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#1 Jul 14 2007 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
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I have a simple request:

If all of us Alla users updated 1 "under 65 to obtain item" thread a week the database would become current very quickly. Even if your update is just "Yep, killed the goblin at the tower (loc ### ###) and got the yaddayadda".

If you are really up to the challenge, do one old quest a week and update all the steps (i.e., each item drop, quest stage and so on). Sure, the Neriak newb armor isn't "worth doing" to most players but it might be fun for someone to do.

It would also help clean up some threads that turned into "this item is best for..." and so on by bumping the most usable info to the top. This is especially true for zones that have been revamped.

Edit: I find it interesting how some use their rate-down powers on alla...

There are lots of lower players on my server, and a common comment in guild chat has been about up-to-date info. I like Alla and have always found it to be useful. Alla is useful because people chose to contribute their experiences. Finding the time to update things is the biggest issue for everyone --or just remembering to do the updating.

If my post title was misleading or offended someone's perception of the game I am sorry. I try to make a positive contribution to EQ and Alla. Most items and/or quests I have updated I will likely never do again, but that wasn't the point.



Edited, Jul 18th 2007 6:02pm by snailish
#2 Jul 14 2007 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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So Snailish...with 32 posts and one of them is above me, you have updated 31 quests I reckon?
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#3 Jul 15 2007 at 6:38 AM Rating: Default
well, no one is grouping under 65. and most any quest worth doing reward wise requires a group, and at times a mini raid.

so you can forget about seeing them done and reported here by any ONE person. there is no grouping below 65 outside of WoS and a dain mission.

secondly, those quest you CAN complete solo drop items people wouldnt bother to weigh themselves down with to cary to a vendor to sell. there is little to no xp to be gained either. and some require a rediculous faction grind to complete.

no one is interested in anything those quests have to offer. not the items, not the expeience, not the coin. the person that would do this for you would be someone who is so high of a level there is little chance of dying for this non-reward, and did it just to help you.

adn no one would be interested in using this information he gained because you can take a run through sol-b and get a few hundred plat in an hour and buy much better rewards in the bazaar for little to no risk.

if your doing it for the website, i applaud your effort but it is wasted. if your doing it because you personally want to know what quests are worth doing and which arnt, ill save you the trouble. none of them. raid drops are better. most of the time what you can buy in the bazaar is better. the quest that can be done without a group or mini raid just are not worth doing. thats why no one does them.

and the quests that are worth doing require groups that dont happen or mini raids that can get better drops from common mobs in raid zones.

questing is dead in EverQuest, unless you double/triple box or raid.

your asking for info no one will use.
#4 Jul 17 2007 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
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shadowrelm wrote:
there is no grouping below 65 outside of WoS and a dain mission.
Absolutely not true. Ever had a look at the hot zones?
#5 Jul 17 2007 at 6:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Um, what BBot said. I have 13 toons under 65 and I never have a problem finding a group, even on zek. You just need to find the right server there Shadow. Smiley: wink
#6 Jul 17 2007 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
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snailish wrote:
I have a simple request:

If all of us Alla users updated 1 "under 65 to obtain item" thread a week the database would become current very quickly. Even if your update is just "Yep, killed the goblin at the tower (loc ### ###) and got the yaddayadda".

If you are really up to the challenge, do one old quest a week and update all the steps (i.e., each item drop, quest stage and so on). Sure, the Neriak newb armor isn't "worth doing" to most players but it might be fun for someone to do.

It would also help clean up some threads that turned into "this item is best for..." and so on by bumping the most usable info to the top. This is especially true for zones that have been revamped.

Back to the topic at hand eh.

I'm terrible at submitting information, but agree that it would be nice to keep the info current. I've just never found a really convientent way to do it. (I'm making my contribution to EQ history compilation by taking and saving screenies of all the bridges in EQ..Smiley: blush)

Hey Kaj, how goes the EQ Wiki?

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#7 Jul 17 2007 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey Kaj, how goes the EQ Wiki?


rather poor...;) seriously, not that many contribs really in the past few months... which is a bummer :(
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#8 Jul 17 2007 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I would be up for completing some newb quests for info purposes. I grow tired of the high end game and I think this would at least peak my interest again. Besides the EQ wiki how exactly is this going to be organized on Alla?

Edited, Jul 17th 2007 4:34pm by Fisbane
#9 Jul 17 2007 at 5:41 PM Rating: Default
forgive me for assuming the worst, however, when the quest thing doesnt work out due to a huge lack of interest, ingame and out of game.......

how about a soloing guide broken down by levels, and arranged for the benifit of differant classes, or groups of classes. or even broken down into soloing style like "single pull slowing camp" or "kiteing/reverst kiting camp"

kind of break it down to the type of soloing style and then by level.

this is the info every returning and new player wants. dont shoot me for pointing out the obvious, there just isnt a whole lot of grouping going on. or more to the point, the vast majority of players ingame, reguardless of what they say here, mostly solo, and as such have probably ammased a treasure trove of valuable info a new gamer would fine indespensable.

can also break it down to double box combos and where to hunt by level.

stipulate that only camps doable by people without any raid gear should be listed, as they will be the majority of players interested in this info. get enough info out, and it might even convince some players to come back and try who have been thinking about it but just couldnt come up with a good reason to come back for a visit.

THIS is the info people want. i dont want to point out the obvious, but other than sheer boardom or for posterities sake, no one is interested in teh quests in EQ for the reasons i already pointed out. they do want to know where they can hunt at any given level without a group and without raid gear however, and that info is even more outdated than quest info on this site. not to mention it is not arranged in a friendly manor to boot.
#10 Jul 18 2007 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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That's also something people want to keep to themselves. Unless it's instanced content, I don't think anyone is gonna be all fired up to explain exactly how people can occupy their camps/spawns. I know I'm not..and I've written guides for necros in the past(instanced content, some "named/bosses" of old content etc). Creating competition/contension over your own camps is just lame.
#11 Jul 18 2007 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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alwayslost wrote:
So Snailish...with 32 posts and one of them is above me, you have updated 31 quests I reckon?



23 of them were updates to quests.
7 of them were questions --most of which alla users helped me with.
1 was the thought posted above.

edit... and the 32nd shrugs.

Edited, Jul 18th 2007 6:03pm by snailish
#12 Jul 18 2007 at 5:43 PM Rating: Default
That's also something people want to keep to themselves. Unless it's instanced content, I don't think anyone is gonna be all fired up to explain exactly how people can occupy their camps/spawns. I know I'm not..and I've written guides for necros in the past(instanced content, some "named/bosses" of old content etc). Creating competition/contension over your own camps is just lame.
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dude, i dont know if you have looked around lately, but incase you missed it, there isnt a whole lot of people left in the game.

justtossing out a level, lets say you are 70. how many level 65 plus necros you think are in the game at anyone time. 5? 10? and how many of them want to go to some corner to solo grind? mabe half?

who knows, mabe if you log on to that sweet spot next time, you can get a duo or three person group. your agrument might have held water 5 years ago when you could actually find more than 15 peolle in any one zone outside of POK. but now, i SERIOUSLY doubt any info you post would cause a stampeed of soloing necros all headed for your sweet spot.

but keep it to yourself. to be honest, necros are not that great at soloing anymore. certainly no better than a druid unless you can find an undead camp somewhere that 1. slow will stick, and 2. your pet can still tank it even at 1/3rd speed quading for 300 to 500 a round of melee.

im talking about info for low and mid levels mainly. that is the info that will draw the type of crowd that might be able to put some life back into the game. after level 60, sweet spot or no sweet spot, without raiding gear, your gona be sucking wind like the old days where you killed a mob and sat and recovered for twice as long as it took you to kill it. if you live. after 60 you raid or you grind in some corner grinding out the next 15 levels a painfully little bit at a time...just to get to the top and STILL you wont have any gear worth a crap.

but quests? OMG, there were only a few dozen quests worth doing ever in the entire game. adn after they nerfed the xp for repeatable quests, and nerfed the faction for them too to make th egrind just that much longer.........no one is interested. the rewards are crap. the xp is crap. the time for some of them is rediculous, and some of the camps are just boaring as hell(ancient cyclops anyone?)

the only ones worth doing require groups all spending their time for one person to get a weak reward, or a mini raid where the common drops in raids are far superrior. people dont quest for gear. rarely did after kunark was released. certainly dont now. they get their gear in the bazaar. not off mobs. the throwaways the raiders dump in the bazaar are far far superrior than anything anyone can get in a quest by themselves.

give us a hunting guid. not a guid to useless things no one will ever use.

just a suggestion.

Edited, Jul 18th 2007 9:45pm by shadowrelm
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