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#1 Aug 09 2007 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
Health of Target's Target. I understand what it does. I've searched, and seen people who've said it's useful, but I don't understand, TACTICALLY, how this aids a group/raid. The skills forum has no replies, so please, oh great masters of EQ, explain how this works in a group/raid dynamic.

And thank you for your time, reading and responding.
#2 Aug 09 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
The best way I know to describe what it helps in the group dynamic is that as a tank there is no question of who has the aggro. A mob may not be looking at you directly for you to have aggro. HoTT helps know when a mob has suddenly switched targets. Think of it is a device to sort of read the mind of the mob.

I consciously probably use it most when I am taunting a mezzed mob, I know the instant the mob ceases to be interested in the chanter or bard. My que to attack safely.

I understand your question, though I may not have answered it sufficiently. I know this, once I got used to it, I hate grouping without it.

Seamy
#3 Aug 09 2007 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
It helps tanks keep track of the pullers targets.

It helps tanks know immediately when they lose agro, and who now has agro that they may need to /shield.

It helps healers keep tabs on mob health. Keep tank targetted and check HoTT to gauge whether you will need to start a CHeal or can use a fast heal or if mob is getting close to Enrage stage.

HoTT and Delegate Main Assist are the two BEST Leader AA to help groups stay on the correct target.
#4 Aug 09 2007 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Also great for DPS classes on Enraging mobs, turn that attack off if enraging and switches from tank. Rogues can often evade before it turns around, and at most only take one round of hits. As others have stated though, Tanks and Healers get the most use out of it.

Also, easier to find in a mass of mobs which mob switched off the tank also, especially the ones going after the healer or the silk classes. Once you get used to it, you won't want to be without it.

Developers really need to allow 7 banked at lower levels to be able to buy it. Thankfully, now-a-days you can often find someone who's mostly afk to join a group and sit in the GH / GL, so you can still get it for your group.

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#5 Aug 09 2007 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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Rodth wrote:
helps know when a mob has suddenly switched targets. Think of it is a device to sort of read the mind of the mob.
mfbrownbear wrote:
It helps tanks know immediately when they lose agro, and who now has agro

Agreed! I rate HoTT pretty highly among abilities that have contributed the most to tanking. Before HoTT you might not have known someone had aggro who would need help until after they lost half their HP (or more) from a single round of hits from a mob. Now you have at least a fraction-of-a-second notice during which to position yourself and fire abilities to get aggro quickly, often before any serious damage is done. From the other side of this equation, this often gives you just enough notice to have your mouse or finger over self-heal/rune/etc button.

Edited, Aug 9th 2007 9:22pm by JoltinJoe
#6 Aug 09 2007 at 5:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Its hard to define just how useful the ability is until you use it and see how many different ways you can use it. As stated, the biggest benefits are to tanks and healers (and *gasp* paladins who sometimes find ourselves doing both).

The most obvious advantage is that you can see when your target has switched targets. This is quite often a trigger for you to do something different (in so many different ways that we could list them all day long), so it's pretty useful to know all by itself.

Being able to easily see both the targets health and his targets health allows a healer to see both the tank and the mobs health at the same time, regardless of who they are targeting at the moment. Obviously, if I *am* the tank, and that switches, I know that I need to do something to regain agro. If I'm not the tank, I may drop a stun on the mob to save some squishy who just got agroed, perhaps followed up with a heal for the poor sap. It's just nice in general since you can judge when to cast heal spells, and when you don't have to. Yes. You can see your group's health in the group box, but you "lose track" of the mob when you target them.

Druids/shamans as dual nuker/healers can more easily fill both roles. Again. The benefit of being able to see both the mobs health *and* the health of whomever that mob is beating on at the same time is pretty darn useful.


In pretty much all cases, it takes a bit of the mystery out of /assist targetting as well. While some roles don't care as much (dps class is just going to assist the MA and dps), anyone who needs to retarget regularly througout the fight will find this handy. The possible ways in which it's helpful are numerous...
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#7 Aug 10 2007 at 5:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm pretty much hooked on it. For kiting groups it's invaluable. But also, just to be able to see if the tank has lost agro at all, if agro is bouncing around, if I've gotten agro..even momentarily,,etc, etc...can all help judge when to nuke, when to heal, or when to just back off.





(Once upon a time, when others announced HoTT was being used, I didn't realize that I had to go into the leader window and actually turn on the mobs target window...Smiley: blush)
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#8 Aug 10 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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(Once upon a time, when others announced HoTT was being used, I didn't realize that I had to go into the leader window and actually turn on the mobs target window...)


I am not sure how everyone else sets up their windows but I have a UI that combines both health meters into one box. Makes having HoTT much easier since I try to minimize the amount of windows I have open so I can see more of the surroundings.
#9 Aug 10 2007 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
for healers it's nice, as mentioned, it permits one to see the mob's target

so by assisting the mob

results in tank with agro, potentially, the one requiring heals

switching quickly back and forth or when targeting through multiple mobs

permits the healer to see who was, is and potentially may, grab agro

thus assisting* the healer in a multitude of dynamics

but i digress

kC

Edited, Aug 10th 2007 7:18pm by BaronHonus
#10 Aug 10 2007 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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It's crazy helpful for pulling also. This is one of the last LAAs I bought and I love the sucker. With FD pulling this combined with the new in/out of combat icons lets you know exactly when it's safe to pop back up and continue the pull. Plus it lets you see when someone else may be pulling the mob you had your eyes on so you need to back off or whatever the situation warrants. I also find it amusing to see what mobs have corpses targetted. Bards don't drop from HoTT when they fade, just on a side note. Neither do people that just outrange a mob. You have to FD or zone to get out of that window
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