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#1 May 22 2007 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
I was talked into this by the guy at EBGames. I said I was tired of WoW. So I have a few questions before I beging the gigantic install of the Anniversary Edition.

1. Are there still plenty of players?

2. What class would you recommend I start with? I usally play Paladins or Clerics, but I don't even know if they exist in EQ.

3. I have heard this is much harder to play than WoW. Is that true?

Please take it easy on me.... I'm a 44 year old NOOB. Thanks!


EDIT... I hate playing classes with pets.

Edited, May 22nd 2007 8:16pm by PapaDeuce
#2 May 22 2007 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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PapaDeuce wrote:
I was talked into this by the guy at EBGames. I said I was tired of WoW. So I have a few questions before I beging the gigantic install of the Anniversary Edition.

1. Are there still plenty of players?

2. What class would you recommend I start with? I usally play Paladins or Clerics, but I don't even know if they exist in EQ.

3. I have heard this is much harder to play than WoW. Is that true?

Please take it easy on me.... I'm a 44 year old NOOB. Thanks!



1. There are the die hard fans, an average of 50 people in PoK on Tunare.

2. I recommend you read up on each class, here is a good site with a good break down for each class.

3. WoW is the easiest game I have ever played. EQ took me 1-40 in about 50 hours of play time, and I grinded so I'm not even comparable to someone of my level.
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#3 May 22 2007 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Warchief Kupoback wrote:
[quote=PapaDeuce]I was talked into this by the guy at EBGames. I said I was tired of WoW. So I have a few questions before I beging the gigantic install of the Anniversary Edition.

1. Are there still plenty of players?

2. What class would you recommend I start with? I usally play Paladins or Clerics, but I don't even know if they exist in EQ.

3. I have heard this is much harder to play than WoW. Is that true?

Please take it easy on me.... I'm a 44 year old NOOB. Thanks!
1. Yes, there are plenty of players. There are lots of hard core end-gamers, there are lots of moderate but true EQ addicts that try and enjoy the game for it's content and not just it's rewards, and there are new players and low-level characters. Honestly though there are not many new players. I hope the Anniversay Edition brings some in.

I'd recommend Stromm or Povar for the most populous US servers. But that's only a guess.

2. There are both Pallies and Clerics, take your pick. Clerics are probably the one class that is whacked in regards to class balance. Virtually no other class can pull off the healing that clerics can. They have the ultimate hp buff that many players won't forego for just about anything. Paladins are tanks with some utility, but still tanks. Clerics and Palys are the only true rezzing classes, though in the later game other classes can some rezzing utility.

3. Yes, it's harder, but now, probably not that much harder. Once EQ was hard in the sense that there were no maps, no portals, no logs for quests, and obscure quests at that. It took more perservence to accomplish stuff. Over the expansions, though, the games gotten friendlier. A mobs a mob though, and basically it's figuring out how to best kill it in either game...right.

This site has tons of info. Scan the categories at the left. Also there is a stickied post at the top of this page for new and returning players. Check it out.

Have fun.

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#4 May 22 2007 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks.... I'll begin the install in a few hours. Most likely I will start with a cleric. One thing I learned in WoW, and asume is true on EQ, is that people always want you ( a cleric ) for groups.

BTW, are their "instances"?

Really, I had never even considered EQ until he told me about it today.

Thanks!

Edited, May 22nd 2007 8:47pm by PapaDeuce
#5 May 22 2007 at 4:55 PM Rating: Decent
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PapaDeuce wrote:
Thanks.... I'll begin the install in a few hours. Most likely I will start with a cleric. One thing I learned in WoW, and asume is true on EQ, is that people always want you ( a cleric ) for groups.

BTW, are their "instances"?

Really, I had never even considered EQ until he told me about it today.

Thanks!

Edited, May 22nd 2007 8:47pm by PapaDeuce
Just to let you know, groups are somewhat hard to come by, and to find spells for your class you will be traveling all over. I recommend reading that site I mentioned, to see which class is you.
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#6 May 22 2007 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
I will check that site for sure..... thanks.
#7 May 22 2007 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend Povar for a starting server. Maelin or Bertox seemed to have a bigger lower level population. You shouldn't have too much trouble getting a group as a cleric, as most people will be tripping over themselves to invite you. If you want to solo though, you may be stuck with a pet class, such as a necromancer, beastlord, or mage, as they're the best soloers in the game. Druids are also pretty good soloers, and you can make a few plat by porting people and casting SoW (Spirit of Wolf, a sought-after spell that increases run speed).

I've played WoW (briefly, hated it) and found that EQ is quite a bit more difficult. While I could play WoW half-drunk and playing online poker, try to do that in EQ and you'll find yourself needing a rez fairly quickly. EQ makes you work for everything.

There are instances in EQ, most of them called Lost Dungeons of Norrath (LDoNs). They're fun and, if you have a good group, not terribly difficult.
#8 May 23 2007 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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You shouldn't have too much trouble getting a group as a cleric, as most people will be tripping over themselves to invite you.


Paladin I would say is more sought after now that everyone and there mother boxes a cleric, while tanks are much rarer.

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Druids are also pretty good soloers, and you can make a few plat by porting people and casting SoW (Spirit of Wolf, a sought-after spell that increases run speed).


No one needs ports anymore and making money from SoW- your joking, right?

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There are instances in EQ, most of them called Lost Dungeons of Norrath (LDoNs). They're fun and, if you have a good group, not terribly difficult.


Nitpick here but this is wrong. LDoNs are no where near the most common instance in EQ.

Apoligies for the cynical reply, don't get me wrong I love EQ and will continue playing it until the last server closes down- but as a brand new player starting the game you will run into some difficulty and this post just seems hopelessly optimistic.

Now, maybe I can turn this post around by posting some actual info ;)

Whatever class you choose, make sure you visit a good website dedicated to it. You can find a list of them in the stickied post at the top of EQ General about New & Returning players, there will be a lot of good info there.

Secondly, EverQuest is a very different game from WoW, so it might be something totally different from what you want. I don't think you will have very many problems with difficulty- your 44, and seem mature, if this is your kind of thing you should be fine. (Some people don't like difficult games).

Best of luck to you.
#9 May 23 2007 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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No one needs ports anymore and making money from SoW- your joking, right?


Actually, I've seen people donating for ports all the time. As for making money off of SoW, it's a bit rarer now, but I've had people send my beastlord tells asking me to SoW them. They'll usually give me some sort of monetary compensation, albeit small (and I never take it anyway; SoW doesn't take much to cast). Maybe it's just the servers I play on. /shrug
#10 May 23 2007 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
My druid gets hit with tells every night asking for ports to Direwind or the Steppes (thank you SOE for giving me xloc for those !). TSS is still going very strong on Maelin, and so wizzies and druids regularly get hit up for the ports to there.
I get more requests for FOE then SoW, and am almost never hit up for hp buffs or even DS any more.




Yes, EQ is harder then WoW, but by no means impossible. But if you like challenges, this is the game for you (quit WoW in less then a month since it was to easy).

If you really want to start with either a paladin or a cleric, start both. Rotate on nights while you get a feel for each of them, and then at some point pick a "main" and start experiencing Norrath.
#11 May 23 2007 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend Povar for a starting server. Maelin or Bertox seemed to have a bigger lower level population.
That's good to know. If the game actually recommends a new players server...use that, as that's where they'll be shuffling all the new players.

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You shouldn't have too much trouble getting a group as a cleric, as most people will be tripping over themselves to invite you. If you want to solo though, you may be stuck with a pet class, such as a necromancer, beastlord, or mage, as they're the best soloers in the game. Druids are also pretty good soloers, and you can make a few plat by porting people and casting SoW (Spirit of Wolf, a sought-after spell that increases run speed).
Druids are good soloers, but they're not going to make a living selling buffs and ports. Clerics, Shaman and Chanters are the only classes who are gonna make any cash buffing. Who wants to spend their time standing in pok selling buffs anyway. Smiley: wink

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There are instances in EQ, most of them called Lost Dungeons of Norrath (LDoNs). They're fun and, if you have a good group, not terribly difficult.
Lost Dungeons of Norrath (LDoN) was the first expansion to introduce instances. There are many, many other instances now that vary from group encounters to raid encounters to farming sites to monster missions. In fact LDoN's are pretty much forgotten once beyond level 50.
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#12 May 24 2007 at 3:51 AM Rating: Decent
Hmmm, you shoulda been in Neriak yesterday. A madhouse, just madhouse. There were so many people you couldn't get NEAR the NPCs to pick up or update quests. There were as many as 15 or so waiting for baddies to generate so they could mow them down again.

Mind you, I don't think very many of them were true noobs; I think there was a lot of Alt running.

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#13 May 24 2007 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks all... I still didn't get to install. I will though.... buyt the idea of installing 6 - 8 CDs is not all that exciting... ;)

I hate installing programs, especially on this particular machine.


I "think" I decided Pally. I would go necro, but really, I hate having to control pets.... I was terrible as a Hunter in WoW, absoluely terrible! :)

I was GREAT druid, though!

BTW, are there MODS for EQ? I only used CTMod in WoW. Oh, and Auctioneer.

Edited, May 24th 2007 3:42pm by PapaDeuce
#14 May 24 2007 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Ah, I don't think you will have much trouble controlling your pet as a necro in EQ, really it only needs minimal control in a group (at high end) and if and when you start raiding I think you will have got the hang of it.


What do you mean by "mods"- yes there are UI mods, but that's about it (that is legal).
#15 May 24 2007 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
Yes, I meant UI mods.....

Good to know about the pets. Thanks.
#16 May 24 2007 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
For a new player starting off, now is the time to do it. Ironically, when I started, pre-Ldon, it was easier than before, but still hard. Very little was explained. There was no tutorial, no heading above NPCs deignating them for Tasks or Quests, for example. Now, there is so much information in game that was not there in 2003.

The problem you will find is that, at low levels, groups are hard to come by. The reason for this is fairly simple. In the beginning, there were lots of people and few zones. Now, while there are fewer people, there are loads of zones. It makes the whole place seem emptier than it really is.

On the upside, regardless of the class or race you choose, soloing will be pretty easy for your first 50 levels, though if you are a social person, it won't take fifty levels to find a few partners to group with. While the areas you will solo will be the same areas people used to have to group in years ago, the weapons and other assorted gear have evolved beyond the mobs, at least at the lowest levels.

Another nice thing about this game is that there are still folks out there who like to help new players. They understand that, for this game to viable in 2010, it will be the new players of 2007 to make that possible.


#17 May 25 2007 at 5:54 AM Rating: Decent
Well, one thing is certain: The replies on these boards are far more civil than on the WoW boards, so that is a nice start!
#18 May 25 2007 at 6:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, one thing is certain: The replies on these boards are far more civil than on the WoW boards, so that is a nice start!
Well to be honest, World of Warcraft, is too easy of a game, that someone of no experience of a game, or MMO, can pick it up and easily get to the max level in a mere month or two. I played it, tried out all the classes, and no I didn't get to the max, because I'm a explorer. I love to travel, see this land, fight mobs here and there. Something different everyday. WoW didn't offer that. Well they did, but not too much. So the replies on that forum, are going to be a lot of younger lads that are playing the game, and most of the replies are most likely done during school times.

Now I'm not saying that they all are, or making any assumptions, as I have played the game, and do have a good understanding of the player age average. There have been fights in /1 that I've seen over stupid stuff, as in someone killing a wolf they had, or someone losing to a duel because their mom was talking to them, so I wouldn't expect too many civilized replies on the WoW forums.

I have used the WoW forums, back when I did play, and sometimes, most of my posts were completely ignored, seen, but ignored, because it didn't start a hot topic. It was mere technical questions.

Anyways, I hope you come join us, and if your looking for a server to start off on, you can come to Tunare, and I would help you the best I could. But I do play odd hours, so Stromm, or progression server would be better off.
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[14:24] nLoD: so it can't be all that hard can it?!
14:25] Pikko: obviously for magi it was really hard.. all the time

WoW: Retired
Uncleleo - 80 Undead Warlock Earthen Ring
Kishio - 80 Blood Elf Priest Earthen Ring
Elainebennis - 80 Blood Elf Death Knight Gul'dan

EQ2: Retired
Ishio - 80 Kerran Shadowknight - Crushbone
Ishiu - 26 Ogre Defiler - Crushbone
Ishias - 36 Conjy - Crushbone
Nerstinna - 16 Warden - Crushbone
>:3
#19 May 25 2007 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
if your going to start. id do it on the meanest server alive. "zek" the pvp aspect of it is fun at times, an annoying at others. but its never a dull moment checking whos in the same zone w/ you. an cleric is a awesome class. if you do decide to make a cleric over pally. i swear you should remake your cleric if you already made em. dark elf, inny worshipping clerics rock. theres only a tad of incredible SOE ***** ups. an they let 1 race, diety combo get a awesome toy. reagent symbol of innoruk.... dammit. now i gotta go search for it again... BRB...https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1254 k, that should take u to the toy. its a manaless " snare/dot which will slow the movement rate of the mob an damage it. so u can root rot stuff if u ever get low on mana. no one mentioned it, so figured i would. an STFU with your flames on pick whatever race u like. pick a DE inny cleric. an go support a shaman an buy a illusion potion, or do the crown of deciet quest.
#20 May 25 2007 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
ohh an i played a shaman to 70, loved it. my 1st character was a druid. leveled to 65 or 70 i forget. an they were both cake to level an fun to play. i have lil experience with tanks. an 0 with pallies. but had a hoot with my twink shadowknight mauling everything. but since your going to want to level fast, id suggest the cleric. cause u wont b LFG long, an will have people handing u $ for buffs. an youll make lotsa friends so long as your friendly.
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