UF = "low Undead"Follow

We would like to know if Paladins would be interested in a significant reduction in the power of Slay Undead that was accompanied by a boost in base DPS. Our current parses show that Shadow Knights, using Pets and Spells and Melee far out damage Paladins. We'd be looking to close that gap, but not while Slay provides a 75% increase to base Melee DPS versus undead content.

So the options are:
A) Leave it alone, but can't boost Paladin DPS
B ) Change Slay, and then have the freedom to change other aspects of Paladin DPS

You can assume that the "Change" option would involve creating, to the best of our ability, more parity between the Knights DPS.

Slay has been parsed at something closer to a 20% increase over time, not 75% increase. Our 'standard' DPS is the worst in the game, I believe. Most of us will have found ways around it - bots, undead grinds, clicky boosts - so why trade away the one enjoyable aspect of our class? If I wanted to play an SK, with taps etc, I'm literate enough to hit the 'sk' button on the character select screen....

The devs have already shown in the new expansion that they can just mix undead and live to reign in us pesky paladins. Are they going to fix that so we have a solo path again? Not a chance. What's the max we can do in a 30 min LotD against undead? About 7 or 8 AAs? I've never managed that total, I'm talking top end people. Rangers with headshot are doing 15, mages and wizards pick a number they like and stop when they reach it. Why are we being targetted like this?

I agree. NO to everything that involves changing Slay. I don't care if they never increase the slay % - we will get bigger and better weapons that automatically slay for more.

Anyway, how precisely will they up our DPS? Some nukes to run us out of mana quick, so we can't heal. A stealth nerf, it'll be.

In the Age of Scale we arrived. The scaled beasts of the Dragon Queen ruled the surface and skies. All else belonged to our people. By Brell Serilis' hand were we created and delivered to the Underfoot of Norrath. As the number of our ancestors grew, so too did the power of our ancient shamans. Tribes began to form and territories became disputed. For ages, the blood flowed and the powers of stone and steel were discovered.

In the Time of Scale a powerful shaman, gifted by Brell with the insight needed to unite the ancient tribes, rose to power. Under the guidance of King Gkar the ancients developed new techniques of forging ore, replacing old tools with new. Brell's most devoted kobolds refined shamanistic rituals to harness the powers of the Plane of Underfoot, blessing the miners with divine strength and speed and resistances to the harsh volcanic and frozen regions of their subterranean world. The united ancient tribes constructed a city for their king. The capitol of Kolbolk was constructed and many monuments where erected to King Gkar and his patron, Brell Serilis.

It was during King Gkar's reign when Brell Serilis decided that he alone could not break Veeshan's grasp on the world of Norrath. Brell met with Tunare, Prexus and Rallos Zek and told them of Veeshan's new world. Brell kept the source of his information about the new world a secret as he made a pact with the gathered gods. They agreed they would assist Brell in releasing the world from Veeshan only if Norrath was divided equally among them. Brell's greed overcame him and he decided to keep our people a secret and created a new race called Dwarf.

Brell had not anticipated the attentiveness of his peers, especially the Warlord, Rallos Zek. Mostly out of fear of the Warlord's wrath for his deception, Brell turned his back on our people leaving our King without guidance and our shamans powerless with prayers unanswered. King Gkar fell into despair as his people and his kingdom crumbled around him. King Gkar died with no successor and our people were thrust into chaos. The howls of our people echoed throughout the caverns of Norrath as we defiled the monuments devoted to the God who abandoned us.

Three hundred years later after the fall of King Gkar, Brell recognized the opportunity to form a second pact, thus allowing him to strengthen his hold on the subterranean lands. This time Fizzlethorpe, Cazic Thule and Rallos Zek agreed to the pact. Brell created the Gnomes and placed them near to the lands of the Dwarves. The societies of the Gnomes and Dwarves expanded rapidly at this time and we kobolds, now reduced to a tribal people, inevitably discovered the kingdoms of the younger races. Recognizing the monuments erected by the short folk as being devoted to Brell, we kobolds were enraged and a great bloody war began beneath the surface of Norrath.

The surface races, consumed in their own war against the races of Rallos Zek, paid little heed to the turmoil beneath the surface. So mighty were the mortal forces of Zek that the other Gods also overlooked the subterranean war but Rallos Zek, confident in his forces' might and innately attracted to warfare and bloodshed, silently watched the developing conflict and chuckled at the bloody result of Brell's folly and deception. Seeing the opportunity to strengthen his forces and gain a strong grip on the subterranean realms, Rallos Zek appeared before our people.

As Rallos walked among us, he gazed into our souls, seeking the one with the most rage, the strongest will and the most disciplined mind. Rallos found what he sought within an elderly shaman whose years of powerlessness has fed his despair and resentment of Brell and the short ones. His heart had turned black and his spirit was at the brink of decaying into oblivion. Rallos swept the elderly shaman into his plane and yanked the remnants of the shaman's spirit from his body, replacing it with a bit of the Warlord's own life. Rallos then forged the despair-ridden soul into a sword for his new demi-god: Rolfron Zek, the Lord of Despair.

Its sad when people can't see past the end of their noses to see when another class is in need of help.

I think there are more Kobolds than those that live in the Warrens and thereabouts. Those kobolds are smart enough and organized enough to really get upset about Brell and go all emo feeling betrayed (what the lore doesn't say is that Rolfron looks like a cross between the lead singer of Death Cab For Cutie and a black poodle), but they don't speak for every kobold on Norrath.