spell of this exchange when he says to me "your that !@#%% roleplayer"
and then a moment later, almost as an afterthought "thx"

Compelled at this point, I ask "Why were you running into Felwithe when
you are KoS?"

DE says, "I was going to burned woods"

I say, "Burning Woods?"

DE says, "no dumbass i go there when i die i want to hunt burned woods"

I say, "Who told you to go hunting in Burned Woods, inside Felwithe?"

DE says, "some **** who wouldnt sow me" and then "will you sow me plz,
its for a CR"

I stand there drooling on myself for a moment, trying to catch up. I
havent had an ale in a good 20 minutes at this point, so I am starting
to see spots.

DE says, "dont be a **** just sow me before they move the zone again"

I stare at the lad and ask "Move Burned Woods? Again?"

DE says, "yea"

I finally snap and say, "They aren't going to move it again. Once they
moved it to Western Wastes, with all the snow, it stopped burning."

DE says, "i saw a burning tree"

I say, "Exactly my point. Now if they would only move Burning Woods
there it would stop too and people wouldn't go there when they die."

DE says, "can you sow me, its for CR"

I say, "sow doesnt work in IC until you get past EW and then it will
work for CR's only until you get to WW, then ask the first person you
see for sow there." I add as an afterthought "Sometimes they look like
flying blue things but they can sow"

DE says, "wtf???"

I say, "Allow me to use smaller words. You do not need a sow yet. Do
what I say and you'll get there right away." and then "Sit down and mem
the spell Bind Affinity"

DE is silent for a bit and finally says "its red" as he is standing up

I say, "I am glad they covered Colors this week. Now target yourself and
cast this spell. " He just stands there for a minute, so I add "it will
r0ck" and he begins to cast the spell, binding himself behind the guards
at Felwithe. I feel somewhat better already, maybe I dont need ale.

DE says, "it said bound" and begins to giggle

I say, "Now sit down and mem the spell Iceclad Gate. This will r0ck even
more."

DE says, "this one is green"

I say, "You're damn good at those colors man"

DE says, "thx"

When the DE stands up I say "This is going to take you to Iceclad Ocean.
It's an ocean so that's why they moved Burned Woods there....to put it
out."

DE says, "what about sow"

I say, "Remember that sow wont work until you are on a CR in WW. In fact
you actually run faster in snow if you set the RUN button to WALK. Do
that now."

DE says, "ok"

I say, "Now cast Iceclad Gate....the Green one. Remember to run straight
out of where you appear and dont stop swimming until you hit Burned
Woods."

DE begins to cast a spell and I zone in to get my ale....remembering
that the Ignore list cures most headaches that ale cant and feeling
somewhat better about going back to Sebilis.
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As a new returnee, I would love to bypass the early levels. Been there done that.
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d00d sow plz Part 2

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Absolutely f&$%ing priceless....thank you for that share... Smiley: bowdown
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Haha,
Hilarious experience Nekokirei.

I must say you have patience of steel and held your nerve well, next to me in that type of situation..

The minute "Mr.Petitioner" called me a **** etc I would have had a sudden mood swing and would have verbally reciprocated and left him to himself.

I expect and hope that we don't see too many insta-85's with similar attitudes.


Edited, Jan 24th 2014 11:20am by hexeez
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As a new returnee, I would love to bypass the early levels. Been there done that.


I never understand that. If you're returning the lower levels are a good way to re-learn the game, and it doesn't really take very long to level up under present conditions. Further considering the size of Norrath and all the zones to level in, you really don't have to do the same stuff you did before all over again.

The irony is if you come back focused primarily on the raiding game, then even at 85, with presumably low AA's, you've got MORE leveling work to do to get to real raiding than you would have to go from 1-85. There aren't many SERIOUS raiding guilds that include level 85s in their raid force, no matter how skilled they are. And if they're unskilled because they were born at 85, good luck finding guilds that are eager to have level 85 noobs wiping their raid force.
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Yes, I do realize that at 85 I would still have much leveling to do. Still, I would rather start at 85 than at 1. I have a smattering of level 40-65's, the latter in top end raid gear from the era. I guess a realistic scenario would be that the 65's will easily be 85+ by the time heroic chars become available given the leveling speed these days. It's just that I'm bored with early content. Time to suck it up and level I guess. Smiley: lol
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Haha,
Hilarious experience Nekokirei.

I must say you have patience of steel and held your nerve well, next to me in that type of situation..

The minute "Mr.Petitioner" called me a **** etc I would have had a sudden mood swing and would have verbally reciprocated and left him to himself.

I expect and hope that we don't see too many insta-85's with similar attitudes.


Edited, Jan 24th 2014 11:20am by hexeez


Appreciate the Kudos Hex but that's not my original work -- that's at least 8 years old, if not older.
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Nekokirei wrote:
Appreciate the Kudos Hex but that's not my original work -- that's at least 8 years old, if not older.


Oopse, my bad.
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I love that you will be able to buy an instant lvl 85. This will be a good way to combat what is going on with plat/krono sales right now due to PL's hording the plat and kronos.

Let's face it.. there are just as many bad lvl 100 players that leveled the hard way versus bad players that got a PL to 85.
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Except that anyone who'd pay that kind of cash for PLs up to level 85 will almost certainly continue to pay for them to get up to 100. I've seen lots of people sending out requests for PLs at levels that I find kinda absurd. I think it's silly, but never underestimate the desire of some people to make things "easy", and for others to charge them for it.
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nekokirei wrote:

Appreciate the Kudos Hex but that's not my original work -- that's at least 8 years old, if not older.


Pretty sure it's pre Luclin like the "EQ in Denny's" and "Fansy the bard" tales (to name a few).
#25 Jan 24 2014 at 4:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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EQ Denny's -- that's one I have thought of in a while.

I <3 Fansy.
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#26 Jan 26 2014 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I heard on eq 2 an instant level 85 toon is 3500 station cash which is $35.00, which may not be a lot of money to some people,

but to me it is I can eat a week off that. If I am paying that much not ony better the toon be level 85 it better have level

apporiate gear along with it and 4000 or 4500 aa minimum. What good will a 85 level toon be with no gear 0 aa or maybe 300

can we say gimp, I know can grind aa but kind of hard if 0 at level 85 especially if need to tank, melee or dps. just my two cents

worth.

Edited, Jan 26th 2014 2:19am by eqlovez1
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