Does Honor Still Exist?Follow

A few days ago I was contacted by a fellow guildie in which I wish I could not disclose the name of, but it is important at this point that everything be laid out on the table for his benefit and others abroad Norrath that my be potential targets.

The ultimate question here however is, how can a guild claim to be "honorable" when they plant "informants" in a guild to steal members by befriending them and then trying to corner and badger them into joining their guild?

Another question that leads into this; how can a guild claim to have the best interests of the EverQuest's future at heart when they're very actions are ensuring a desolate and grim future for other "smaller" guilds? How is over-aggressively targeting and recruiting from lower level guilds going to give those smaller guilds that harbor growth and nurture of EverQuest any chance at end-game or survival?

Well Norrath, I reveal to you the very face that eats at the core of the game - ensuring that guilds are farmed, friends are betrayed, and that they get what they want; numbers. The face has a name and it is Phantom Raiders. This started when I received a voice comment from a guildie saying "hey did you hear what happened today yet?". After he told me the details I was appalled; the details were that he was contacted by Grund, the GUILD LEADER OF PHANTOM RAIDERS of Phantom Raiders saying that one of our own guildies (at the time) Amaazon had recommended he join Phantom Raiders. After expressing he was not interested but thanks for the invitation, it did not stop; like a bad telemarketer that we all hate he had to nearly forcefully exit the conversation but in a nice and diplomatic way by creating excuses to leave it.

Screenshots and more of the article available at Divine Reaper's Forums

Yeah your right, but you have to pretty much put the entire guild on ignore with these guys. My wife has been contacted by several people in that guild, after ignoring each one. They don't get the hint. They persist to go through and contact each person on the /who all "guildname". But it doesn't stop there. Take a look at the screenshots, they even had someone join the guild in a needed class and that person was recruiting from inside the for over 3 weeks during their recruitment (probationary) period.

But I remember back in 99, the attitude was, "treat those guys how we want to be treated because one day, they'll be bigger than us". Today the attitude has completely changed to, "Keep the rising nail knocked down and no one can compete."

Edited, Jan 7th 2009 10:37am by Lalolyen

I remember the rampant Kill stealing and BS mentioned above in my many years in the game....I also remember the folk who did have honor and showed it...I was luck enought to be a member of a guild that had standarts of conduct and ideals.....

Poaching from guilds has been around since the game started.

Years ago? @OP: Do you remember the progression servers? Does the guild Fires of Heaven ring a bell? FoH and one other guild were neck and neck, and they were killstealing from everyone by zerging the content.

Even back in classic, with Enchanters:

Ancient Cyclops blinks.

Randomenchanter hit Ancient Cyclops for 356 points of non-melee damage.
Randomenchanter has slain Ancient Cyclops!

Poaching is an ongoing issue that probably started right after the 2nd group was formed when the EQ servers went live.
As for KS'ing etc, never been an issue on Stromm since I can look after myself and the community is pretty good at self-government.
Honor still exists.

Truthfully I was not going to post on this topic but here goes .... Leave the drama in the guild or on your server where it belongs. Dont come here crying to get more attention which in all truth is what you are trying to do. Higher end guilds recruiting from smaller guilds always happens. Your guild is nothing special. I know of a few guild that send out blind tells to get people to app. It is up to your players whether to leave or stay.

And seriously you talk about honor but your guild has no real true honor. Want to know why I say this? You use real military awards as "Global Medals" to give out? How dare you disrespect the soldiers that earn these awards?

http://forums.divinereapers.org/medals.php


How dare you compare a medal that is awarded to soldiers that have been injured in combat to giving fake money in a game ?

Or...



This is even worse imho. The Medal of Honor as you should know is the highest award given to the military. This takes true heroism not something some person can do in a F@#$%^& game.


So before you go complaining about Honor in a game, learn its true meaning before you try to come gain sympathy.

Edited, Jan 7th 2009 9:47pm by doorsofpercep

I hope Electronic Arts never finds out about this.

So, in other words, a poacher can infiltrate your guild and aggressively recruit members, and not one of these people being propositioned bothers to notify the officers in your Guild about this?

Sounds like you're better off without them. They have no sense of loyalty.

No, they use it to make bags of cash for Electronic Arts.

I admit that the Purple Heart thing is strange and even tacky. I don't think it signifies anything worse than someone thinking using real awards is "neat" and trying to shoehorn them in. You obviously can't be giving a Purple Heart every time someone is wounded on a raid

http://forums.divinereapers.org/medals.php


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You can buy a medal is what I am taking away from this......tacky IMHO

Edited, Jan 8th 2009 10:16am by rosleck

Good thing you are retired because the army doesnt need worthless Commissioned officers such as you. I feel sorry for any one that was under you command.
Edited, Jan 8th 2009 7:27pm by doorsofpercep

Edited, Jan 8th 2009 7:42pm by doorsofpercep