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Scholar
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i was lookin at the pre order for seeds of destruction and want to see if any had gotten the new qeynos shield and if they would be any good. If any has could you link it as well as some of the other items
Seeds of Destruction? Another expansion already? THe more expensive they make it to come back, the less likely that I'm going to bother putting EQ on my new PC and pay for a month...
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I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
Each expansion contains the previous expansions included.
The Great Driftwood wrote:
Seeds of Destruction? Another expansion already? THe more expensive they make it to come back, the less likely that I'm going to bother putting EQ on my new PC and pay for a month...
I believe they're cutting back to one a year instead of two a year. Or so I heard anyway.
Scholar
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First, to answer the question (sort of...): I don't think you'll be able to claim the gift until the expansion goes live. It is only a guess, but I expect the stats will scale to the level of character that claims it. You might want to confirm that before claiming the thing if your character isn't pretty high level.
Second, just to echo what has already been said, assuming you would have brought your expansions up to date on coming back before this expansion was announced, getting this shouldn't cost you any more. For the last few expansions they have sold one package that includes everything at a pretty reasonable price. You don't have to buy an expansion at a time unless you are just getting the one new one. And really, you don't HAVE to have the latest expansions.
Second, just to echo what has already been said, assuming you would have brought your expansions up to date on coming back before this expansion was announced, getting this shouldn't cost you any more. For the last few expansions they have sold one package that includes everything at a pretty reasonable price. You don't have to buy an expansion at a time unless you are just getting the one new one. And really, you don't HAVE to have the latest expansions.
Scholar
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Thanks for the reply back. For the guy who complaining about not playing eq again; please don't. If you don't like the game find another one. Unless sony is twisting your arm to play of coruse, then SUCK IT UP
The only thing I see as ...problematic to me personally about this is that you don't get the previous expansion's /claim items if yo've already claimed them. So far I've purchased The Buried Sea 3 times... can I get 3x the CH pots and the Mana pots??? PLEASE?
Other than that, $40 a year isn't anything to really ***** about.
Other than that, $40 a year isn't anything to really ***** about.
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What I was getting at is that most of my money goes to rent, phone, internet, & food. I can barely afford to play an MMO if I budget right, I cannot afford to get another expansion, even if it is a small total of $40. Also, if SOE had come a long way, they'd be doing something other than just firing out expansions to keep the game from dying, like maybe advertising, or maybe making game cards or free trials more widely available.
I love the game, I'm just tired of paying as much as I always end up paying.
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The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
Alan Watts wrote:
I am omnipotent insofar as I am the Universe, but I am not an omnipotent in the role of Alan Watts, only cunning
Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
jonnypanic wrote:
Good news! With the decision to make expansions ONCE per year instead of 2 per year, you're now paying $40 per year for expansions instead of $60-$80!
You can thanks SoE for the 33.33%-50% reduction in your EQ updates expense (different from your EQ subscriptions expense).
As for nomnom, the issue there is that, if you're talking about getting TBS three times in these bundles, TBS... and all other previous expansions... are "included free" with your purchase of the current expansion... so, you're not actually buying TBS again, you're just getting another free copy.
You can thanks SoE for the 33.33%-50% reduction in your EQ updates expense (different from your EQ subscriptions expense).
As for nomnom, the issue there is that, if you're talking about getting TBS three times in these bundles, TBS... and all other previous expansions... are "included free" with your purchase of the current expansion... so, you're not actually buying TBS again, you're just getting another free copy.
Right, but... we're actually paying for them. They could easily charge $20 or probably even $15 and turn a good profit on newer expansions, by releasing them solo, as opposed to bundled with every other bloody expansion that we really don't need.
Paradox wrote:
Right, but... we're actually paying for them. They could easily charge $20 or probably even $15 and turn a good profit on newer expansions, by releasing them solo, as opposed to bundled with every other bloody expansion that we really don't need.
The old expansions are coded and done with. Their production was covered by subscription fees and the cost of buying that expansion. Adding them now to new expansions costs SOE nothing. All it does is give returning players (and the rare new player) incentive to buy the new expansion since they'll be all caught up. Do they even include physical copies of the old expansions? I'd assume "every old expansion!" just means that your Seeds of Destruction product key also opens up all the other expansiosn (which are downloaded).
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Paradox wrote:
Right, but... we're actually paying for them. They could easily charge $20 or probably even $15 and turn a good profit on newer expansions, by releasing them solo, as opposed to bundled with every other bloody expansion that we really don't need.
The old expansions are coded and done with. Their production was covered by subscription fees and the cost of buying that expansion. Adding them now to new expansions costs SOE nothing. All it does is give returning players (and the rare new player) incentive to buy the new expansion since they'll be all caught up. Do they even include physical copies of the old expansions? I'd assume "every old expansion!" just means that your Seeds of Destruction product key also opens up all the other expansiosn (which are downloaded).
Yeah, I understand that, but we're paying more than we ever did for expansions before. I didn't phrase what I was saying too clearly, but what I mean is, we are paying for the old expansions. Sony could turn a profit on just the new expansions, easy enough, by pumping them out for $15-20 a pop. But they don't. They jack up the price to $40 and include every other expansion. I wouldn't have an issue with it if they released just the new expansions, as well as boxed sets, but all they release are the boxed sets. It's asinine, in my opinion.
How nice and charmed lives you guys must lead.
jonnypanic wrote:
This, right here, is actually why they don't do the collections (like Everquest: Evolutions) anymore.
You see, selling the current expansion for however much, then tacking on a seperate "collection" production to get the previous expansions, makes EQ one thing SoE does NOT want it to be for a potential customer... more complicated.
They've covered exactly that issue ages ago, when they first announced that SoF will include all previous expansions "free", and that they were not going to do "collection" series expansions anymore. By including all previous expansions FREE with each new expansions, a potential new customer need just buy the current expansions to be all caught up.
This saves SoE the expense of producing seperate collection expansions, and keeps new customers from feeling left out unless they buy "this AND that" just to be where everyone else is. They buy ONE product, and they're good to go! Because... let's be honest... with EQ, SoE needs to do everything they can to keep from alienating new customers.
As for the existing customers who might complain about buying TBS three times without getting the extra prizes included in each monetary purchase of TBS, I think SoE assumes that anyone playing Everquest is capable of reading the statement on the package that declares that all the previous expansions are included free.
Edited, Sep 29th 2008 8:07pm by jonnypanic
You see, selling the current expansion for however much, then tacking on a seperate "collection" production to get the previous expansions, makes EQ one thing SoE does NOT want it to be for a potential customer... more complicated.
They've covered exactly that issue ages ago, when they first announced that SoF will include all previous expansions "free", and that they were not going to do "collection" series expansions anymore. By including all previous expansions FREE with each new expansions, a potential new customer need just buy the current expansions to be all caught up.
This saves SoE the expense of producing seperate collection expansions, and keeps new customers from feeling left out unless they buy "this AND that" just to be where everyone else is. They buy ONE product, and they're good to go! Because... let's be honest... with EQ, SoE needs to do everything they can to keep from alienating new customers.
As for the existing customers who might complain about buying TBS three times without getting the extra prizes included in each monetary purchase of TBS, I think SoE assumes that anyone playing Everquest is capable of reading the statement on the package that declares that all the previous expansions are included free.
Edited, Sep 29th 2008 8:07pm by jonnypanic
You just aren't getting the fact that we are paying for the previous expansions... heh. ***** complication. How hard is it for them to do what they did around the time Titanium was released? That had everything up to... what, Prophecy of Ro? There were a couple of expansions that came out after that you could buy single. They're trying to turn as much of a profit as they possibly can off of selling something that's already been bought -- because they aren't selling it by itself.
no we are paying 40 dollars for the new expansion soe has said 40 or 30 dollars is the normal price for the expansion alone the other expansion are just free with the box
Scholar
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we are not paying for look at the past expansions if you have paid for them singlely they have always been 40.
Actually before the all-in-one expansions started they were $30 each. I would like to see them allow a digital download of just the new expansion each year for $30 or buy the all-in-one box set for $40.
I thought I remembered them to be more like $35 but, regardless, I'd assume the extra cost (be it $5 or $10) is because of the "One big expansion per year" thing -- both increased production costs and less chance for revenue compared to two expansions annually -- and not a charge for another Scars of Velious key.
The only expansion released in the $20 neighborhood was the five zone "extension pack" Legacy of Ykesha for $15.
Edit: My mistake. SoV retailed for $20 according to dusty old game review websites. Luclin onwards appear to have been $30. I'd still be inclinded to attribute the extra $10 to the "bigger, better" 1-per-year aspect and not the addition of obsolete expansion keys.
Edited, Sep 30th 2008 8:13am by Jophiel
The only expansion released in the $20 neighborhood was the five zone "extension pack" Legacy of Ykesha for $15.
Edit: My mistake. SoV retailed for $20 according to dusty old game review websites. Luclin onwards appear to have been $30. I'd still be inclinded to attribute the extra $10 to the "bigger, better" 1-per-year aspect and not the addition of obsolete expansion keys.
Edited, Sep 30th 2008 8:13am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
The idea of paying $40 for 20 new zones, mercs, and a new level cap actually sounds pretty good to me. But then I remember that I opened a 2nd account last month. Paying $80 really makes my *** twitch.
Edited, Sep 30th 2008 1:39pm by Gladestrider
Edited, Sep 30th 2008 1:39pm by Gladestrider
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