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#1 Jan 19 2010 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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Just found this Shadowspike Arrow https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=72062 . Can this be used in your ammo slot with the AA Endless Quiver? Only needing one arrow, this would be a huge boost in damage. The highest arrow I knew of was CLASS 7 Drakebone Drakespike Arrow (Range 125)https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/recipe.html?recipe=7048 Big Difference between Damage 13 vs 50.
Has anyone tried this?
I am starting to craft one tonight but if you can’t use as an arrow in ammo slot, please save me the time. Specially becasue my fletching is only 250 and would have to craft a lot before I could attempt it.

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Edited, Jan 19th 2010 4:46pm by Vinney
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#2 Jan 19 2010 at 9:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well it does say ammo slot, it has damage and range so I would think it can be used.
#3 Jan 19 2010 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
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EQ doesn't work on that particular one, and they're tradeskilled via the SoF tradeskill quest. And as Arrow damage isn't calculated as straight damage, it's not as huge improvement as you'd think. Parses with 46ish dmg bows, show only a 15-20% dps increase between the 2 arrows listed, where the total dmg if the arrow dmg was pure, is around 90%.

However with that said, I've heard of some players that keep stacks of them just for specific raid mobs for the increased dps.

Also, there is at least one thread on the Sony sight about the need to fix the way arrow damage is calculated, and make more non-EQ high dmg arrows, but they haven't figured out a way to implement the arrow dmg to make it viable yet. If I get some time, I'll see if I can find the thread, and edit it later.

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#4 Jan 20 2010 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
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In order to make arrow damage viable, they need to put a minimum damage on arrows.

The constant misses and trivial hits (like crits for 2) are what brings archery dps down.

Minimum damage is why archery works in WoW, but not in EQ.
#5 Jan 20 2010 at 1:01 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks Yther,
That was the info I was looking for....I will wait to get higher befor considering. if I could get 50 damage I would take the chance...lot of effort for one arrow.
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#6 Jan 20 2010 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent

Arrows in the game stagnated because of the addition of Endless Quiver. Rangers only needed one of any kind of arrow and never ran out. That stopped the devs from adding higher damage arrows (or arrows with other special features like one that explodes into a DD when it hits the mob.)

So Ngreth had the tag expendable added. That means that the arrow is not affected by the Endless Quiver AA. Now he's able to make higher damage arrows without the fear of rangers becoming horribly over powered because they had an infinite supply of them.

As Yther notes, there are some issues with the arrow damage, which I think has kept them from more fully utilizing the expendable option.
#7 Jan 20 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Default
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Could they not controll this like other items or spells. IE: can not use certian spell but only on human form. No animals or undead. The only thing then that really controls dmg is the bow. I am not saying add 50 dmg to an arrow. but the arrow head should be a bigger dmg control then the bow. IMO
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