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I'm level 67 and have been working my Alchemy since I was about level 55. I've got the Alchemy AA to improve my chance of making the potions by 50%, my Journeyman Alchemy Trophy, and the Planar Power AA up to 67(Wisdom is maxed at 325). With my Alchemy currently at 207 it seems like skill-ups are becoming very infrequent and are very expensive. Am I wasting my time at my current level? Would it be any faster when I get to level 85 and my wisdom is maxed? Thanks for any advice.
I want to be able to tell you, that yes waiting will make a huge difference, but unfortunately not. Will it make a difference? Yes, but not so much so, that you'd say Wow!
To cut down on expense, make potions you can sell in the bazaar. Farm the supplies. You didn't happen to say what recipes you were trying to skill up on, but some often give less skill up rates. Those that are completely store bought generally have a lower skill up rate due to the ease in obtaining the supplies.
If you're not into using the bazaar, making potions you will use yourself, is still often cheaper than to buy them from NPCs or players.
Salvage AAs will help save some money as well.
Either way though, skill up rate will be horrid especially as you get closer to 300. I'd say at 200ish it's the recipes you are doing however. Seems like Alchemy really starts slowing down around 240ish un-modified skill. I know I tried some potions at 200ish that gave horrid skill ups and switched to somethign else that worked much better, but I don't remember what either one atm.
You might take a look at the Complete Tradeskill Guide 5.0 on EQ Traders as well as the Alchemy forum.
Oh, and there's a calculator somewhere on the site, where you can see what the difference is with various stats, to see how many fewer combines, lets say a 500 Wis would than your current 335.
Yther Ore.
To cut down on expense, make potions you can sell in the bazaar. Farm the supplies. You didn't happen to say what recipes you were trying to skill up on, but some often give less skill up rates. Those that are completely store bought generally have a lower skill up rate due to the ease in obtaining the supplies.
If you're not into using the bazaar, making potions you will use yourself, is still often cheaper than to buy them from NPCs or players.
Salvage AAs will help save some money as well.
Either way though, skill up rate will be horrid especially as you get closer to 300. I'd say at 200ish it's the recipes you are doing however. Seems like Alchemy really starts slowing down around 240ish un-modified skill. I know I tried some potions at 200ish that gave horrid skill ups and switched to somethign else that worked much better, but I don't remember what either one atm.
You might take a look at the Complete Tradeskill Guide 5.0 on EQ Traders as well as the Alchemy forum.
Oh, and there's a calculator somewhere on the site, where you can see what the difference is with various stats, to see how many fewer combines, lets say a 500 Wis would than your current 335.
Yther Ore.
I believe you can use tribute to bump up your wisdom also. Maybe check the calculator mentioned in the above post and see if tribute can bump up your wisdom enough to help. Skill-ups are very slow in the 240ish range and up. It seems to me that I obtained skill-ups more frequently if I was making something close to my alchemy level rather than something much higher than my alchemy level, but that could be wishful thinking:)
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Make lots and lots of clarity X pots. http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=20702&menustr=035000000000 Takes about 1k combines to get to 300. But they sell back to vendor at a pretty good price or you can sell in the bazaar.
You can get nodding blue lilies in old seb or buy in the bazaar, but don't pay more than 50pp per.
Make sure you are working on your trophies at the same time so you get credit for them or you will have to make even more clarity pots to lvl up to your last trophy https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=50704
This is what I did and I think it only costed me about 15k to get to 300.
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 9:06pm by Boomsticker
You can get nodding blue lilies in old seb or buy in the bazaar, but don't pay more than 50pp per.
Make sure you are working on your trophies at the same time so you get credit for them or you will have to make even more clarity pots to lvl up to your last trophy https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=50704
This is what I did and I think it only costed me about 15k to get to 300.
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 9:06pm by Boomsticker
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Thanks for all of the advice. I am going to try and get to 300 as soon as I get all 5 levels of the Innate Enlightenment AA. That will put me at 375 wisdom which should help.
Boom, what do you mean about working on my trophy? I got my beginner trophy at 130 Alchemy and it has evolved three times since then, almost immediately and then at 150 and 200. Don't they evolve automatically? I wasn't making potions from the different trophy lists and the trophies evolved anyway.
Boom, what do you mean about working on my trophy? I got my beginner trophy at 130 Alchemy and it has evolved three times since then, almost immediately and then at 150 and 200. Don't they evolve automatically? I wasn't making potions from the different trophy lists and the trophies evolved anyway.
Trophies evolve over time as you make successful combinations. It's a random thing, but averages anywhere from every 5 to 10 combinations you will gain 1% towards your next evolution level. Trophies DO NOT affect how quickly you learn (other than the base stats they might offer when wearing it). Your trophies will only evolve when worn while making that tradeskill item. All a trophy does is increase your skill with the modifier to make a successful attempt more likely when you make things.
It is actually possible to possess your trophy, keep it in the bank and never evolve it.... Then when you decide to evolve your trophy it will catch up to your skill EXTREMELY quickly. It will literally skip the grinding process usually needed and equal your level in just a few skill up attempts (40-50 if you were a 300 tradeskiller and your trophy was beginner).
It is actually possible to possess your trophy, keep it in the bank and never evolve it.... Then when you decide to evolve your trophy it will catch up to your skill EXTREMELY quickly. It will literally skip the grinding process usually needed and equal your level in just a few skill up attempts (40-50 if you were a 300 tradeskiller and your trophy was beginner).
It's not random, it's based on the trivial of the successful combine. Also, they have to be above your un-modified skill level.
That's why to do the fewest combines to max out a trophy at 300 skill, you need to do over 340ish or is 350ish trivial combines, I forget the exact point. You can find out by looking on EQ Traders forums or other places Ngreth posts, as he has said many times what the trivial needs to be. And even at those trivials it will take many combines to max it out, even if you were already at 12% evolution.
Either way, if you have it, I wouldn't ever recommend not equipping it, while doing non-trivial combines. Some people don't do the quests till they're 300 skill so they automatically get the 12% mod version (via the certificate combine), but I dont' really see the purpose there other than saving bank space for a while, as it levels pretty quickly, 'cept the last 2 evolutions, and again that depends on success rate and trivials.
Yther Ore.
That's why to do the fewest combines to max out a trophy at 300 skill, you need to do over 340ish or is 350ish trivial combines, I forget the exact point. You can find out by looking on EQ Traders forums or other places Ngreth posts, as he has said many times what the trivial needs to be. And even at those trivials it will take many combines to max it out, even if you were already at 12% evolution.
Either way, if you have it, I wouldn't ever recommend not equipping it, while doing non-trivial combines. Some people don't do the quests till they're 300 skill so they automatically get the 12% mod version (via the certificate combine), but I dont' really see the purpose there other than saving bank space for a while, as it levels pretty quickly, 'cept the last 2 evolutions, and again that depends on success rate and trivials.
Yther Ore.
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