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well i dont see the point in buying accounts really because if you buy then how would u know how to play it. i just was wonderin why people buy accounts because they wouldnt know how to play the main. i actually would love to buy an account which i guess i feel bad about and i probably already would have if i didnt fear not knowing how to play it.
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I suppose people buy accounts because they do not wish to spend the time that is required to bring a character up. To get gear, spells, flags, AA points, etc. *shrug* I've always rather preferred to invest time, blood, sweat, and tears into a character. Jumping right to the end isn't much fun.
As for not being able to understand how to play the character...that is one of the most common problems amongst sold accounts; you end up with high level morons. Admittedly, jumping into a character it usually isn't that hard to figure out how to play it, but a lot of people don't bother.
As for not being able to understand how to play the character...that is one of the most common problems amongst sold accounts; you end up with high level morons. Admittedly, jumping into a character it usually isn't that hard to figure out how to play it, but a lot of people don't bother.
A thread like this is moot. Like debating sex before marriage or the existence of God or if Coke is better than Pepsi. It never ends.
If you have 8 years experience with the game and experience with every class and getting 4000+ AAs then buying, say, a Cleric or Druid bot might be more preferable than doing it again.
The same with Platinum. My level 80 Necromancer can solo in Crystallos, the current end zone of EQ and when I do, I sometimes get tradeskill drops that sell for 250k. Sometimes I'd rather pay $20 for 250k platinum.
Just my opinions.
Edited, Dec 28th 2007 3:28pm by Reyla
If you have 8 years experience with the game and experience with every class and getting 4000+ AAs then buying, say, a Cleric or Druid bot might be more preferable than doing it again.
The same with Platinum. My level 80 Necromancer can solo in Crystallos, the current end zone of EQ and when I do, I sometimes get tradeskill drops that sell for 250k. Sometimes I'd rather pay $20 for 250k platinum.
Just my opinions.
Edited, Dec 28th 2007 3:28pm by Reyla
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
honestly like i said id buy one but the fear of not being able to figure out how to play is keeping me. i probably would just buy a chanter, druid, shaman, or somehting else that i could just two box to help bring chars up. but first of all i dont hav the money to 2 box and i only hav one computer which i get lag in pok pretty bad on so it couldnt support two accounts at once i dont think.
If you don't have the money to 2 box then you likely don't have the money to buy a high end toon. The cheap ones come with virtually no gear and the well geared ones come at a premium, there doesn't seem to be much middle ground.
IMO, anyone that's played EQ for say 6 months to a year has a pretty good idea of what each class does and could play any high end toon well enough to cover the basics.
However, every class has subtle points specific to the class. It's the understanding of those that determines how well you play them.
For example, you can play a ranger with 2 hotkeys (one if you want to be creative) /assist and /autofire, then go watch tv for a while. Really, that's all you need and it'll get you by 95% of the time.
The other 5% is knowing when to mgb auspice, how to root/park adds, when to use weaponshield instead of trueshot, how to gank agro and save the cleric when the tank's not paying attention. It'll save you from asking "hmm, I just bought this level 80 ranger with 90 bajillion aa's and he's got a fire beetle eye in his inventory? What a noob..."
There's no shortcut to gaining this knowledge, you can either gain it by playing a class to high level and learning along the way or spending hours pouring over class specific websites then trying to apply that knowledge.
In the end, do what you want, there's a lot worse ways to spend your money and free time.
IMO, anyone that's played EQ for say 6 months to a year has a pretty good idea of what each class does and could play any high end toon well enough to cover the basics.
However, every class has subtle points specific to the class. It's the understanding of those that determines how well you play them.
For example, you can play a ranger with 2 hotkeys (one if you want to be creative) /assist and /autofire, then go watch tv for a while. Really, that's all you need and it'll get you by 95% of the time.
The other 5% is knowing when to mgb auspice, how to root/park adds, when to use weaponshield instead of trueshot, how to gank agro and save the cleric when the tank's not paying attention. It'll save you from asking "hmm, I just bought this level 80 ranger with 90 bajillion aa's and he's got a fire beetle eye in his inventory? What a noob..."
There's no shortcut to gaining this knowledge, you can either gain it by playing a class to high level and learning along the way or spending hours pouring over class specific websites then trying to apply that knowledge.
In the end, do what you want, there's a lot worse ways to spend your money and free time.
If level 52 is really your highest level character then buying a lvl 80 toon would be an exceptionally bad idea. If not, update your sig. That's something I'm guilty of, mine is very out of date
Dont buy toons.
If you do please let us know the toon name and server so we can advoid ya if we are inclined to do so.
If you do please let us know the toon name and server so we can advoid ya if we are inclined to do so.
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Reyla wrote:
A thread like this is moot. Like debating sex before marriage or the existence of God or if Coke is better than Pepsi. It never ends.
If you have 8 years experience with the game and experience with every class and getting 4000+ AAs then buying, say, a Cleric or Druid bot might be more preferable than doing it again.
The same with Platinum. My level 80 Necromancer can solo in Crystallos, the current end zone of EQ and when I do, I sometimes get tradeskill drops that sell for 250k. Sometimes I'd rather pay $20 for 250k platinum.
Just my opinions.
Edited, Dec 28th 2007 3:28pm by Reyla
If you have 8 years experience with the game and experience with every class and getting 4000+ AAs then buying, say, a Cleric or Druid bot might be more preferable than doing it again.
The same with Platinum. My level 80 Necromancer can solo in Crystallos, the current end zone of EQ and when I do, I sometimes get tradeskill drops that sell for 250k. Sometimes I'd rather pay $20 for 250k platinum.
Just my opinions.
Edited, Dec 28th 2007 3:28pm by Reyla
I'll report anyone in a heartbeat if I have hard evidence of them buying or selling in-game items. I'll also boot them from my guild or my group and add them to my ignore list.
I realize it's common, and 'everyone' does it, and it's 'no big deal'.....as far as I'm concerned that attitude is, precisely, what's at the heart of the problem.
Edited, Dec 28th 2007 11:39pm by Elinda
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Buying/playing other high level toons that you haven't played before goes a little further than just having played long enough to know what it is a class does and what you should do with the class.
I have access to an 80 necro if I so chose to log it on, but I have no interest in it. Sure I know lots of specifics about necros and how to play them and all that, but when actually out battling with that certain class there are so many things I would do badly and inefficiently until it actually became second nature.
That is where you're better off growing a toon yourself if you do not have past experience actually playing the class, you can have a plan for playing it, but if you dont actually have practice doing so there is a lot of trial and error to be faced as you actually hone the skill to properly play the class.
I have access to an 80 necro if I so chose to log it on, but I have no interest in it. Sure I know lots of specifics about necros and how to play them and all that, but when actually out battling with that certain class there are so many things I would do badly and inefficiently until it actually became second nature.
That is where you're better off growing a toon yourself if you do not have past experience actually playing the class, you can have a plan for playing it, but if you dont actually have practice doing so there is a lot of trial and error to be faced as you actually hone the skill to properly play the class.
There're more ways to come by accounts than buying them. Maybe their family member quit playing and they took over their account. Maybe it was a friend or guild member that gave their account info to someone when they stopped playing.
Although it's against the EULA, I don't have anything against buying accounts. It's the high level characters on them that I don't think should be traded around. Buy an account with 6 years of Vet rewards available, but delete the old characters on it.
There are two big problems with buying high level characters. One is that unless you've levelled that class up yourself, you're not going to know everything you should. The other is that when you take over a character you inherit their reputation too. If the original owner was a tool and made it on a lot of people's ignore list, people will take a while to change their opinion of the "new and improved" person behind the avatar.
Although it's against the EULA, I don't have anything against buying accounts. It's the high level characters on them that I don't think should be traded around. Buy an account with 6 years of Vet rewards available, but delete the old characters on it.
There are two big problems with buying high level characters. One is that unless you've levelled that class up yourself, you're not going to know everything you should. The other is that when you take over a character you inherit their reputation too. If the original owner was a tool and made it on a lot of people's ignore list, people will take a while to change their opinion of the "new and improved" person behind the avatar.
What makes you think SoE is not behind the selling of high level characters or plat & gear? On Zek lately there has been a, forever changing†bot in general and NewPlayer channel advertising PL and plat at a site. Sony, I guess banned the account but he pops up 5 min later. And of coarse promptly is put on ignore list. Until SoE bands that one, again and again. Which makes me wonder 1) every time SoE bans him they get more money for an account if they wanted to or I know they do…they could banned the card # or the IP address if they wanted to…or 2) they are Behind it, secretly endorsing it, is my guess. We are just a slowly dwindling profit center for them. So why not squeeze as much as they can.
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Getting RL cash involved in a game like everquest,is a bad idea.
Is eq going to be "The richest person,has the best stuff" rather then the person who works on their toon and actually plays the game?
If your not willing to play the game,don't. It ruins things for those who do.
Is eq going to be "The richest person,has the best stuff" rather then the person who works on their toon and actually plays the game?
If your not willing to play the game,don't. It ruins things for those who do.
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Posted: Dec 29 2007 at 8:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) there is nothing wrong with buying an account. most people who have multiple accounts share them with friends anyway, its not really any differant.
Like I said, opinions differ.
I am curious how buying plat hurts the game. Do you mean because of farmers? Farming has been a part of EQ since 1999, before plat selling existed. Ever been to a Rubicite Armor camp or an Ancient Cyclops camp? The plat I buy is already in the game. It's not counterfeit. Either I farm it or someone else does and I pay them for it. Either way, it's still farmed.
I am curious how buying plat hurts the game. Do you mean because of farmers? Farming has been a part of EQ since 1999, before plat selling existed. Ever been to a Rubicite Armor camp or an Ancient Cyclops camp? The plat I buy is already in the game. It's not counterfeit. Either I farm it or someone else does and I pay them for it. Either way, it's still farmed.
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
Thing is,plat wise. The farmers mostly bot camps from what I have seen (on zek)
24/7 You cant say thats farming,thats useing a 3rd party program to play 6 toons and kill the same camps over and over in instances.
It screws with the bazaar economy and inflates plat value at an alarming rate. It leaves the ones who don't buy plat to pay overly inflated prices for everything. Works like,x person does not want to farm their plat,they buy some. y person who does not buy plat has to work more to farm more plat to keep up with inflated prices.
Thats why its a meh.
Edited, Dec 29th 2007 2:13pm by MortredSoulrend
24/7 You cant say thats farming,thats useing a 3rd party program to play 6 toons and kill the same camps over and over in instances.
It screws with the bazaar economy and inflates plat value at an alarming rate. It leaves the ones who don't buy plat to pay overly inflated prices for everything. Works like,x person does not want to farm their plat,they buy some. y person who does not buy plat has to work more to farm more plat to keep up with inflated prices.
Thats why its a meh.
Edited, Dec 29th 2007 2:13pm by MortredSoulrend
Reyla wrote:
Like I said, opinions differ.
I am curious how buying plat hurts the game. Do you mean because of farmers? Farming has been a part of EQ since 1999, before plat selling existed. Ever been to a Rubicite Armor camp or an Ancient Cyclops camp? The plat I buy is already in the game. It's not counterfeit. Either I farm it or someone else does and I pay them for it. Either way, it's still farmed.
I am curious how buying plat hurts the game. Do you mean because of farmers? Farming has been a part of EQ since 1999, before plat selling existed. Ever been to a Rubicite Armor camp or an Ancient Cyclops camp? The plat I buy is already in the game. It's not counterfeit. Either I farm it or someone else does and I pay them for it. Either way, it's still farmed.
First and most noticable effect is inflated baz prices. But, this business is not just operating in EQ, where fortunately the size of the world/numbers of players is large so the farmers make less impact, it's pervasive, it's untaxed, illegal and against the rules...cheating. Less of an impact perhaps but an annoyance, none-the-less are people ending up with high level toons they don't know how to play. There is spamming by the sellers..yes, another 'annoyance', ....but it starts adding up.
There are games where you can buy items and upgrades with real money legitemately. I didn't choose to play one of those games.
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Posted: Dec 29 2007 at 11:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i really doubt buying and selling plat has anything to do with the overinflated bazzar prices.
The only way you have inflated bazaar prices is if there is price fixing or if one toon has monopoly of an item ( to much stabbing in the back to cooperate for price fixing). Other then those, the Bazaar is one of the freest markets even compared to real life. You can not wrong a player for buying an item, using it or just turning it over and selling it for higher prices….and no one can stop his competition for selling it lower, and in turn, said player, lowering his price. Armourcarr has yet to leave any bruises from twisting any players arm from buying from him. The market is controlled strictly by supply and demand. If you don’t like the price then farm and sell for a lower price. If anything over farming on a server lowers prices. Example two Christmas’s ago a guild on Zek was able to crash Fear and reboot zone and either mob had an AoN or they crashed it again until it had. Fear was dropping 10-20 AoN’s a day instead of the once every real life three days. In turn on Zek AoE’s were selling for fewer than 100k. A few days earlier they were selling for around 200k plus. When these new Dewerium jewelry came out, Traders were selling everything to make the high end item at around 3-400k a piece. Now you can make one for about 150k or less… “Supply & Demand†and of coarse a little up to date knowledge of game does help also. Bazaar exsist because of Laziness...Just like real life!
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Armourcarr, Zek Bazaar Trader.
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The only way you have inflated bazaar prices is if there is price fixing or if one toon has monopoly of an item ( to much stabbing in the back to cooperate for price fixing).
One one hand I do not believe this exact scenario is happening on a large scale in EQ because other than some discoverable and bannable duping I do not believe a way to pull platinum out of thin air has been widely exploited. However, someone who simply exists to farm platinum then sell it to consumers sort of increases the supply of spendable currency, therefore causing a type of inflation if it happens on a large enough scale.
Edited, Dec 29th 2007 6:46pm by JoltinJoe
Still the flooding of the market with plat only works if the player is willing to pay the higher price. I as a trader, of course, will try to get as much for my items as I can. In turn the buyer usually is going to pay the least he can for the item. The only way the supply is change is if the influx of plat buys the entire demanded item. There is no interest being paid for in-game plat. No in-game banker is giving loans to players so this kind of inflation does not exsist in game. And SoE controls the rate of plat dropping in game. Unless a player transfers with a huge amount of plat from one server to another, the plat is generated by in server play. And SoE monitors that also. There is also the loss of plat by players leaving the game with items and plat on them, never to return. As a trader, I have notice an increase of buyers on Friday when school lets out and the younger players get their Mommies bought plat.
I have a lot of plat from buying, selling and trading in the bazaar, but when I buy something I buy the least expensive item of the same I can find. If, as a trader, I have the only sought after item than I will price it at what I think some one will pay. If it sells to fast, and I get another, I will raise the price until someone else gets same item and lowers his price below mine. The purchaser doesn’t have to pay my price, and in fact can advertise to buy for his price on general chat. So the fact there is a lot of plat on a server and inflates prices does not hold water to me, sorry,
Armourcarr, Zek Bazaar Trader
Edited, Dec 30th 2007 12:48pm by Vinney
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I have a lot of plat from buying, selling and trading in the bazaar, but when I buy something I buy the least expensive item of the same I can find. If, as a trader, I have the only sought after item than I will price it at what I think some one will pay. If it sells to fast, and I get another, I will raise the price until someone else gets same item and lowers his price below mine. The purchaser doesn’t have to pay my price, and in fact can advertise to buy for his price on general chat. So the fact there is a lot of plat on a server and inflates prices does not hold water to me, sorry,
Armourcarr, Zek Bazaar Trader
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I just thought I'd add that a few months ago on my lowbie alt on zek, I mentioned in the bazaar that buying accounts was bannable and a violation of the eula, during a discussion about the pros of ebaying and plat purchases.
It caused a firestorm of comments about how "they won't ban you" and "everybody does it" types of statements from an apparently, very large and active ebay-mentality cuture that (still) exists there.
From june of '04 to nov. '05, I left EQ because sony wasn't doing anything about this. Nowadays, I mainly just play for my own sake and try not to think about what other folks are doing. I like to sorta pretend that buying of accounts and the like is still getting people banned, but I honestly have no idea what SOE is doing about it.
I've run into some higher level types over the years that I suspected of ebaying because they were lost in common zones and asking very dumb questions, but there's no way I could ever prove anything.
But morally, yeah it's wrong obviously, because it's cheating. The rich kids with mommy's credit card get unfair advantages over the working-class kids? I see enough of that in real life - I don't need it in-game.
Just my 2 cents.
It caused a firestorm of comments about how "they won't ban you" and "everybody does it" types of statements from an apparently, very large and active ebay-mentality cuture that (still) exists there.
From june of '04 to nov. '05, I left EQ because sony wasn't doing anything about this. Nowadays, I mainly just play for my own sake and try not to think about what other folks are doing. I like to sorta pretend that buying of accounts and the like is still getting people banned, but I honestly have no idea what SOE is doing about it.
I've run into some higher level types over the years that I suspected of ebaying because they were lost in common zones and asking very dumb questions, but there's no way I could ever prove anything.
But morally, yeah it's wrong obviously, because it's cheating. The rich kids with mommy's credit card get unfair advantages over the working-class kids? I see enough of that in real life - I don't need it in-game.
Just my 2 cents.
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From june of '04 to nov. '05, I left EQ because sony wasn't doing anything about this. Nowadays, I mainly just play for my own sake and try not to think about what other folks are doing. I like to sorta pretend that buying of accounts and the like is still getting people banned, but I honestly have no idea what SOE is doing about it.
Course the spammers are getting pretty mainstream, maybe when the IRS decides to try and tax them the gaming companies will have to ligitimize them...in some way.
I've tried but I just can't seem to change the minds of millions of gamers about this...'sigh'.
A couple years ago, SoE did start a server in EQII that allowed some legit buying of stuff. Don't recall the details and nver heard much about how it went. It was probably more expensive to buy stuff legit from SoE, that was limited to one server, than it is to buy stuff underground that doesn't carry the limitations. Anyone know anything?
I'm sour about this.
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i have 8 accounts 2 are bought from a friend.
after lvling 2 accounts back in the 2000-2002 days. i lvled 16 characters all classes from 1 to 20. after doing the first 2-3 characters your just repeating the same quests and grinding the same areas. just playing a diff class.
when i thought about adding more accounts so i could 6 box. i didn't really want to redo the same thing over and over and over again. so i bought my buddies accounts. came with 60 enchanter, 50 cleric and 45 druid on one and the other account 45 druid and 50 beast.
i used them to powerlvl the other 4 accounts. i wouldn't buy other accounts just to play them. i just wanted to help to lvl my own faster.
but if one lvled 8 classes and then wanted to box. they could pay the transfer fees. or buy someone elses. but it is important to learn the classes
i powerleveled all my characters from 20 to 50. and for 3 yrs i never knew about druid. wiz kiting. cleric pacifing. and many other useful group and soloing spells. i didn't learn the class. this is where a got 2 more new accounts and started lvling from 1 to 50 for all classes again. i love it so much more. the two accounts i bought i don't use now at all.
it's easy to see why so many buy accounts or plat. etc. time is not on all of our sides. i have a 3 yr old and a comute to work double the time a yr ago. this is why i box. but also don't have time to farm.
buying plat kills the game. but spending weeks farming just to get some armor kills it to. people leave for other games cus the drops are more level based.
the games are changing. to cater to groups but also to cater to shorter goals. making quick quests feel great and keep you coming back to the game.
i doubt any game will ever compete with everquest in the epic time it took to play to get to great lvls and get good gear. but the 3rd party selling has taken it all away. my first 3 yrs were a great grind. but very easy since.
i left eq for wow and lotro faster pace and great for small time frames for playing
after lvling 2 accounts back in the 2000-2002 days. i lvled 16 characters all classes from 1 to 20. after doing the first 2-3 characters your just repeating the same quests and grinding the same areas. just playing a diff class.
when i thought about adding more accounts so i could 6 box. i didn't really want to redo the same thing over and over and over again. so i bought my buddies accounts. came with 60 enchanter, 50 cleric and 45 druid on one and the other account 45 druid and 50 beast.
i used them to powerlvl the other 4 accounts. i wouldn't buy other accounts just to play them. i just wanted to help to lvl my own faster.
but if one lvled 8 classes and then wanted to box. they could pay the transfer fees. or buy someone elses. but it is important to learn the classes
i powerleveled all my characters from 20 to 50. and for 3 yrs i never knew about druid. wiz kiting. cleric pacifing. and many other useful group and soloing spells. i didn't learn the class. this is where a got 2 more new accounts and started lvling from 1 to 50 for all classes again. i love it so much more. the two accounts i bought i don't use now at all.
it's easy to see why so many buy accounts or plat. etc. time is not on all of our sides. i have a 3 yr old and a comute to work double the time a yr ago. this is why i box. but also don't have time to farm.
buying plat kills the game. but spending weeks farming just to get some armor kills it to. people leave for other games cus the drops are more level based.
the games are changing. to cater to groups but also to cater to shorter goals. making quick quests feel great and keep you coming back to the game.
i doubt any game will ever compete with everquest in the epic time it took to play to get to great lvls and get good gear. but the 3rd party selling has taken it all away. my first 3 yrs were a great grind. but very easy since.
i left eq for wow and lotro faster pace and great for small time frames for playing
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ltcommander wrote:
it's easy to see why so many buy accounts or plat. etc. time is not on all of our sides. i have a 3 yr old and a comute to work double the time a yr ago. this is why i box. but also don't have time to farm.
If you don't have time to play games, don't play them. But, to pay SoE to play EQ and then claim you don't have the time to play it, but somehow think you need or deserve the same amount of plat or level of gear as someone who plays gobs of hours is ...bull...quite frankly.
Maybe try raising just ONE toon. You might find you have lots of time to farm.
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