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#1 Nov 13 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, where do I go to find information on the 'systematic spell research system' now that all my runes, words, and pages are no longer needed in research? Actually I never heard of this system....must have been sleeping. Appreciate any leads on where to find out about it. Thanks in advance. Jaelithian Fyreheyre, Level 65 Wizard
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You can find all things about tradeskilling at www.eqtraders.com

When I last did spell research, I had phased out of doing combines with runes and pages and was making spell component 'stuff' in Corathus Creep.

With DoDH you were able to start crafting higher level spells, but, as you mentioned it was no longer rune/word/page combines. Instead it's creating multiple sub-combines and finally at the last combining them with a parchment or vellum.

Again when I was last doing it, the parchment/vellum was the limiting ingrediant as they are drops from higher end zones.

..anyway check out EQ traders..
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#3 Nov 13 2007 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
These aren't in our DB yet, but here are most of the new subcombines for spells. (These produce ingredients that are now used in spell combines.)

Single Focus Spells


Focus Primitive Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 52 - Stiff Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Arcane

Focus Rudimentary Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 52 - Crude Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Arcane

Focus Crude Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 52 - Rough Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Arcane

Focus Makeshift Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 52 - Cleaned Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Elementary Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 70 - Supple Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Modest Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 90 - Fine Runic Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Simple Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 110 - Fine Supple Runic Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 120 - Crude Spell Scroll, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Refined Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 170 - Fine Runic Spell Scroll, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Intricate Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 220 - Fine Runic Papyrus, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Elaborate Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 351 - Runic Parchment, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Ornate Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 404 - Fine Runic Vellum, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Runed Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 427 - Fine Runic Paper, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Quill of the Coercer







Mass Focus Spells


Focus Mass Primitive Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 62 - Crude Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Arcane

Focus Mass Rudimentary Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 62 - Pristine Crude Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Arcane

Focus Mass Crude Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 62 - Pristine Rough Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus , Quill of the Arcane

Focus Mass Makeshift Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 62 - Fine Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Elementary Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 79 - Pristine Supple Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Modest Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 99 - Pristine Fine Runic Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Simple Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 119 - Pristine Fine Supple Runic Hide, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 162 - Runic Spell Scroll, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Refined Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 211 - Runic Papyrus, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Intricate Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 323 - Fine Vellum Parchment, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Elaborate Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 395 - Runic Vellum, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer



Focus Mass Ornate Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty 424 - Runic Paper, Ink Additive of the Nameless, Conjuring Thickener, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ink of Prexus, Quill of the Coercer

Focus Mass Runed Spellcaster’s Essence - Difficulty UKN - Not listed in task, cannot find a working recipe. Unresearchable?



Enchanted Spell Parchments


Primitive Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 17 - A Piece of Parchment, Primitive Binding Solution, Primitive Binding Powder, Primitive Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Rudimentary Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 37 - A Piece of Parchment, Rudimentary Binding Solution, Rudimentary Binding Powder, Rudimentary Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Crude Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 58 - A Piece of Parchment, Crude Binding Solution, Crude Binding Powder, Crude Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Makeshift Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 83 - A Piece of Parchment, Makeshift Binding Solution, Makeshift Binding Powder, Makeshift Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Elementary Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 118 - A Piece of Parchment, Elementary Binding Solution, Elementary Binding Powder, Elementary Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Modest Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 152 - A Piece of Parchment, Modest Binding Solution, Modest Binding Powder, Modest Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Simple Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 192 - A Piece of Parchment, Simple Binding Solution, Simple Binding Powder, Simple Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty UNK - Unable to find working recipe

Refined Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 272 - A Piece of Parchment, Refined Binding Solution, Refined Binding Powder, Refined Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Intricate Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 312 - A Piece of Parchment, Intricate Binding Solution, Intricate Binding Powder, Intricate Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Elaborate Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 352 - A Piece of Parchment, Elaborate Binding Solution, Elaborate Binding Powder, Elaborate Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Ornate Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 392 - A Piece of Parchment, Ornate Binding Solution, Ornate Binding Powder, Ornate Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence

Runed Enchanted Spell Parchment - Difficulty 432 - A Piece of Parchment, Runed Binding Solution, Runed Binding Powder, Runed Spellcaster’s Empowering Essence
Fire Strike Scrolls


Primitive Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 30 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Primitive Enchanted Spell Parchment

Rudimentary Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 50 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Rudimentary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Crude Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 75 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Crude Enchanted Spell Parchment

Makeshift Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 100 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Makeshift Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elementary Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 135 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Elementary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Modest Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 170 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Modest Enchanted Spell Parchment

Simple Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 210 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Simple Enchanted Spell Parchment

Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 250 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Enchanted Spell Parchment

Refined Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 290 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Refined Enchanted Spell Parchment

Intricate Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 330 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Intricate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elaborate Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 370 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Elaborate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Ornate Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 410 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Ornate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Runed Scroll of Fire Strike - Difficulty 450 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Ro, Runed Enchanted Spell Parchment




Static Strike Scrolls


Primitive Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 28 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Primitive Enchanted Spell Parchment

Rudimentary Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 48 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Rudimentary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Crude Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 72 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Crude Enchanted Spell Parchment

Makeshift Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 98 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Makeshift Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elementary Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 132 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Elementary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Modest Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 167 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Modest Enchanted Spell Parchment

Simple Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 207 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Simple Enchanted Spell Parchment

Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 247 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Enchanted Spell Parchment

Refined Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 287 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Refined Enchanted Spell Parchment

Intricate Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 327 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Intricate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elaborate Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 367 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Elaborate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Ornate Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 407 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Ornate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Runed Scroll of Static Strike - Difficulty 447 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Druzzil Ro, Runed Enchanted Spell Parchment




Frost Strike Scrolls


Primitive Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 30 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Primitive Enchanted Spell Parchment

Rudimentary Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 50 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Rudimentary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Crude Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 75 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Crude Enchanted Spell Parchment

Makeshift Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 100 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Makeshift Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elementary Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 135 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Elementary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Modest Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 170 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Modest Enchanted Spell Parchment

Simple Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 210 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Simple Enchanted Spell Parchment

Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 250 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Enchanted Spell Parchment

Refined Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 290 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Refined Enchanted Spell Parchment

Intricate Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 330 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Intricate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elaborate Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 370 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Elaborate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Ornate Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 410 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Ornate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Runed Scroll of Frost Strike - Difficulty 450 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of E’ci , Runed Enchanted Spell Parchment




Poisoning Scrolls


Primitive Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 32 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn, Primitive Enchanted Spell Parchment

Rudimentary Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 52 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Rudimentary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Crude Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 78 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Crude Enchanted Spell Parchment

Makeshift Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 103 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Makeshift Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elementary Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 138 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn, Elementary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Modest Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 172 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn, Modest Enchanted Spell Parchment

Simple Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 212 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Simple Enchanted Spell Parchment

Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 252 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Enchanted Spell Parchment

Refined Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 292 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn, Refined Enchanted Spell Parchment

Intricate Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 332 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn, Intricate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elaborate Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 372 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Elaborate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Ornate Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 412 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Ornate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Runed Scroll of Poisoning - Difficulty 452 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Saryrn , Runed Enchanted Spell Parchment




Pestilence Scrolls


Primitive Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 34 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous, Primitive Enchanted Spell Parchment

Rudimentary Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 54 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Rudimentary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Crude Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 80 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Crude Enchanted Spell Parchment

Makeshift Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 106 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Makeshift Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elementary Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 140 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous, Elementary Enchanted Spell Parchment

Modest Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 175 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous, Modest Enchanted Spell Parchment

Simple Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 215 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Simple Enchanted Spell Parchment

Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 255 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Enchanted Spell Parchment

Refined Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 295 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous, Refined Enchanted Spell Parchment

Intricate Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 335 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous, Intricate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Elaborate Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 375 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Elaborate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Ornate Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 415 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Ornate Enchanted Spell Parchment

Runed Scroll of Pestilence - Difficulty 455 - Quill of the Arcane, Ink of Bertoxxulous , Runed Enchanted Spell Parchment

Edited, Nov 13th 2007 3:54pm by Groogle
#4 Nov 13 2007 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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#5 Nov 13 2007 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
So I understand that the expansion *just* came out, but where oh where can I go to get spell recipe information if it's not in EQTraders yet?
#6 Nov 14 2007 at 4:55 AM Rating: Decent
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eqtraders is very good about getting new recipies up in a timely manner so it shouldnt be too long before they are posted/cross referenced etc.

kudos soe on yet another plat sink lol trying to get all that money out of the game anyway they can (the latest tailoring & smithing templates come to mind -- but yay an easier way to 300s)

my question is , are they going to attempt to eradicate all the rune/word/page drops because there's a lot of old world swatches made from these hrmmm... i can see a fubar on the horizon if they try lol

but hay , plat sink or no , i'm happy about the old spells being added to the systematic research because many of the components were becoming near impossilbe to find =)
#7 Nov 14 2007 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
I'm way too impatient to wait!! I need to make spells!! How does one go about finding out how to make these spells under the new system? Sheer experimentation? Or can you buy a book from a vendor in POK?
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Wait a minute, can't you still use the words and runes to make spells using the old recipes?
#9 Nov 14 2007 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
You should be able to see at least some recipes ingame in your research kit. There is probably a book on a vendor somewhere, although I don't know where.

Old recipes are currently still functional I believe, but will not be for long.

Ngreth is currently undecided about whether or not old drops will stay intact.
#10 Nov 15 2007 at 4:52 AM Rating: Decent
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my question is , are they going to attempt to eradicate all the rune/word/page drops because there's a lot of old world swatches made from >>these hrmmm... i can see a fubar on the horizon if they try lol
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Old recipes are currently still functional I believe, but will not be for long.

Ngreth is currently undecided about whether or not old drops will stay intact.
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ACK!!! not again! so i guess we can pretty much count on the old world swatch recipies getting friggled by this *sigh*
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Wait a minute, can't you still use the words and runes to make spells using the old recipes?
Pages words and runes are still dropping so I'm assuming combines would still work. These recipes are only good for some spells up through level 60 though.
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#12 Nov 15 2007 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
Oh Lovely!!! I've read each posting in this thread. But haven't heard if anyone has bothered to check the research kits they have already got to see if they may or may not work. So .... does that mean the ones we have now will have to be disposed of and a new one purchased. This is a bloody mess!
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Old recipes no longer work, except for swatches. I tried on all 4 of my intelligent caster/spell researchers. My research tomes no longer contain a list of the recipes I had learned. This change was crazy IMHO, Nevertheless Bazaar Traders are still trying to sell Runes, Words, and Pages - guess the word hasn't gotten out yet.
#14 Nov 15 2007 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
Losing all the old recipes really stinks! I have invested a lot of time not to mention plat in getting my recipes into my spell books and now I have to start all over? Who thought this one up? Booooo Sony >:(

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The lost recipes is a bug. It will (should) be fixed soon.
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