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#27 Jan 03 2008 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Imagine a Sony toon selling gold tickets (or something valuable but not recyclable after a character uses it). Thats 100s of k of plat taken out of the economy (because of course a planted seller better be destroying the plat).

Go back and tag all the big $$$ twink items with no req level (i.e., from former raid bosses people solo farm now) as attunable. You can still farm it, you can still sell it, but the person paying for it is on the hook for the investment (AoN value as an attunable item...?).

Neither of these moves hurts regular players because making the twink gear attunable doesn't prevent you farming it for your friends or alts, it just makes it less lucrative to permacamp. The ticket rewards could be revised to be very appealling again (and attunable/no trade). You could even be kind and phase in the items with the "pending attunable" tag for a month prior to the final change --just to let people know and plan.

Best part is... at first these 2 changes would increase the demand for bought plat. The farmers would sell out and then have to work to regain their stock... but the easy 24/7 money makers are reduced in effectiveness. Do it right they won't bother with EQ as much because other games are easier to profit from.

That's my theory, any thoughts?
#28 Jan 03 2008 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
I havent bought an account, but I have been given two, by friends I work with, who decided they werent gonna play anymore. Ya, I was a PITA while playing those toons I have never had played before. I was playing a level 51 cleric and was probably the worst cleric you will have ever grouped with. Same with a 53 level shammy. After some friendly advice that included several curse words, I eventually got to the point to where I was able to contibute positively on raids with these characters. So ya, bought characters can be a PITA, havin been one myself. Hopefully though, since its gonna keep happening, these people who buy toons will listen to the "freindly" advice, and helpful hints others give them. Oh, and I am still a PITA, occasionally.
#29 Jan 03 2008 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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Harrington wrote:
I havent bought an account, but I have been given two, by friends I work with, who decided they werent gonna play anymore. Ya, I was a PITA while playing those toons I have never had played before. I was playing a level 51 cleric and was probably the worst cleric you will have ever grouped with. Same with a 53 level shammy. After some friendly advice that included several curse words, I eventually got to the point to where I was able to contibute positively on raids with these characters. So ya, bought characters can be a PITA, havin been one myself. Hopefully though, since its gonna keep happening, these people who buy toons will listen to the "freindly" advice, and helpful hints others give them. Oh, and I am still a PITA, occasionally.
Personally I can't group 'given' or even 'purchased' accounts from a friend or acquaintance into the mix. It's not contributing to the whole slimy bussiness.

As mentioned earlier. Companies like IGE and My Super Sales are no longer even dealing in accounts. They'll sell you plat, and offer up PLing services. I understand if you 'buy' power-leveling services, the PLing company will actually take your account for a scheduled day, log you on and PL you up. That's kinda scary. I'm assuming you'd be changing your password immediately afterwards.

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#30REDACTED, Posted: Jan 04 2008 at 9:04 AM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) If you don't have time to play games, don't play them. But, to pay SoE to play EQ and then claim you don't have the time to play it, but somehow think you need or deserve the same amount of plat or level of gear as someone who plays gobs of hours is ...bull...quite frankly.
#31 Jan 04 2008 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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ofcoarse just about anyone at blizzard or any of thier 9 million subscribers could tell them what they need to do...........if they cared to listen.
Do you think that SoE doesn't pay any attention to the competition?

The fact is shadow EQ's is not dying. The populations are more stable now than they've been since WoW's release. People who went to WoW and liked it, may still be there, others who didn't came back. It's ok, that there is an MMO that is a bit different from WoW, because there are people are different.

EQ is a bit tougher. Too tough for you apparently. Are you not tiring of tryin to convince people here that it should be just like WoW; dumbed down enough that you can make a go of it?
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#32 Jan 04 2008 at 9:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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shadowrelm wrote:

and, like it or not, NO ONE is going to jump into EQ1, even if they plan on raiding, and spend a year or better grinding out 80 levels and 1000 or better aa points and farming augs and shopping the bazzar so they can START raiding........sometime next year. NO ONE.



Granted I jumped back into EQ... but I rolled a new account, dabbled in classes for 5 months to choose my new main. My main is now 61 with 10 (cough) AA. I won't be 80 with 1000 AA within 5 months (1 year return anniversary for me) but I will be raiding with my family guild (tomorrow in fact if I make it home in time).

I'm having the most fun I ever have had in EQ. If I somehow get bored of what I am doing I can bump up 5-10-15-19 levels for a large amount of content I have never done. I'm looking forward to meeting the wereorcs in SoF... and don't mind saving that for months or years if need be.
#34 Jan 04 2008 at 2:53 PM Rating: Good
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"and, like it or not, NO ONE is going to jump into EQ1, even if they plan on raiding, and spend a year or better grinding out 80 levels and 1000 or better aa points and farming augs and shopping the bazzar so they can START raiding........sometime next year. NO ONE."

I have been wondering who the heck this Shadowrelm is. Unless someone quotes him, I dont ever see his posts. Doesnt matter. Anyway, no one has to grind out 80 levels, or 1000 or better AAs or even raid level gear in order to get into a "good" guild. I put that in quotes because what people consider a good guild varies from person to person. Some want raiding opportunities, while others prefer family type guilds. Our guild is a bit of both, and we recruit people every week. We accept them as they are, and they, through grouping with us, and raiding, eventually end up with level 80, 1000+ AAs, and raid level gear.

Bottom line is that new players dont stay unguilded for too long, unless they want it that way.

BTW, that is making a generalization that is not supported by facts.
#35 Jan 04 2008 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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The name “EverQuest” is the game.
Never ending, game playing, quest seeking. To grind out the same quest is boring but I challenge anyone to prove to me they have done ever old world, low level quest in game. I bet there are quest that have not even been done. Example: find on this site where to obtain Spirit channel greaves? Been in game for over 2 ½ years and I have only seen one player selling or he sold to me…but that is it. Best caster level one pants in game. There is also a melee pair too.
To buy an account is like cheating in solitary,
Or like kissing your sister. You are missing a lot.
It is not the same grind building your toon from the start. Everything is different. If you are on a blue server go to zek and start a new toon. If you are on Zek you know the challeges of a new toon. And to avoid it by buying a higher level too is just being Lazy.
It is virtual and a damn game. Keep it that way. Monopoly’s game board doesn’t come with the hotels already glued to the property space. You start the game from the START. Wow what a concept.
I don’t think people should buy plat, items, characters, cheats, outside of game. To me, this is cheating and not right..
If someone wants a Power Level and pays for it with plat earned in game, fine.
Buy all you want from Bazaar or other players from with in game. We all know raid items or quested higher level items are better.
But it is a GAME, play by the rules (PERIOD)

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#36 Jan 04 2008 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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And,for those who buy powerlevels from IGE 65+
What they do,is take your toon into an instance and kill masses of mobs with nodelay hacks. So,you risk getting banned and may as well hack yourself rather then paying some one else to hack for you.
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