Best, well-rounded solo class?Follow

I doubt there is a "best." You're telling me at 57 you can't ANY single dark blues?? That doesn't sound right to me.

Okay, if you're hunting underground, maybe. But outdoors, if you have Run AA or SoW pot or horse, you can park pet near a zone - run out and tag a single - and pull it back to pet (can't you?). My 56 druid was having no probs finding dark blue singles this way.

Druids are great at soloing and can just root rot indoors/underground, though harmony/lull lines prolly don't work there (they work great outdoors, but again, my druid found several places to hunt singles so as to not have to fool w/ lulling).

Wizards can root and can quad kite. W/ a really long lasting root you can start fight by rooting one, killing other - killing first one if you have mana.

Necro could keep the extra one feared and dotted or rooted - or use screaming terror.

Mages are "brittle" this way. I'd stick w/ your mage and try harder to find safe pulls. Park pet by zone or in a "safe" place to fight. Invis self. Scout zone. Tag a mob w/ a low lvl spell and pull to pet. Don't always pull in a straight line - sometimes it's best to pull to zone wall - then lead it to pet.

Necro fits the total bill, but I disagree on your bard statement. IMHO, they are the best soloers. They may not be the fastest, but they can kite down swarms of mobs without using any mana (save higher level charm kiting).

Where are you soloing?

Mages are insane in the 50's solo. even without their epic.

I would not play a bard if your going to mainly solo,but. They can kite decently in the 50's to 80.

Try another zone that does not need singles?

I can solo pretty efficiently with the Druid, sticking to non-summoning mobs. If there are charming animals around it's just that much better. If I can find a ready supply of charmable animals I can go pretty much non-stop w/o running out of mana. If I can find an animal to charm I can use it to tank summoning mobs, but it's dicey business - if charm breaks I evac, run, or die.

Druids are good for exploring as they come with innate invis, soe, track etc.

Druids can paci in outdoor zones to avoid adds, but also have strong roots to control adds indoors....they can also evac.

Most classes have particular mobs/zones that they can solo with.

Mages are good soloer's. You're either doing something wrong, or doing it in the wrong place.

Necros are best all around soloers.






Edited, Dec 24th 2007 2:38am by Elinda

To answer your question as it was asked

My cleric can solo in the ways you are talking about...

Has pacify line of spells...

Can root...

Can gate

Is better at 60 against undead, but still can handle blue non dead...

Obviously if you are killing whites at 60, clerics are not quite there, but i still make good exp solo...

hope that helps

I was referring to chant kiting, which although slow, is (well, when I still played) an easy way to gain xp. Even the new aged "Auto circle and watch TV" bards can join in on it.

Necromancer.

The Necromancer is the best all around solo class by far.

I soloed to level 80 in Bazaar gear, no group or raid gear.

I have full Praetorian armor I bought with Orux that I soloed 100%. I /ooc in Bazaar to make a group of 3 then I soloed for about 3000 Orux.

I soloed all of my Omens of War runes for spells in MPG when I had 6k HP and 5k mana self buffed.

I now solo in Crystallos, the end zone of the latest expansion with 9k HP and 9600 mana self buffed. In fact, I only want to solo red con mobs. Anything less feels like a waste of my time.

I can split mobs.
I can FD.
I can Evacuate.
I can be Invisible and Invisible to Undead.
I can Snare and Root.
I can Mesmerize.
I can Fear.
I can resurrect myself.

In 8 years I have played every class. I have a Warrior, Monk, Berserker, Cleric, Bard, Shaman, Magician, Wizard, Rogue and Druid all level 60 to 75 and the only reason they are not 80 like my Necromancer is because my Necromancer is 10,000 times easier and faster to solo.

I get frustrated how pitiful my other classes kill speed and utility are in comparison so I always log back in to my Necromancer.

As to your list:

So, what I'm asking is this - whats the best solo class in the game? The best meaning:
-Can somehow split spawns (Or handle adds well enough that it doesn't matter)
** Necromancer can split, root rot or kite 3 yellow con mobs at the same time
-Can solo from 1-60, AT LEAST (And do so well enough you level as fast/faster than grouping)
**Necromancer can solo 1 to 80 and beyond that once the level cap is raised again.
-Doesn't have too much downtime (2-3 minutes between fights is acceptable 35-50 and 3-5 minutes 51+, but beyond that isn't)
**Necromancer has 2 minutes med time after every 4 or 5 fights even at level 80.
-Can handle bad pulls somehow (As in, not die from it... Whether it be from mez, gate, running, or whatever).
**All of the above
-Can handle outdoor and indoor zones.
**Necromancer can handle Indoor, Outdoor and Instances.


Edited, Dec 24th 2007 8:34am by Reyla

I would vote Necromancer as well, if you need any reasons, just look at Reylas post, that says it all basicly

As for bards, we also have to be selective about which spots we swarm kite(charm) in. Mobs needs to be social, and we need a big enough field to be able to solo.
But getting 6 aas per lesson (ty frostfell) is not bad at lvl 80 solo imo.

Edited, Dec 24th 2007 5:36am by bohlas

I was thinking about root rotting last night, actually, after I made my last post... But as for kiting 3 yellow cons - is that possible at ~50-60 in velks? I love that zone, and would like to stay there from 39-60 if possible, but past the kobolds (Up to the boss mob), all the mobs are grouped together and are 50+... They're insane experience even at 56 (I got 3-11% AA and 2-3% xp per kill with a level 75 warrior when I was there at 55 on mage) but a pain since they're in groups of 2 or 3... Can a necro handle these situations well? Thats what I meant for being able to split, or crowd control... <50 crowd control is easy, 50+ ... Not so much.


Heh... My mage has 4k mana, over 2k hp, 14mana/tick and 6hp/tick regen gear - self buffed... Not to mention 340 or so int (Not that it matters) - I complain about him because its a pain to find places he can solo as well as he did... I know there are places I can solo, but not for 2-3% xp per kill (At least on my mage). I know there are other classes that can, however - but thats all beside the point, I was just interested in getting everyone's opinions.



Thanks all, I realize that necro is probably the best hands down but I'd like to keep the discussion going - I'm sure there are other classes that the argument can be made for...

Druids are great for outdoor hunting, I had a level 55 myself back in the day and he was a blast, but was god awful indoors (iirc, you can't use druid roots indoors... Or any of their crowd control, or any of their good spells for that matter)

Another plus for Druids: They're a great group assest. I got my healing AA's nearly maxed out. My guildies have no qualms with a Druid MHing in most any situation.

To be honest, I do not know. I made level 60 before Velks existed back when the only expansion was Kunark.

If you keep your spells up to date and use tribute for Burning Affliction, Affliction Haste and Affliction Efficiency, you should be able to root rot at least 2 yellow cons in Velks. I can't imagine you can kite there.

Cilrail said (I messed up the quote syntax somehow):

As a necro in Velks I was pet tanking 1 spider at a time, I think I was using the monk pet (can't recall the level) wasn't too tough with the pet heal and the necro health trasnsfer spell.

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I was using rogue pet (was a level or two from monk). My tactics were somewhat risky in that I would tap tank the 2 mobs while landing snare on both and then I would aggro kite up and down the short zone in tunnel (getting smacked every time I passed the mobs in that little hall).

I would focus all my dots on one of the mobs, even nuking and lifetapping (not worried about mana efficiency). Then I would resnare the 2nd mob and kill it the same way. This broke up the spawn timers for me. By the time I had all the main floor at zoneline spawns dead (and spaced out on respawn) my downtime was spread nicely throughout their respawn so I could let my dots do their damage and maintain mana better.

If it got too hairy I'd fd or even zone to save my pet (if it had gear or hp buffs). Virtue and DS pots might add a measure of safety and dps to this but I was generally self-buffed only. I could only do this at the zoneline area which means I needed that camp to myself (so half the time I went there I would have to leave because area was taken by a group or a PLer). When a group would have me I joined them (I just ran to Velks... some spiders need to die).

So as a mage... I would probably have to pull one of the golems (first spawns in velks) and burn mana fast to drop it. Then I would possibly need to zone to reset aggro and allow for med. Next pull is just the one golem. So I might need 5 zoning outs to "ghetto feign death" as it were but I could control the Velk's entrance solo on any class that could survive tanking 2 in the time it takes to drop 1. A root, mez or lull class would rarely need to zone.

I spent most of my time in this level range in Blackfeather Roost. The entrance area is like King Xorbb's Gorge --built to kite.

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There really is no argument. Necro is the best all around overall soloer. Indoor/Outdoor. FD, snare, self-evac. Rez.

But if you just want to open the discussion to how well some classes can solo in both indoor and outdoor zones, then there's plenty of room for other classes.

Druid I would add that while they cannot Harmony indoors there are ways to split mobs in some situations. Pull mobs within easy reach of the succor point, snare the one you want, then succor. Or if mobs do not see invis, you can make camp anywhere in the zone you can get back to from the succor point.

Wizards, ditto. Better dps than druid, can quad indoor and out, and can split mobs in the same fashion using Evac in certain situations.

Enchanters can Charm solo in almost any zone. They can Pacify and mez and Root and Stun. Their Memblur line of spells can save your butt in many situations too.

Clerics I will add that they get a Memblur type spell also called Atone, but not until level 32 and it's a rather small chance to blur.

Potions make a big difference when soloing melee classes. If you don't have the pocketbook to support them they are also harder to keep geared well enough to take on the harder content at 55+ areas.

Monks can solo pretty effectively and of course they can FD and split. Their Mend ability and their dps make them probably the melee class with the fastest kills and least downtime when soloing. They just can't snare or root without something like thrown potions.

Shadowknight can FD, split mobs, tap tank, root, snare and more.

Paladin can Root, Heal, Stun and Pacify up to level 55 mobs. Soloing paladins will xp slower than the other classes. Kills just take longer, unless you only focus on undead mobs.

Edited, Dec 25th 2007 9:21pm by mfbrownbear