just gone onto the class 'forums' section and found the forums to be replaced with links to Allah wiki.
No offence intended, and the work is much appreciated, but IMHO the forums worked better because you could ask any question you wanted, were as now its all broken down into sections.
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I am sure you want an official reply but I think it was partly due to the fact that those forums were rarely, if ever used.
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
Try here
If you have a class question that isn't answered there, ask here! =)
[Edited because I write like a moron: If you have a class question that isn't answered on the class wiki areas, ask in the forum, here (the main EQ forum) for answers!]
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 4:44pm by tovin
If you have a class question that isn't answered there, ask here! =)
[Edited because I write like a moron: If you have a class question that isn't answered on the class wiki areas, ask in the forum, here (the main EQ forum) for answers!]
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 4:44pm by tovin
The class forums are not replaced; they are still available through a link on the wiki classes page.
I put the wiki page over the class forums on the sidebar because as Reyla said, they are extremely rarely used. Most of them see posts 3-4 times a year.
Class questions can still be posted in the class forums, but I would not object, at all, if they were simply posted here.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 11:40pm by Groogle
I put the wiki page over the class forums on the sidebar because as Reyla said, they are extremely rarely used. Most of them see posts 3-4 times a year.
Class questions can still be posted in the class forums, but I would not object, at all, if they were simply posted here.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 11:40pm by Groogle
I'm not satisfied with this change either, especially as it's stated there:
Keep the class forums alive! Please add a serious link...
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You may access the old class discussion pages here.
Keep the class forums alive! Please add a serious link...
Changed the wording around a bit, feel free to play with it further.
The class discussion forums do have some useful pieces of information in them, but are now primarily valuable as a repository of information -- a purpose for which a wiki will eventually be a better resource -- than as a place to ask questions.
The three people that have asked about it in the 72 hours since I shifted it over are more than usually post in those forums in that time period :p imo, having dead forums where questions can take some time to be answered is not a good thing.
The class discussion forums do have some useful pieces of information in them, but are now primarily valuable as a repository of information -- a purpose for which a wiki will eventually be a better resource -- than as a place to ask questions.
The three people that have asked about it in the 72 hours since I shifted it over are more than usually post in those forums in that time period :p imo, having dead forums where questions can take some time to be answered is not a good thing.
Groogle wrote:
having dead forums where questions can take some time to be answered is not a good thing.
I totally agree. post yer questions here, if ye have any. else, help Groogle with the EQ class wiki. improving the WIKI is time much better spent, than discussing it here :-P
Still a noob. :-P
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I'm a old fart so these new fangled things like wikis and the editing of them is new to me. I have started doing a little with the druid section but need to ask a few "tech" questions and " how too's "...where would the correct fourm for that be?
"If you ask me, we could do with a little less motivation. The people who are causing all the trouble seem highly motivated to me. Serial killers, stock swindlers, drug dealers, Christian Republicans"
George Carlin.
George Carlin.
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I'm a old fart so these new fangled things like wikis and the editing of them is new to me. I have started doing a little with the druid section but need to ask a few "tech" questions and " how too's "...where would the correct fourm for that be?
Either the class forums (which are linked off the wiki page) or the general forum (this one) would be fine, but you're almost certain to get a faster response in the general forum.
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I would like to make a personal note about Wiki.
For EQ and games, np, fine way to get informations.
But for some precise and true infos, Wiki sucks. A lot of wrong assessments. Wiki is NOT a dictionary, its only personal definitions. I heard someone call it "the end of the culture" or "sub-culture", as it can be seen by many as an official database, but is only what is known by 90% of the population as the truth that most of the time is wrong :)
What im not sure is about the moderation.
Is there any moderators in Wiki to correct statements ?
For EQ and games, np, fine way to get informations.
But for some precise and true infos, Wiki sucks. A lot of wrong assessments. Wiki is NOT a dictionary, its only personal definitions. I heard someone call it "the end of the culture" or "sub-culture", as it can be seen by many as an official database, but is only what is known by 90% of the population as the truth that most of the time is wrong :)
What im not sure is about the moderation.
Is there any moderators in Wiki to correct statements ?
Ring has a good point in his post above.
Ok my stupid wiki question. How do I insert a hyper link? For instance....I add charming to the list of druid abalities to solo. I want to write up a guid to charm soloing....how do I link it to I can click charm and go the the write up.
Either the class forums (which are linked off the wiki page) or the general forum (this one) would be fine, but you're almost certain to get a faster response in the general forum.
Ok my stupid wiki question. How do I insert a hyper link? For instance....I add charming to the list of druid abalities to solo. I want to write up a guid to charm soloing....how do I link it to I can click charm and go the the write up.
Groogle wrote:
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I'm a old fart so these new fangled things like wikis and the editing of them is new to me. I have started doing a little with the druid section but need to ask a few "tech" questions and " how too's "...where would the correct fourm for that be?
Either the class forums (which are linked off the wiki page) or the general forum (this one) would be fine, but you're almost certain to get a faster response in the general forum.
"If you ask me, we could do with a little less motivation. The people who are causing all the trouble seem highly motivated to me. Serial killers, stock swindlers, drug dealers, Christian Republicans"
George Carlin.
George Carlin.
to link to a specific url [http://address.com What you want it to display as here] -- you must have the http in it to link properly. for an EQ mob, EQ Mob:Mob Name and for another wiki article, Wikiarticlename.
I'm checking all of the edits fairly frequently, so nothing too wrong should be able to be slipped in.
I'm checking all of the edits fairly frequently, so nothing too wrong should be able to be slipped in.
TheEQRing wrote:
I would like to make a personal note about Wiki.
For EQ and games, np, fine way to get informations. But for some precise and true infos, Wiki sucks. A lot of wrong assessments. Wiki is NOT a dictionary, its only personal definitions.
For EQ and games, np, fine way to get informations. But for some precise and true infos, Wiki sucks. A lot of wrong assessments. Wiki is NOT a dictionary, its only personal definitions.
to a certain extent you are right. but please tell me, what is the difference to the raiding info you post on your site then? the big pro for a wiki i.e. is, that even after YOU i.e. stopped playing EQ, people are able to update the raiding info for instance...
TheEQRing wrote:
What im not sure is about the moderation.
Is there any moderators in Wiki to correct statements ?
Is there any moderators in Wiki to correct statements ?
Groogle is one of the most reliable and knowledgable people around - GBaji is one too, but sometimes he needs 2 pages instead of one paragraph ;o). and Groogle is the Alla EQ WIKI mod... sounds fair?
Sir rosleck wrote:
I have started doing a little with the druid section but need to ask a few "tech" questions and " how too's "...where would the correct forum for that be?
hm, questions about "how to wiki on Alla", there is no section yet - or is there, Groogle? questions per se you may ask here, but you can also send a PM to Groogle me thinks...
try the sandbox, it really helps to toy around. AND, use the preview button as much as you can...
Still a noob. :-P
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Characters on Drinal, Povar, EMarr, Firiona Vie.
I don't think any of the wikis have written a long wiki guide yet, but we almost exclusively adhere to MediaWiki standard syntax. The wiki software is custom, so some conventions may be a little off.
I've been slacking a bit the last week, but I'm almost done with school stuff so I'm going to get cracking again.
I've been slacking a bit the last week, but I'm almost done with school stuff so I'm going to get cracking again.
The main advantage from many of the class-specific forums was that it was easy to discuss items relevant to that class without having to wade through the general forums. There may not be a large quantity of posts in some classes, but at least you could see at a glance all the posts relevant to that class.
Certain classes have abilities that have no relevance to other classes. For example, necros discussing what they can kill solo has little relevance to what a rogue can kill. Similarly, necros discussing what they can do to enhance their group desirability through techniques mean little to a monk.
I second the desire to have real links back to the original server forums. At first I did not see the link. I had to read this post (and luckily found it or I may have never found the class forums) before seeing the link in the text.
Certain classes have abilities that have no relevance to other classes. For example, necros discussing what they can kill solo has little relevance to what a rogue can kill. Similarly, necros discussing what they can do to enhance their group desirability through techniques mean little to a monk.
I second the desire to have real links back to the original server forums. At first I did not see the link. I had to read this post (and luckily found it or I may have never found the class forums) before seeing the link in the text.
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Kajolus, i know my own EQ site is not the truth.
But i drive a blog.
And i was not talking about Wiki EQ which is a good way of sharing infos.
Groogle is doing something i wouldnt have the time and patience to do.
No, what i was referring to, for example a search about roman cathedrals art or Picasso. wiki is definatley not a good source for real knowledge :)
But i drive a blog.
And i was not talking about Wiki EQ which is a good way of sharing infos.
Groogle is doing something i wouldnt have the time and patience to do.
No, what i was referring to, for example a search about roman cathedrals art or Picasso. wiki is definatley not a good source for real knowledge :)
I'll be adding a direct link to each class forum at the bottom of each class wiki page.
I'll be changing the style of citation links as well.
Edited, Dec 1st 2007 10:43pm by Groogle
I'll be changing the style of citation links as well.
Edited, Dec 1st 2007 10:43pm by Groogle
Maybe the link on the wiki page can be made more prominent so it's easily catchable. I think, however, we are better served by having the wiki link on the template versus the class forums.
Remember that anyone can edit the wiki, so if you see something wrong or something lacking, you can fix it yourself instead of waiting for admin intervention.
Bear in mind the EQ wiki is in its beta stage. There are quirks.
Remember that anyone can edit the wiki, so if you see something wrong or something lacking, you can fix it yourself instead of waiting for admin intervention.
Bear in mind the EQ wiki is in its beta stage. There are quirks.
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Groogle wrote:
I'll be adding a direct link to each class forum at the bottom of each class wiki page.
http://forums.beastlords.org
and not to the Bst class forum, which would be
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/classes.html?class=15
I think that now even less people will find the Alla class forums than before the change. You are right that there haven't been many posts anyway, but still it was a source of information (which can only partly be fulfilled by the Wiki).
This is surely the death of the class forums.
Edited, Dec 3rd 2007 7:33am by bbot
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At the Bst class wiki page, the link goes to
http://forums.beastlords.org
and not to the Bst class forum, which would be
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/classes.html?class=15
http://forums.beastlords.org
and not to the Bst class forum, which would be
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/classes.html?class=15
That's because I haven't added said link yet.
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