I am in the proccess of revamping the way shakerpageing is done. I can currently do it with most of the class's out there. But I am looking into Shaman or Beastlords. Does anyone know any PBAE spells, items , or weapons useable by them to allow me to perfect it. All other class's I can get up to 25 AA per pull solo. And 7 AA per pull in a group. I am looking to start up a shaman and Beasty and wanna PL them fast.
Any help would be appreaciated and I will be happy to share my secrets with ya for your help.
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I can help you but unfortunately that information is stuck in Nigeria.
If you send me your bank account information I will be able to smuggle it out in an account transfer. You will then have lots of information and be helping to keep eq alive.
If you send me your bank account information I will be able to smuggle it out in an account transfer. You will then have lots of information and be helping to keep eq alive.
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All other class's I can get up to 25 AA per pull solo.
Lol.
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
Mobs need to be within 7 levels of you or else you dont get diddly for exp. The Red direction I mean.
So, if you could somehow pull every single mob in all of Sunderrock; this being because sebilis wont work for lvl 52 and RSS requires 69 to enter; and they were all (red to you) level 55-59; Then you still wont get 25 aa for the one pull, even though it is a hot zone. And this is with them all being a perfect level for you to get max exp, (which they are not.)
This is totally ignoring the game mechanic on max train sizes which prevents you from training more than x number of mobs. Us bards had that figured out long ago when we were allowed aoe song dmg on moving mobs. No one could get a train larger than x size. Mobs always wandered off.
So forget about your wishing for a new 'shakerpaging' for shamans and just go with a normal PL if you dont wish to just fight in normal solo or group settings.
So, if you could somehow pull every single mob in all of Sunderrock; this being because sebilis wont work for lvl 52 and RSS requires 69 to enter; and they were all (red to you) level 55-59; Then you still wont get 25 aa for the one pull, even though it is a hot zone. And this is with them all being a perfect level for you to get max exp, (which they are not.)
This is totally ignoring the game mechanic on max train sizes which prevents you from training more than x number of mobs. Us bards had that figured out long ago when we were allowed aoe song dmg on moving mobs. No one could get a train larger than x size. Mobs always wandered off.
So forget about your wishing for a new 'shakerpaging' for shamans and just go with a normal PL if you dont wish to just fight in normal solo or group settings.
I am still waiting on your account information.
Good news is that you may have also won the lottery. Pleas send info so i can pass on crazy secret for shaker.
Good news is that you may have also won the lottery. Pleas send info so i can pass on crazy secret for shaker.
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Mobs need to be within 7 levels of you or else you dont get diddly for exp. The Red direction I mean.
So, if you could somehow pull every single mob in all of Sunderrock; this being because sebilis wont work for lvl 52 and RSS requires 69 to enter; and they were all (red to you) level 55-59; Then you still wont get 25 aa for the one pull, even though it is a hot zone. And this is with them all being a perfect level for you to get max exp, (which they are not.)
This is totally ignoring the game mechanic on max train sizes which prevents you from training more than x number of mobs. Us bards had that figured out long ago when we were allowed aoe song dmg on moving mobs. No one could get a train larger than x size. Mobs always wandered off.
So forget about your wishing for a new 'shakerpaging' for shamans and just go with a normal PL if you dont wish to just fight in normal solo or group settings.
So, if you could somehow pull every single mob in all of Sunderrock; this being because sebilis wont work for lvl 52 and RSS requires 69 to enter; and they were all (red to you) level 55-59; Then you still wont get 25 aa for the one pull, even though it is a hot zone. And this is with them all being a perfect level for you to get max exp, (which they are not.)
This is totally ignoring the game mechanic on max train sizes which prevents you from training more than x number of mobs. Us bards had that figured out long ago when we were allowed aoe song dmg on moving mobs. No one could get a train larger than x size. Mobs always wandered off.
So forget about your wishing for a new 'shakerpaging' for shamans and just go with a normal PL if you dont wish to just fight in normal solo or group settings.
It's called a 'sploit Quad. But grats on the quick levels and it's cool they let you keep them.
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
Pardon my noobishness here, but what the hell is "shakerpaging?" Sounds like some kind of PL exploit.
EDIT: I looked for a bit and found this - maybe some other folks who were curious about this should read on. It concerns an apprarently overpowered weapon called Earthshaker, that becomes more powerful based on the number of mobs you fight.
" Shaker Paging depends on a combination of an Area Effect melee attack combine with an Area Effect spell effect.
The spell comes from weapon with a Point Blank Area Effect proc, like Earthshaker, which can hit every NPC within a small radius.
The melee attack is an AE rampage ability which is available to warriors.
To do this right, you want to pull a huge train into a small space around the person with the AE weapon. The AE melee attack will hit every one of them. This can easily be several thousand melee swings in a very short period of time.
Prior to this patch, each of those melee swings would have a chance to trigger the weapon proc. So the Area Effect spell might be triggered many, many times. Since every AE affects every nearby creature, it would kill them all. So, with 10 NPC's nearby, you might do a nice amount damage from the proc. Pulling 100 mobs instead would do 1000 times as much damage.
This patch won't affect the number of melee swings. Warriors will still be able to do thousands of attacks in a short time. This is a relief to those who were worried that the rampage ability might get a cap on the number of targets affected.
When a warrior rampages, only a tiny fraction of those attacks actually affect the NPC listed in the warrior's target window. After today, those will be the only attacks which will trigger the weapon proc. So instead of hundreds of procs, the warrior will see a normal number of procs. Each proc will still be an AE spell which can hit many, many targets, so they would probably kill a lot of grey-con mobs.
There just won't be the massive number of swings which can trigger a massive number of AEs. AE melee won't combine with AE damage to produce staggering waves of death.
For every other purpose, the AE weapons and AE abilities will remain exactly as before. In fact, I hope they put Earthshaker back in the game and add some other AE weapons. "
As far as max train sizes - I wasn't aware of that - thanks. I had heard that bard pulling had been nerfed a few years back, but hadn't heard anything about class nerfs since.
As far as not getting exp if the mob is more than 7 levels more than you - when did soe implement this? Also, If I group with people who I am light blue to, and they kill mobs, say, 8+ levels exp. more than me, would I get exp? Just curious.
Edited, Oct 8th 2008 3:23am by zirumkin
EDIT: I looked for a bit and found this - maybe some other folks who were curious about this should read on. It concerns an apprarently overpowered weapon called Earthshaker, that becomes more powerful based on the number of mobs you fight.
" Shaker Paging depends on a combination of an Area Effect melee attack combine with an Area Effect spell effect.
The spell comes from weapon with a Point Blank Area Effect proc, like Earthshaker, which can hit every NPC within a small radius.
The melee attack is an AE rampage ability which is available to warriors.
To do this right, you want to pull a huge train into a small space around the person with the AE weapon. The AE melee attack will hit every one of them. This can easily be several thousand melee swings in a very short period of time.
Prior to this patch, each of those melee swings would have a chance to trigger the weapon proc. So the Area Effect spell might be triggered many, many times. Since every AE affects every nearby creature, it would kill them all. So, with 10 NPC's nearby, you might do a nice amount damage from the proc. Pulling 100 mobs instead would do 1000 times as much damage.
This patch won't affect the number of melee swings. Warriors will still be able to do thousands of attacks in a short time. This is a relief to those who were worried that the rampage ability might get a cap on the number of targets affected.
When a warrior rampages, only a tiny fraction of those attacks actually affect the NPC listed in the warrior's target window. After today, those will be the only attacks which will trigger the weapon proc. So instead of hundreds of procs, the warrior will see a normal number of procs. Each proc will still be an AE spell which can hit many, many targets, so they would probably kill a lot of grey-con mobs.
There just won't be the massive number of swings which can trigger a massive number of AEs. AE melee won't combine with AE damage to produce staggering waves of death.
For every other purpose, the AE weapons and AE abilities will remain exactly as before. In fact, I hope they put Earthshaker back in the game and add some other AE weapons. "
As far as max train sizes - I wasn't aware of that - thanks. I had heard that bard pulling had been nerfed a few years back, but hadn't heard anything about class nerfs since.
As far as not getting exp if the mob is more than 7 levels more than you - when did soe implement this? Also, If I group with people who I am light blue to, and they kill mobs, say, 8+ levels exp. more than me, would I get exp? Just curious.
Edited, Oct 8th 2008 3:23am by zirumkin
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My Rathe / Prexus characters:
Bigbronze Bloodyaxe, 62 Ogre Berserker
Verbeeg Bearfang, 62 Ogre Beastlord
Glabrezu Spiritcaller, 62 Ogre Shaman
Zirumkin Zenomorph, 62 Gnome Wizard
Korgulon Soulwraith, 76 Ogre Shadowknight <Shining Alliance>
Incarnadine Summoner, 65 Drakkin Magician
Bristlebane characters:
Zalkahriz Ebonscale, 64 Iksar Necromancer
Gnomorre Gniceguy, 55 Gnome Rogue
Whytfire Lonewolf, 55 Woodelf Ranger
My Rathe / Prexus characters:
Bigbronze Bloodyaxe, 62 Ogre Berserker
Verbeeg Bearfang, 62 Ogre Beastlord
Glabrezu Spiritcaller, 62 Ogre Shaman
Zirumkin Zenomorph, 62 Gnome Wizard
Korgulon Soulwraith, 76 Ogre Shadowknight <Shining Alliance>
Incarnadine Summoner, 65 Drakkin Magician
Bristlebane characters:
Zalkahriz Ebonscale, 64 Iksar Necromancer
Gnomorre Gniceguy, 55 Gnome Rogue
Whytfire Lonewolf, 55 Woodelf Ranger
Here are some more points about Shakerpaging.
First, you need to understand weapon procs. Each weapon that has a proc will also have a proc rate associated with it. This proc rate is based on a certain number of procs per minute. There are AA and spells that will increase the proc rate, but it just increases the number of procs per minute.
For simplistic sake, let's say that a weapon is set to proc 2 time per minute that auto attack it on. If auto attack is on for a full minute, you will proc (on average) 2 times. Notice I didn't mention anything about the number of times that you swing the weapon. You may swing that weapon 50 times during the minute, but you will only proc two times. You may swing the weapon 5 times and proc twice. SO if you have auto attack on, and you don't swing very often, you can almost guarantee a proc.
This is the next secret to Shakerpaging. You want to have slow cast on you and take off your haste item. You want to get your swings per minute down as low as possible. This will mean each swing has a greater chance of resulting in a proc.
Combine this with the Warrior AA Rampage. One swing at every single mob in range.
Ok, so let's put all of this together.
You have the Earthshaker which procs a 250 pt AE DD.
Get slow cast on you and take off your haste item.
Pull 50 mobs and hit rampage.
You then get 50 swings.
The let's say that 25 of those swings result in a proc.
Each mob in range will the be hit with 25 x 250 = 6,250.
It works better on older mobs since they tend to have fewer HP. Obviously, the more mobs you have in the rampage range, the more proc you may get which results in more damage to each mob.
To my knowledge, the warrior is the only class that can truly "Shakerpage", as it requires the AA rampage. All other classes just AE the mobs.
Edit: When I say auto-attack on, I mean auto-attack on and in range of a mob. Sitting there not engaged will not "stockpile" procs.
Edited, Oct 8th 2008 9:16am by Pinzarn
First, you need to understand weapon procs. Each weapon that has a proc will also have a proc rate associated with it. This proc rate is based on a certain number of procs per minute. There are AA and spells that will increase the proc rate, but it just increases the number of procs per minute.
For simplistic sake, let's say that a weapon is set to proc 2 time per minute that auto attack it on. If auto attack is on for a full minute, you will proc (on average) 2 times. Notice I didn't mention anything about the number of times that you swing the weapon. You may swing that weapon 50 times during the minute, but you will only proc two times. You may swing the weapon 5 times and proc twice. SO if you have auto attack on, and you don't swing very often, you can almost guarantee a proc.
This is the next secret to Shakerpaging. You want to have slow cast on you and take off your haste item. You want to get your swings per minute down as low as possible. This will mean each swing has a greater chance of resulting in a proc.
Combine this with the Warrior AA Rampage. One swing at every single mob in range.
Ok, so let's put all of this together.
You have the Earthshaker which procs a 250 pt AE DD.
Get slow cast on you and take off your haste item.
Pull 50 mobs and hit rampage.
You then get 50 swings.
The let's say that 25 of those swings result in a proc.
Each mob in range will the be hit with 25 x 250 = 6,250.
It works better on older mobs since they tend to have fewer HP. Obviously, the more mobs you have in the rampage range, the more proc you may get which results in more damage to each mob.
To my knowledge, the warrior is the only class that can truly "Shakerpage", as it requires the AA rampage. All other classes just AE the mobs.
Edit: When I say auto-attack on, I mean auto-attack on and in range of a mob. Sitting there not engaged will not "stockpile" procs.
Edited, Oct 8th 2008 9:16am by Pinzarn
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AA experience is only gained if everyone in the group would gain experience from killing the mob.
I learned this when I thought my 75 necro could really crank out some AA's on my up and coming mage(second account). The mobs were grey to my necro but red to my mage(51), after every kill the mages text would say "you gained experience" but her AA exp. bar never moved. I then moved to mobs that were green to my necro and red to her and BAM her AA exp started to move.
As for 25 AA's in a single pull, yeah...and I have big foot on ice in my freezer. =)
I learned this when I thought my 75 necro could really crank out some AA's on my up and coming mage(second account). The mobs were grey to my necro but red to my mage(51), after every kill the mages text would say "you gained experience" but her AA exp. bar never moved. I then moved to mobs that were green to my necro and red to her and BAM her AA exp started to move.
As for 25 AA's in a single pull, yeah...and I have big foot on ice in my freezer. =)
That's all very interesting and everything, but what about this?
Patch notes from September 5, 2007.
Which I mentioned inthis post.
Unless I missed another patch where they undid this, then shakerpaging hasn't been possible in the traditional sense for over a year.
Patch notes from September 5, 2007.
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*** Miscellaneous ***
- We fixed a number of issues with Legends of Norrath within EverQuest.
- Fixed a problem with transformation molds where items transformed could not be linked in the chat window.
- Weapon procs will now only fire on the player's main target.
- You now need to be in full screen mode to change your resolution size under the options menu. While in windowed mode, you can simply drag the window border to resize the window.
- We fixed a number of issues with Legends of Norrath within EverQuest.
- Fixed a problem with transformation molds where items transformed could not be linked in the chat window.
- Weapon procs will now only fire on the player's main target.
- You now need to be in full screen mode to change your resolution size under the options menu. While in windowed mode, you can simply drag the window border to resize the window.
Which I mentioned inthis post.
Unless I missed another patch where they undid this, then shakerpaging hasn't been possible in the traditional sense for over a year.
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ok I got the weapon I needed. Its called Blue Two-Handed Hammer
Um there is no limit on the amount of mobs you can train. You can train an unlimited amount of mobs. I kill 250 mobs at a time I know for a fact that it is possible. As for an exploit what I am doing is no exploit. I will explain simply how it works. I train every mob in the zone to my group. I sit there while they beat on me. when I need a heal I heal myself. I keep the mobs agro on me. My shaman stands behind the mobs and starts swinging. the AE goes off and hits all the mobs and he keeps swinging til the AE kills all the mobs.
There is no exploit involved I am not warping or anything illeagle. All the mobs are able and do hit me. The shaman is not doing anything illeagle either he is useing an AE weapon to kill the mobs the way it is supposed to be done. I did it last night and got 24 AA's on my pulls. My shaman is solo it is why he gets so much XP.
Some things to know...
First there is no level difference if your level 5 and kill a level 60 mob you get the XP.
The reason most people cannot train unlimited amount of mobs is because they get outside of the mobs agro range. When you get far enough away from a mob it will drop agro on you. It is an art to be able to stack mobs and train 200 of them. Not many can do it. and of those who can not many has the ability to kill them. While people where useing the earthshaker in PoV to shakerpage with 3 of their warrior buddies. I was doing it solo in plane of fire. My warrior had max AA's til this last expansion came out.
If there be any doubts of my abilities bring 100K and I will let you watch me do it. And if I cant I will give you 100K.
Um there is no limit on the amount of mobs you can train. You can train an unlimited amount of mobs. I kill 250 mobs at a time I know for a fact that it is possible. As for an exploit what I am doing is no exploit. I will explain simply how it works. I train every mob in the zone to my group. I sit there while they beat on me. when I need a heal I heal myself. I keep the mobs agro on me. My shaman stands behind the mobs and starts swinging. the AE goes off and hits all the mobs and he keeps swinging til the AE kills all the mobs.
There is no exploit involved I am not warping or anything illeagle. All the mobs are able and do hit me. The shaman is not doing anything illeagle either he is useing an AE weapon to kill the mobs the way it is supposed to be done. I did it last night and got 24 AA's on my pulls. My shaman is solo it is why he gets so much XP.
Some things to know...
First there is no level difference if your level 5 and kill a level 60 mob you get the XP.
The reason most people cannot train unlimited amount of mobs is because they get outside of the mobs agro range. When you get far enough away from a mob it will drop agro on you. It is an art to be able to stack mobs and train 200 of them. Not many can do it. and of those who can not many has the ability to kill them. While people where useing the earthshaker in PoV to shakerpage with 3 of their warrior buddies. I was doing it solo in plane of fire. My warrior had max AA's til this last expansion came out.
If there be any doubts of my abilities bring 100K and I will let you watch me do it. And if I cant I will give you 100K.
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