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#1 Sep 26 2007 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
I wish to propose that SOE do away with the 6hr req to go to home city from log in screen... Why, well since the GL keeps being down for Major time chunks like on monday was down on Povar for almost 4 hrs.. and its down again today... I happen to be bound there.. died and now I cant get back in game till it comes up...or 6 hrs pass.. simply removing this time lockout would stop me from being frustated... or at least add home city as a 3rd option on res timer. locations..
#2 Sep 26 2007 at 4:54 AM Rating: Decent
The easy fix would be to just bind in PoK... When's the last time you saw PoK go down?
#3 Sep 26 2007 at 4:59 AM Rating: Decent
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When's the last time you saw PoK go down?

Monday, during the patch... :-P
#4 Sep 26 2007 at 5:33 AM Rating: Decent
Binding in the POK is not a fix to the problem of bad code... its a wpork around... but on Monday POK was down on Povar also for almost 4 hrs.. as well as 17 or more other zones... so your smart response isn't a fix either .. what I proposed is a legitimate fix to solve problems that occur to many people who are bound in the GL ... This also could help solve problems if you r bound in any zone that goes down.. a 3rd logical option that could benefit all players no matter where they may be bound.. also one that would not require a lot of code change...
#5 Sep 26 2007 at 5:35 AM Rating: Good
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Pok has crashed a few times over the past weeks. Maybe not on your server but on povar.
#6 Sep 26 2007 at 3:55 PM Rating: Good
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Guys. There's not much they can do if a zone goes down. What happens if the zone you're bound in *and* your home city both go down? Trying to "fix" this problem in the way you describe results in an endless series of "what if..." scenarios that can never really be fixed.

The long time on the "home" button at the login screen is designed to prevent people from using it as an easy way to port home. If you didn't have a minimum wait time, anyone could port out by simply camping and hitting the home button. While it may seem annoying, there are class advantages for being able to port out for those who have them, as well as an AA ability that people have to pay for to port home when they want, as well as a veteran award allowing people to port to the GL (heh. which wouldn't help in this case either). Allowing anyone to do this "free" would destroy the utility of those powers.
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#7 Sep 26 2007 at 7:38 PM Rating: Decent
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If anything trying to enter the game with a character in a crashed zone should give an option to "return" to a zone such as pok or a home city, but only in that scenario.
#8 Sep 27 2007 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
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ok so no timer is too powerful, but the option to enter in a stable zone when your bound zone is down should be looked into... especially vs being thrown to server select for the next unknown period of time. or 6hrs whichever comes first
#9 Sep 27 2007 at 2:31 AM Rating: Decent
OK, here is another example of why a 3rd option needs to be implemented... I died last night .. lucky for me I was bound on pok.. entered GL to summon rez and loot... in the middle of looting guess what GL goes down again... who knows how long... and can I go play another toon ...no because I had not found a rez yet... so if Im on my account and it takes more than 3:00 hrs I loose the ability to rez him... This GL instability SUX.... I cant log in ..zone is not available.. I cant return home hasnt been 6 hrs.. This is NOT right they need a 3rd option of some kind.
#10 Sep 27 2007 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
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If the problem is the guild lobby going down, why make alternate solutions.

The guild lobby just needs fixing.
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#11 Sep 27 2007 at 5:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Agreed

Deilan wrote:
I wish to propose that SOE do away with the 6hr req to go to home city from log in screen... Why, well since the GL keeps being down for Major time chunks like on monday was down on Povar for almost 4 hrs.. and its down again today... I happen to be bound there.. died and now I cant get back in game till it comes up...or 6 hrs pass.. simply removing this time lockout would stop me from being frustated... or at least add home city as a 3rd option on res timer. locations..
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#12 Sep 27 2007 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
The problem is all the endless crashing, they have to fix the crashing. They claim, they cannot at this time, figure out what is causing all the endless crashing.

I play on three different servers.

1.Firiona Vie- crashes every 22-24 hours Ghost town, you almost have to check SOE site board posts, to find out when you can play.
2.Bristlebane- I.E. Bristlefizzle from years of crashing. Goes down 1-2 times a week.
3. Drinal- Seems rare for a crash on this server, since july. Real rare, happens 1-2 a month. Used to crash about once a week.

Changing the how the GL works for HOME button will cause as much grief from those with Vet AA, or purchased AA, as anything else.

Workarounds: Once again it's up to players to figure this out.
1. Stop playing in zones were you need to "home" it
2. Buy gate potions
3. Group with a druid or wizard
4. Stop playing period until fixed
5. Start playing in zones that are easier
6. Use your Vet AA for instant free REZZ
7. Petition when you are screwed, due to crashing.
#13 Sep 27 2007 at 6:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I've not noticed any exceptional amount of zone or server crashing happening on Stromm.

After they changed the GL stop the buff timer, there were a couple crashes, but that seems to be fixed up now.

...as far as the OP: I too see no reason, at this point, for there to be a 6 hour timer on returning home. At one point it would have provided a 'nerf' if you will. But now, with the abundance of gating and porting options, both to zones and out of zones, the wait timer is a 'moot' point. So, while I see no reason for it to be there, I also see no reason to remove it (it would probably mess something else up if they were to try!!)
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#14 Sep 27 2007 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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...as far as the OP: I too see no reason, at this point, for there to be a 6 hour timer on returning home. At one point it would have provided a 'nerf' if you will. But now, with the abundance of gating and porting options, both to zones and out of zones, the wait timer is a 'moot' point. So, while I see no reason for it to be there, I also see no reason to remove it (it would probably mess something else up if they were to try!!)



All of those methods cost something though. If you have the "origin" AA, you spent experience to gain the ability to return home at the click of a button. Are we going to refund those AA points to everyone? What about gate potions? No one would *ever* buy a gate potion if they knew they could simply log out, click the "home" button, and be back in their home city a click away from PoK. Even the "die and summon corpse to GL" costs money (and experience).

And that's not mentioning the numerous quested items with various ports and gates on them that would now effectively become useless.

Isn't it enough that you can now log out in say PoH for the night and when you log in the next day, you can return home and avoid being stuck there until someone helps you leave? I think that's sufficient capability for most "normal" use.
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#15 Sep 28 2007 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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The problem is all the endless crashing, they have to fix the crashing. They claim, they cannot at this time, figure out what is causing all the endless crashing.

I play on three different servers.

1.Firiona Vie- crashes every 22-24 hours Ghost town, you almost have to check SOE site board posts, to find out when you can play.
2.Bristlebane- I.E. Bristlefizzle from years of crashing. Goes down 1-2 times a week.


I play 2 of your 3 servers. Firionia Vie I had to give up on as its just crazy laggy for me so I would crash all the time. Logging into another server at the same time and I would be fine.

Bristlebane seems to lose Baz alot, though it also often has twice the number of traders up than the other server I play on. BB definately has 2-3 times the players logged in most zones/level ranges (the 1-50 crowd did seem larger a few months ago though) than the server I played on my first few years in the game and now only occasionally visit.

edit: error in the quoting script

Edited, Sep 28th 2007 4:23pm by snailish
#16 Oct 03 2007 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
A better idea rather than taking away the 6 hours on the "return home" ability would be to implement something that gives you the option to return home if the zone is down. I.E. "that zone is currently down, would you like to return to your home city".. CR's for the win!
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