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#1 May 08 2012 at 4:47 AM Rating: Good
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LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
You have entered Denny's.
You say, 'Hail Denny's hostess'
Denny's hostess says 'Hello, Tyranadin. Welcome to Denny's. [Smoking] or [non-smoking]?'
You say, 'non-smoking'
You say, 'I would like non-smoking please'
You say, 'what about non-smoking'
Denny's hostess says 'Right this way, please.'
You are out of food and drink.
Erlen shouts, 'has anyone seen the waiter?'
Daegarmo shouts, 'no and ive been camping him for a half hour'
You are out of food and drink.
Ester shouts, 'I see him'
Erlen shouts, 'dont kill him, i still have to do the order quest'
You are hungry.
You are thirsty.
You are out of food and drink.
You say, 'Hail Denny's waiter'
Denny's waiter says 'Hello, Tyranadin. You look like you could use some [coffee]'
You say, 'Yes I'll have some coffee'
You say, 'what about coffee'
Denny's waiter says 'Ah, excellent! We have [regular] and [decaf].'
You say, 'I will have some decaf'
You say, 'what about decaf'
You say, 'what about decaffeinated coffee'
Denny's waiter says 'I expected nothing less of you. Here, take this.'
You gain experience!
Your faction standing with Juan Valdez got better
You drink your coffee.
You were hit by non-melee for 39 dmg
YOU are burning!
You shout, 'Ow hehe this coffee's hot'
Kyrani shouts, 'Haha u sux0r'
You are hungry.
You are out of food.
Annoying kid says 'Pikachuuuuuu'
Annoying kid tries to hit YOU, but misses!
Annoying kid tries to hit YOU, but misses!
Annoying kid hits YOU for 3 points of damage.
Auto-attack on.
You hit Annoying kid for 17 points of damage.
You hit Annoying kid for 22 points of damage.
You have slain Annoying kid!
Your faction standing with Disciplineless Mothers got worse
Your faction standing with Denny's Customers got better
Your faction standing with The World at Large got better
Annoying kid's corpse0 says 'My mother will avenge my death!'
You receive 3 copper as your split.
You are hungry.
You are out of food.
Disciplineless mother says 'Your actions and history are a personal affront to all I stand for.'
Disciplineless mother begins casting a spell.
Disciplineless mother pet is enveloped in flames.
Off-duty police officer says 'Hey! No pets in the building!'
Disciplineless mother pet hits YOU for 18 points of damage.
Off-duty police officer hits Disciplineless mother for 287 points of damage.
Off-duty police officer hits Disciplineless mother for 234 points of damage.
Off-duty police officer kicks Disciplineless mother for 27 points of damage.
Disciplineless mother is slain by Off-duty police officer!
Disciplineless mother pet hits YOU for 12 points of damage.
Off-duty police officer hits Disciplineless mother pet for 262 points of damage.
Off-duty police officer was burned.
Disciplineless mother pet is slain by Off-duty police officer!
Off-duty police officer says 'Let this be a lesson, that none can withstand the wrath of the San Diego Department of Public Safety.'
You are hungry.
You are out of food.
You say, 'Hail Denny's waiter'
Denny's waiter says 'Can I get you some more [coffee]?'
You say, 'No, I want to place my order'
You say, 'Can I place my order?'
You say, 'Let me place my order dammit!'
Denny's waiter says 'Ah, would you like to try our [Grand Slam Breakfast]?'
You say, 'I will have the grand slam breakfast'
Denny's waiter says 'How would you like your [eggs]?'
You say, 'scrambled'
You say, 'I would like them scrambled'
You say, 'what about eggs'
Denny's waiter says 'You can have [scrambled eggs] or [fried eggs].'
You say, 'I will have scrambled eggs'
Denny's waiter says 'Excellent, would you like anything to drink? Some [orange juice], perhaps?'
You say, 'I will have orange juice'
You say, 'what about orange juice'
Denny's waiter says 'Our orange juice is fresh squeezed from concentrate.'
You say, 'give me orange juice'
Denny's waiter says 'Okay, I'll be right back with your orange juice.'
You gain experience!
You are hungry.
You are out of food.
Gordon shouts, 'Attention, your bacon is now raw, because fully-cooked bacon lacks the inherent risks associated with our Vision of Bacon.'
Valshire shouts, 'Wait a minute, this bacon hasn't been cooked for months'
Gordon shouts, 'Uhh... yes it has.'
Tunso shouts, 'You kidding? We've been complaining about this stuff being raw for ages'
Gordon shouts, 'Uh, whatever.'
Gordon shouts, 'Oh.'
Gordon shouts, 'uh.... I've just been informed that the bacon has been raw for several months now, but we were unable to determine this until we fixed a bug with the pancakes, which were previously large enough to obscure the bacon.'
Gordon shouts, '... Oh, yeah, we nerfed your pancakes too.'
Denny's waiter says 'Here is your breakfast, Tyranadin.'
You gain experience!
Your faction standing with Denny's Customers got worse
Scrambled eggs looks at you threateningly - what would you like your tombstone to say?
You taste your eggs.
You are chilled to the bone.
You shout, 'oh man my eggs are cold'
Tunso shouts, 'petition a manager then'
You petition, 'my scrambled eggs are cold'
Raynara shouts, 'Ack train to restroom!!!'
Aikbach says, 'Cailleach, I still can't believe you can eat this stuff'
Denny's waiter says 'Here is your breakfast, Cailleach.'
Cailleach begins to cast a spell.
Cailleach is protected from poison.
Cailleach says, 'I always come prepared'
You shout, 'Man, where's the manager'
Kyrani shouts, 'Haha u pteitond a managr u sux0r'
Napoca tells you, 'Greetings, Tyranadin, I am Napoca, the Denny's manager. How can I assist you?'
You tell Napoca, 'my scrambled eggs are cold'
Napoca tells you, 'I will be with you as soon as possible, please stay patient'
You sip your coffee.
A cool breeze slips through your mind.
Napoca says, 'Greetings, Tyranadin. Are your eggs still cold?'
You say, 'yes'
Napoca begins to cast a spell.
Scrambled eggs burst into flame.
Napoca says, 'Take care'
Elionia says, 'Ack, I don't feel so well'
Elionia begins to cast a spell.
Alka-Seltzer staggers.
Elionia staggers.
Elionia beams a smile at Alka-Seltzer.
Elionia says, 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
Denny's waiter says 'Here, let me clear that away for you.'
You say, 'Hey, wait, that's my food, I'm not done yet....'
You shout, 'Hey, this waiter took my food'
Erlen shouts, 'Yep, they do that sometimes if you let your food sit there'
You say, 'Hail Denny's waiter'
Denny's waiter says 'Hello there, Tyranadin, how can I help you?'
You say, 'Check please'
Denny's waiter says 'Okay, here you go.'
You gain experience!
You say, 'Hail Denny's cashier'
Denny's cashier says 'Hello there, would you like to pay your [check]?'
You say, 'Yes I want to pay my check'
You say, 'what about my check'
Denny's cashier says 'You must give me the check before I can reveal more to you.'
Denny's cashier says 'Ah, excellent! Would you like to know your [total]?'
You gain experience!
Your faction standing with Denny's Cashiers got better
You say, 'what is my total'
Denny's cashier says 'Your total is 6 gold, 7 silver, 9 copper. Will you be paying with a [MasterCard]?'
You say, 'yes I will use a mastercard'
Denny's cashier says 'Unfortunately your MasterCard is over-limit. Would you prefer to pay with [cash]?'
Your faction standing with MasterCard got worse
Your faction standing with Cheesy-*** High-Interest-Rate Credit Card Companies got better
You say, 'yes I will pay with cash'
Denny's cashier says 'Your total is 6 gold, 7 silver, 9 copper then.'
You gain experience!
You receive 2 silver.
You receive 1 copper.
Denny's waiter says 'You have stiffed me on my tip for the last time!'
Denny's waiter crushes YOU for 217 points of damage!
Denny's waiter crushes YOU for 204 points of damage!
Denny's waiter hits YOU for 226 points of damage!
Denny's waiter tries to hit YOU, but misses!
Denny's waiter bashes YOU for 74 points of damage!
You are stunned.
Denny's waiter crushes YOU for 189 points of damage!
You are bleeding to death!
Denny's waiter crushes YOU for 221 points of damage!
You have been slain by Denny's waiter!
You are no longer stunned.
LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
You have entered Verant.
You shout, 'Can I get a SOW? My corpse is all the way over in Denny's'
Kyrani shouts, 'Haha u sux0r'
#2 May 08 2012 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
heh heh... "You have entered Verant. "

I wonder how many actually remember this?
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#3 May 08 2012 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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/raises hand

Now how many remember Fansy the bard? That still cracks me up to this day.
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#4 May 08 2012 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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Sippin wrote:
/raises hand

Now how many remember Fansy the bard? That still cracks me up to this day.




Lol at the story, I would stiff the waiter at dennys too. Last time i was there it was god awful.

EDIT: Whoops thinking of somoene else, not fansy. Was thinking of Venthos.
http://vazaellecommunitycenter.yuku.com/topic/362/Venthos-was-banned-forever?page=1#.T6lojetYvkU

Edited, May 8th 2012 2:35pm by TouchinMyself

Edited, May 8th 2012 2:44pm by TouchinMyself
#5 May 08 2012 at 3:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sippin wrote:
/raises hand

Now how many remember Fansy the bard? That still cracks me up to this day.


Fansy is a good example of the difference between SoE and me.

I would have hired him as a dev. Fansy out-thought a lot of people to create that trail of chaos.

I certainly would have done a hardcore heritage event around the old oasis zone as an instanced mission where you have to kill Fansy before he train-kills you.


The Denny's post I have seen before. Probably should be edited to reveal the source...
#6 May 08 2012 at 4:36 PM Rating: Default
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snailish wrote:
Sippin wrote:
/raises hand

Now how many remember Fansy the bard? That still cracks me up to this day.


Fansy is a good example of the difference between SoE and me.

I would have hired him as a dev. Fansy out-thought a lot of people to create that trail of chaos.

I certainly would have done a hardcore heritage event around the old oasis zone as an instanced mission where you have to kill Fansy before he train-kills you.


The Denny's post I have seen before. Probably should be edited to reveal the source...


You would have hired a guy with 0 programming skills and experience as a dev? That would work out well for you.

All fansy really did was take advantage of the level limitation for PVP. There was nothing special to it at all. Cant attack someone under level 6 so he stayed level 5 and used selos to train others. The later exploits of fansy with the PoD was a well known exploit he just heard about and used to wreak carnage on the PVP server.

It was pretty funny but theres nothing special about what he did at all, certainly nothing to qualify him for any job.
#7 May 08 2012 at 4:57 PM Rating: Excellent
Sippin wrote:
/raises hand

Now how many remember Fansy the bard? That still cracks me up to this day.


You need to use his proper name. He is/was 'Fansy the FAMOUS Bard'. Smiley: tongue

snailish wrote:
Fansy is a good example of the difference between SoE and me.

I would have hired him as a dev. Fansy out-thought a lot of people to create that trail of chaos.

I certainly would have done a hardcore heritage event around the old oasis zone as an instanced mission where you have to kill Fansy before he train-kills you.


Actually, Fansy is a good example of how the times have changed. Nowadays, he would be hired as a dev. The precedent in EQ was set with John Capozzi (aka Kendrick) who was a particularly hardcore player in beta (and probably the best rogue in EQ at the time) who was hired by 989/Verant shortly thereafter and became quite the designer (if you remember the original/working Ring of Fire in Acrylia, the first Chardok revamp (adding random loot drops, etc), and the Velketor's Labyrinth revamp, and if you were a rogue (thanks John for evade), then you know John Capozzi's work). Nowadays, many (if not 'most') MMO developers actively hire from their community. But that wasn't common 10+ years ago.

Examples include:

- Lum the Mad (Scott Jennings, who has worked for several MMO developers including Mythic and now NCSoft)
- Tweety (Sanya Weathers, who was most famous in EQ for her rant blog and became DAoC's Community Manager before becoming EA Mythic's director of community sadly around the time of Warhammer's development & release)
- Borticus (Jeremy Randall, formerly the co-host of one of the longest running podcasts for Star Trek Online (STOked). They hired him on the spot when he and Chris went to Cryptic's offices to do a live show)

Happens all the time nowadays. But back then, it was still very much developer vs player(s). Heck, my development job (granted, for a small indy developer specializing in text based sports management sims) came exactly the same way.

We've had some characters in EQ too. I mean, everyone remembers Furor and Thott and Tigole but remember The Quon? Or Sam Deathwalker (24 b0xxor r0xxor)?

Edited, May 8th 2012 6:58pm by Remianen

Edited, May 8th 2012 6:59pm by Remianen
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Remianen wrote:
Sippin wrote:
/raises hand

Now how many remember Fansy the bard? That still cracks me up to this day.


You need to use his proper name. He is/was 'Fansy the FAMOUS Bard'. Smiley: tongue

snailish wrote:
Fansy is a good example of the difference between SoE and me.

I would have hired him as a dev. Fansy out-thought a lot of people to create that trail of chaos.

I certainly would have done a hardcore heritage event around the old oasis zone as an instanced mission where you have to kill Fansy before he train-kills you.


Actually, Fansy is a good example of how the times have changed. Nowadays, he would be hired as a dev. The precedent in EQ was set with John Capozzi (aka Kendrick) who was a particularly hardcore player in beta (and probably the best rogue in EQ at the time) who was hired by 989/Verant shortly thereafter and became quite the designer (if you remember the original/working Ring of Fire in Acrylia, the first Chardok revamp (adding random loot drops, etc), and the Velketor's Labyrinth revamp, and if you were a rogue (thanks John for evade), then you know John Capozzi's work). Nowadays, many (if not 'most') MMO developers actively hire from their community. But that wasn't common 10+ years ago.

Examples include:

- Lum the Mad (Scott Jennings, who has worked for several MMO developers including Mythic and now NCSoft)
- Tweety (Sanya Weathers, who was most famous in EQ for her rant blog and became DAoC's Community Manager before becoming EA Mythic's director of community sadly around the time of Warhammer's development & release)
- Borticus (Jeremy Randall, formerly the co-host of one of the longest running podcasts for Star Trek Online (STOked). They hired him on the spot when he and Chris went to Cryptic's offices to do a live show)

Happens all the time nowadays. But back then, it was still very much developer vs player(s). Heck, my development job (granted, for a small indy developer specializing in text based sports management sims) came exactly the same way.

We've had some characters in EQ too. I mean, everyone remembers Furor and Thott and Tigole but remember The Quon? Or Sam Deathwalker (24 b0xxor r0xxor)?

Edited, May 8th 2012 6:58pm by Remianen

Edited, May 8th 2012 6:59pm by Remianen


The one thing you fail to realize is that all those you listed had experience in the fields they where hired into and they actually contributed something. Fansy being able to train hill giants is nothing even remotely like what those guys brought to the table. I see what you're saying to an extent but its like saying that because Apple hired the iphone hacker comex it would make sense to hire some random guy because he is really good at making crank calls from his iphone.

Fansy was funny but he offered nothing of value to the community or game so why would you hire him on? On top of that its not like what he did took skill or cunning. Hell it was common practice back then on SZ for people to get mad because they got ganked and make a lowbie to train the gankers all fansy did is make a full time gig of it and go for attention.

Had he done something special or unique and got around the games design to do it that would be something but training hill giants and using the VERY well known bug to use the PoD to kill was nothing special.
#9 May 08 2012 at 6:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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IF Fansy had been on a regular server he'd be scum.

He was on the "no rules" pvp server and caused several changes to the game. Not because he was the only one messing with PoD... because he did it publicly with style. He knew how to hype himself sure, and he was creative.

Harnessed for good he might have offered up some interesting things... certainly concept-wise for PVP alone he could have potentially made that ruleset more appealling long term. Or maybe he was just a self-absorbed prankster that never could have contributed to a team... shrugs.

#10 May 08 2012 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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snailish wrote:
IF Fansy had been on a regular server he'd be scum.

He was on the "no rules" pvp server and caused several changes to the game. Not because he was the only one messing with PoD... because he did it publicly with style. He knew how to hype himself sure, and he was creative.

Harnessed for good he might have offered up some interesting things... certainly concept-wise for PVP alone he could have potentially made that ruleset more appealling long term. Or maybe he was just a self-absorbed prankster that never could have contributed to a team... shrugs.



I might agree with you if he actually... you know... PVPd. Why would you think someone whose whole thing was staying under level cap to avoid PVP would have interesting concepts for PVP?!?

I think hes been placed on a pedestal that he dont deserve. Frankly as funny as it is he basically just trolled the whole server. If this where WoW he would have just been another in a long list just like him.
#11 May 08 2012 at 10:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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The one thing you fail to realize is that all those you listed had experience in the fields they where hired into and they actually contributed something. Fansy being able to train hill giants is nothing even remotely like what those guys brought to the table. I see what you're saying to an extent but its like saying that because Apple hired the iphone hacker comex it would make sense to hire some random guy because he is really good at making crank calls from his iphone.


Uh, no they didn't. Where on Jeremy's resume does 'systems designer' show up? Why did Heretic have to teach him EVERYTHING when he was hired on?

You might be under the mistaken assumption that game designers have to know programming or code. They most certainly do not. It helps, but it's not a requirement. Most development houses have their own custom tools inhouse so even your experience with one developer isn't going to give you a leg up when you move to another. People with passion for your project (which you can't teach) and an ability to give you a different perspective on the mechanics you're designing (again, can't teach that) have value as members of a dev team. Heck, EQLive has (or had) a handful of devs who were useless in that they didn't really like the game and so they couldn't come up with anything particularly good for it. But they could warm a seat and do what they were told so they remained employed. Tell me, which would you rather have creating stuff for a game you like? I'm not saying Fansy would've been an awesome dev or anything. But he blew the doors off what was at the time a pretty gaping hole in the game mechanics. As you alluded to, you hire hackers to firm up your security and likewise, you hire exploiters to find/close exploits. He wouldn't be the worst dev ever, that's for sure.
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Remianen wrote:
TouchinMyself wrote:
The one thing you fail to realize is that all those you listed had experience in the fields they where hired into and they actually contributed something. Fansy being able to train hill giants is nothing even remotely like what those guys brought to the table. I see what you're saying to an extent but its like saying that because Apple hired the iphone hacker comex it would make sense to hire some random guy because he is really good at making crank calls from his iphone.


Uh, no they didn't. Where on Jeremy's resume does 'systems designer' show up? Why did Heretic have to teach him EVERYTHING when he was hired on?

You might be under the mistaken assumption that game designers have to know programming or code. They most certainly do not. It helps, but it's not a requirement. Most development houses have their own custom tools inhouse so even your experience with one developer isn't going to give you a leg up when you move to another. People with passion for your project (which you can't teach) and an ability to give you a different perspective on the mechanics you're designing (again, can't teach that) have value as members of a dev team. Heck, EQLive has (or had) a handful of devs who were useless in that they didn't really like the game and so they couldn't come up with anything particularly good for it. But they could warm a seat and do what they were told so they remained employed. Tell me, which would you rather have creating stuff for a game you like? I'm not saying Fansy would've been an awesome dev or anything. But he blew the doors off what was at the time a pretty gaping hole in the game mechanics. As you alluded to, you hire hackers to firm up your security and likewise, you hire exploiters to find/close exploits. He wouldn't be the worst dev ever, that's for sure.


First off, he didnt say game designer he said DEV and to be a game dev you have to know code, period... Designer != Developer

Second, Even as a game designer i would think you would look for more than some troll who trains people for fun. Im failing to see how you guys are connecting the two. i would like to see how this conversation would go down. SOE guy A: "We have a player who has never made it past level 5 and seen no content at all and for fun trains people and kills them" SOE guy B: "Hire him on as a designer im sure he has some great ideas!"

Third, System designer is not a profession its a job title. Its a fancy title for someone that comes up with ideas for things. Of course he would have to be taught how to work with what they have etc. a 20 year game designer would have to be taught the same. As someone who has worked in the MMO field as long as he has hes more than qualified for the job and has a better understanding of MMO mechanics than 95% of MMO players ever will...

This is simple nostalgia and its rose colored glasses taking over. He didnt do anything special. He trolled a ton of people caused a ton of trouble and in the end got a few laughs for it. Your comparison between hiring hackers and hiring him makes no sense whatsoever. If he had been the one to find the exploit it might make some sense but it was well known long before that, SOE just did nothing about it because it was seemingly harmless. Yes security firms hire hackers and for good reason, they dont hire pranksters that leave flaming poo on their steps.

Nothing but nostalgia taking over and putting a clown on a pedestal.

Now venthos on the other hand a case could be made for. He found quite a few exploits and used them to both give him and his guild an advantage and to terrorize people. He found a way to change the color of peoples gear, found exploits to get through walls, exploits to take raid bosses without them being able to hit anyone etc. thats the kind of guy you hire, not one that just uses exploits everyone knows about.
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Getting too technical LOL

Fansy the Famous Bard was memorable because of how he wrote up and commented on what he did. I don't know about calling him scum! He wasn't "just" a griefer. Remember his motivating philosophy was to drive evils out of XP zones so goods could expand from the few bastions left to them. Like most PvP servers, Sullon Zek was heavily dominated by evils at the time, I seem to remember that over 75% of XP zones were in their "evil hands."

What made his exploits all the more memorable is that he didn't grief anyone in the sense that he broke rules. What he did was entirely within the rather "generous" ruleset of SZ. The fact that a level 5 toon could do things which forces Verant actually to change the ruleset was also a memorable achievement in my mind.

Do a Google search on Fansy, I believe his original posts, complete with screenshots, are still somewhere on the web. You can't possibly read some of that dialogue and not LOL.
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Sippin wrote:
Getting too technical LOL

Fansy the Famous Bard was memorable because of how he wrote up and commented on what he did. I don't know about calling him scum! He wasn't "just" a griefer. Remember his motivating philosophy was to drive evils out of XP zones so goods could expand from the few bastions left to them. Like most PvP servers, Sullon Zek was heavily dominated by evils at the time, I seem to remember that over 75% of XP zones were in their "evil hands."

What made his exploits all the more memorable is that he didn't grief anyone in the sense that he broke rules. What he did was entirely within the rather "generous" ruleset of SZ. The fact that a level 5 toon could do things which forces Verant actually to change the ruleset was also a memorable achievement in my mind.

Do a Google search on Fansy, I believe his original posts, complete with screenshots, are still somewhere on the web. You can't possibly read some of that dialogue and not LOL.


^this.

Besides, for all we know Fansy the FAMOUS bard grew up and became Piestro.
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I was really hoping that this forum had grown up past the "He has a different opinion than me rate him down!" mentality but clearly it has not. And you guys wonder why even though the community is thriving these forums are still dead as hell... Everyone who ever had an interest here was ran off by the closed clicky community this used to be. Its better but this throwing around karma over a disagreement is part of the overall problem.

You guys are ignorantly putting a troll on a pedestal and jumping on someone who disagrees. Guys like fansy are a dime a dozen in WoW.

He was just a griefer, nothing more. Talk to people that actually played when he did, good guys went down in his path just about as often as evil. He didnt care, as long as he got a reaction from it people died. Just because he made some clever stories and a site to go with his exploits it dont change that he was just a troll in fact it confirms it. Go look at the crap he pulled with the PoD bug, it was ALL in rivervale... This whole claim that he was doing it for good like some robin hood was just a story, nothing more. He killed both sides all the same.

Edited, May 9th 2012 3:35pm by TouchinMyself
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TouchinMyself wrote:
I was really hoping that this forum had grown up past the "He has a different opinion than me rate him down!" mentality but clearly it has not. And you guys wonder why even though the community is thriving these forums are still dead as hell... Everyone who ever had an interest here was ran off by the closed clicky community this used to be. Its better but this throwing around karma over a disagreement is part of the overall problem.

You guys are ignorantly putting a troll on a pedestal and jumping on someone who disagrees. Guys like fansy are a dime a dozen in WoW.

He was just a griefer, nothing more. Talk to people that actually played when he did, good guys went down in his path just about as often as evil. He didnt care, as long as he got a reaction from it people died. Just because he made some clever stories and a site to go with his exploits it dont change that he was just a troll in fact it confirms it. Go look at the crap he pulled with the PoD bug, it was ALL in rivervale... This whole claim that he was doing it for good like some robin hood was just a story, nothing more. He killed both sides all the same.

Edited, May 9th 2012 3:35pm by TouchinMyself


You raise some interesting points here. I haven't rated you down at all and here and I'm obviously on the record of having some fondness towards Fansy (or at least his/her storytelling).

I do think Fansy the FAMOUS bard has the winning argument of "It was supposed to be no rules pvp". They hard-coded the teams and the rest was supposed to be sort it our yourselves.

The fix for Sullon Zek should have been "you aggro a mob under level 6 you are now Player Killable". Risk while in combat... safe to newbie travel (as long as you avoid aggro). That's all ancient history now though.
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Amazing to me that anyone would complain about griefing years ago on the SULLON ZEK server. If you played there you pretty much expected (or should have expected) that griefing was gonna happen, the Sony GMs would stay out of it, explaining that on this particular server players were supposed to use their own resources to deal with conflict.

Oh how my illusions have been shattered by some posters in this thread! Fansy the Famous Bard has gone from being a ribald and clever Robin Hood to a combination of Blackbeard, Atilla the Hun and Ghenghis Khan all rolled into one!

I just gonna wonder if certain people had found their corpses on the underside of some sand giant boots many years ago and haven't forgotten the discomfort and embarassment. LOL
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