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I am wondering if I need to just quit my guild or what. You tell me!

Here are the chain of events:

1. Log on 8:30a Sat. no high lvl guildies to play with...hunt up a tank to go with my cleric and start a group

2. Go to Vald and as chars leave I fill spots with guildies but we are not strong enough for Vald so we move to Direwind about 3:30pm.

3. 7:30pm a member says they have an hour to play so I send a tell to another guildie letting him know we will have an opening. He heads out to Direwind and helps the group until the spot opens then joins the group.

4. NOW - a Guild Leader "Sally" comes to me via "whisper" on teamspeak and says I should invite "Sam" to my group cause he has been LFG for an hour. I tell her the group is full now.

5. GL "Sally" says to drop last member and invite "Sam". GL continues to give me the reasons why "Sam" should be in my group. I tell GL no, I started this group at 8:30am today and slowly turned it into a guild group and the group is full and I will not bump someone out so "Sam" can join sorry but no.

6. I tell GL "Sally" to come and lead the group and I will log, then
Sally" can invite whoever she wants. NO she is going to log to go to work in 20 min.!!!

5. 5 min. later an item drops...everyone in the group has the item. I ask "so what do you all want to do with this?" A group memeber says "my alt could use it". I say "anyone else have an alt that can use it?" 2 other say sure do. Ok roll for the item. One group member links the item in guild chat and guess what!? "Sam" wants it. Alt is on the way.

6. GL "Sally" gets on teamspeak again to everyone this time and says "Sam" should get the drop. I say sorry but the group voted and decided an alt would get it.

7. Everything explodes. People are saying Mains come first. And so on it goes a huge argument. "Sam" tells me "F... you" I get VERY upset and tell "Sam" NEVER say that to me again. That is not how officers are supposed to treat each other.

8. I then tell everyone "I have had all of this fun I can take, you all do what you want I am logging" Well, "Sam" got in the group and got the loot he wanted.

9. Next day people are talking about it. I am just not commenting. GL "Sally" is talking to individuals about it. We have 3 GL in our guild.

10. At 10pm I start to log for the night. As I am logging I am told an officer meeting is going on now. I stop logging off process and rejoin teamspeak.

11. It is NOT an officers meeting but seems a guild wide meeting. No GLs are there. "Tom" an officer has decided to "clear the air". I tell him this should not be done like this. This should be discussed with the GLs then those that were directly involved. But the meeting continues. You can imagine how it went. Lots of arguements and opinions and "Sam's" version of what happened. A GL "John" logs in and lets the "meeting" continue. I had talked to "John" and "George" the 3rd GL about what had happened and they had said the 3 would discuss it. "John and George" said that the guild rules about looting were decided by the group and no one ever had to invite someone to group if they didn't want to. They would talk the "Sally".

12. I finally was able to tell how this big mess all went down. With other members of the initial group saying "yes that is how it happened" and "yes we voted how we wanted to loot". THEN the GL "John" says "well this needs to be discussed between the GLs." Well........that is what I had been saying all along!! TOO LATE NOW!

13. Now, here is the question. Do I just deguild? I have totally enjoyed this guild until Sat. evening. By staying am I just adding to all the upset? I hate the drama, hate dividing the guild. I never wanted to be a problem. I enjoy helping people. I had all the loot from that spot, I was there so others could get it. I wasn't loot master, I got nothing but xp and being with guildies out of the group, that is all I had wanted. Now, I seem to be the cause of a melt down and I just hate it.

Sorry such a long read but you needed to hear the start to finish.

I had a few random thoughts reading this.

1 "Sally" is a Idiot.
2 "Sam" is a Idiot
3 What ever loot rules that were worked out in the group and agreed upon are the ones you follow. I like mains get first dibs then a alt of a group member who is there. Unless you are farming for someone else or the group agrees to let someone from outside have the item.
4 Loot and or greed is not enought imho to tell a guildy FU
5 Your GL's and Officers seem to have no clue on how to handle guild issues, are they kids?

Making the decision to deguild is a very hard one that you may regret either choice down the road. All I can offer as advice is to take a bit of time to really think it over bofore making your choice.

Thks for your input.

No the GLs are 50+ with jobs, family etc.

And you are both right, it is a lose lose situation.

Sigh

QFT.

On any server there are lots of guilds to choose from. IMHO most of them suck. Why do they suck? Its a matter of opinion. IF you raid a fam guild sucks...if you want to be more social and not raid and raid guild sucks.

One of the hardest things in game and life for that metter is to find and be able to surround your self with folk you enjoy nd share the same goals. In Eq I have been in 4 guilds since POP was new. The first a Noobie guild where I learend to play and made my firest friends. When I out grew it I joined a raid guild and found it wasent my cup of tea. I moved on to a Fam guild that I loved for a log time until I left the game. Now that I am back I am back with that guild.

Like I said before...THink it over will before you make any decisions.

I'm with you. Since I have been back I have spent most of my time playing new alts thru old world stuff and I have loved every min of it. We hit Befallin and I lived there in the old days.

It sounds to me that your guild good a good deal with you. A experianced palyer who knows first hand raid strats! I'm 3 kills away from time access on my name so I appricate the work it takes to get there =D

I'm on the Stromm server and have been since it went live give or take a week.

I didnt care much for Eq2 when I played it myself. To me it fealt like someone was trying to tell me this was home but all of the places were not the same.....herd to figure out how I want to say that....

NP at all....feel free to come in any time you need to vent or want to chat....these fours get a little slow some days =D

From what I understand the expansion will take some of the pc problems away. I love the graphics, the ability to "rent" a griffon for 5 min. and fly where ever you want!!! I like the boats you can drive any place there is water. I am/was a guildleader there. But as you say there are not enough people playing. I am a social person and grouping is my fav thing to do. My guild in VG hate that I am not playing anymore, they keep begging me to come back and lead them lol. It is hard being a GL and no one wants the responsibility. I still manage the website I started and the teamspeak I started for them but logging in became frustrating. Lots of really nice zones, quests, bells and whistles but to me the people make the game.

I wish my hubby played...sigh...he doesn't even know how to turn on a pc!! He is fine with me playing as much as I want. He then gets total control of the remote and he is in heaven...hehe.

My 3rd son (I have 4 grown sons) begged me to play 8 yrs ago. He actually created a lizzy warrior man for me and got him to lvl 10. I sat down and was taken into a fantacy world of monsters, different landscapes and a whole new way of socializing. I could come home from work, change out of my heals and hoes into my jammies and still have company without cleaning house first lol. I can get up on a Sat. morning log in without brushing my hair and there is my high elf cleric looking fresh and pretty in her dusty purple plate armor and perfectly brushed white hair and NO ONE knows I am still in my jammies. I was/am in heaven! lol I totally know why they call it evercrack!!!

Oh, and Sir...I understand what you meant about "you are home but not really".
EQ2 was EQ in the distant future. We saw how the cataclismic (spelling??) event destroyed things as we knew them. I tried to play along with that theme by creating great great great granddaughters to my chars in EQ. Angel(this) became Angel(that), Tawny(this) became Tawny(that), Sweet(this) became Sweet(that) and so forth. It comforted me to know I had not totally left my girls behind but part of them lived on in EQ2 as great great great granddaughters of the originals. Silly me...funny how attached you can get to your chars.

Anyway, you are right, it was home but not. The names seemed the same but the place was so changed. I loved the graphics. But ya know, coming back, I don't notice that my chars are so terribly lacking in graphics. Funny

Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 10:22am by Jarez

If it was me personally, that would just be too much to ignore, way too much a mess of favoritism in my opinion. Along with a guildleader who seemed way too irrational in that situation. Of course that's me and I don't know what your decision should be. I guess I would have to base it on just how many good friends and groupmates you'd be missing were you to leave.

Well, I work 5 days a week including Sunday mornings and Wed. nights. I work as the Director of Religious Education at my parish as a full time employee as salary not hourly so I put in more than 40 hrs a week.

It was the first Sat. I had ALL to myself in about 5 weeks. I babysat my grandkids one Saturday, visited my 85 year old parents one Saturday taking care of their needs (vacuuming, washing clothes, fixing meals to freeze for during the week) attended one of my son's birthday party one Saturday, I did yard work one Saturday and I ran errands, got a pedicure, my hair trimmed one Saturday. Oh my...my life is very full. I usually log in 2 or 3 hours on Sat. and Sun. more if I have the time in the evening. I enjoy the weekday evenings the most, it helps me unwind after having dinner with the hubby. He likes control of the remote and I just don't care for his programs or I read or crochett. I go in spurts. But I can see where you would get the impression of me sitting EVERY day or weekend playing. I had decided that Sat. was going to be a day of doing NOTHING! hehe I didn't answer the phone! I didn't even get out of my night clothes ALL DAY!!! It was heaven BUT no way I could do that all the time. Real Life is way to important.

Thanks for your concern and thanks Elinda for coming to my defense!

Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 11:16am by Jarez

Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 12:16pm by Jarez

Shadowstupid pwned once again :))

People who have lived a life being told to get a life by someone with no life. Ironic?

I think it was Sam, not Sally, that told her to F-off.

Whether someone is religious or not has no bearing on this that I can see.