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#1 Apr 23 2007 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a noob in the demo server saying that Druids are considered hybrid classes. Do you guys agree or disagree?


I say that they are pure.
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#2 Apr 23 2007 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
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This is not a dictionary definition, but I believe the term hybrid means the resulting mix of two or more things.

Hybrid car = gas and power cell

Hybrid EQ class = pure caster (priest or int caster) and melee class

I see no melee class in a druid. What a silly conclusion, it's a no-brainer really.
#3 Apr 23 2007 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Thought so.

He was saying that druids are a WAR + DRU = Druid

I was like what? Then he said WAR + PAL = Druid.
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#4 Apr 23 2007 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
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duh, first double post, yay!

Edited, Apr 23rd 2007 10:04pm by sprucecln
#5 Apr 23 2007 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe he was thinking of a Ranger. I know when I first started EQ I didn't know up from down either.
#6 Apr 23 2007 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Nope, I asked him, but he constantly said druid.
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#7 Apr 23 2007 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh well, what can ya do? /nod uh huh /nod
#8 Apr 23 2007 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Argue that they aren't a hybrid class lol.
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#9 Apr 23 2007 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Point here or to class sites if you are feeling like a tour guide. That's what I would do.
#10 Apr 23 2007 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Done.
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#11 Apr 23 2007 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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hehe important thing is you are palying one weekend and already found a newb. Must be some new blood coming in after all.
#12 Apr 23 2007 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, or the guy is just yanking Kupo's chain. The former seems more likely but, the situation is amusing either way.
#13 Apr 23 2007 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
Whatever, just keep posting so we can /drool over your sig.
#14 Apr 23 2007 at 8:10 PM Rating: Decent
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fhrugby the Sly wrote:
hehe important thing is you are palying one weekend and already found a newb. Must be some new blood coming in after all.


He really thought so, and had a 68zerker? LoL, knew a lot about zerkers so I believe that. In the end he came to agree that they aren't hybrids.

Oh and it's avvy, unless my characters and lion turn ya'll on.
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#15 Apr 23 2007 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Warchief Kupoback wrote:
Thought so.

He was saying that druids are a WAR + DRU = Druid

I was like what? Then he said WAR + PAL = Druid.


...I sure do hope he was kidding, wow, =p
#16 Apr 23 2007 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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WoW Druids are tank, healer, melee DPS and stand off caster.

That's a hybrid/

Maybe he is in the wrong game.

EQ Druid could be called a offense/defense hybrid.. I guess..
#17 Apr 24 2007 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Felicite wrote:
WoW Druids are tank, healer, melee DPS and stand off caster.

That's a hybrid/

Maybe he is in the wrong game.

EQ Druid could be called a offense/defense hybrid.. I guess..


But unlike a hybrid, they can't do either one better than the other. Like a ranger is great with a bow, but is okay with spells, a paladin and shadow knight are good tankers, and beastlords are only as powerful as their pet.

I just can't place druids as a hybrid because they don't do one skill better than the other. They can't really tank to well, but they can, they can't heal too well, but they can fill in, in a pinch, their melee is par, and DD is where they do better in, and same with their buffs. I just don't see them as that/
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#18 Apr 24 2007 at 7:00 AM Rating: Good
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I thought it was pretty clear from the EQ class descriptions (look in the creation screen).

Priests: Druid, Shaman, Cleric

Amongst these, the Cleric is the best healer, but the others are well equipped to do this. Druids are more useful for damage and Shaman are more useful for buffs/debuffs.

Melee: Warrior, Rogue, Berserker, Monk

Casters: Mage, Wizard, Enchanter, Necromancer

Classic Hybrids:
Shadow Knight (Warrior/Necro)
Paladin (Warrior/Cleric)
Ranger (Warrior/Druid)
Beastlord (Shaman/Monk/Mage?)
Bard (lots of stuff...Warr/Rogue/Enchanter maybe? with a little priest thrown in)

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Everquest druids are a priest class, not a hybrid. They were one of the "root" classes combined with warriors to create the original three hybrid classes (druid/ranger, cleric/paladin, necromancer/shadowknight). They've always been addressed by Verant/SOE as a priest class for balancing/envisioning purposes and have never been included as a hybrid when that archtype was being revamped.

Eventually the class lines became blurrier as 'hybrids' evolved into their own unique classes rather than simply 75/25 warrior/other mixes but that doesn't really affect what druids are.
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Classic Hybrids:
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Bard (lots of stuff...Warr/Rogue/Enchanter maybe? with a little priest thrown in)
Actually, bards got shafted years ago when SOE revamped the classes. They left bards out of the hybrid balancing by saying that bards are their own completely unique class type and would be addressed separately... and then dropped the rebalancing idea before they ever got around to bards.
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#21 Apr 24 2007 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
If a 68 zerker doesn't realize that a druid is a pure caster, then it's an Ebay character. 'Nuff said.
#22 Apr 24 2007 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Everquest druids are a priest class, not a hybrid. They were one of the "root" classes combined with warriors to create the original three hybrid classes (druid/ranger, cleric/paladin, necromancer/shadowknight). They've always been addressed by Verant/SOE as a priest class for balancing/envisioning purposes and have never been included as a hybrid when that archtype was being revamped.

Eventually the class lines became blurrier as 'hybrids' evolved into their own unique classes rather than simply 75/25 warrior/other mixes but that doesn't really affect what druids are.
I knew that the lore of druids didn't really focus on DPS, or tanking, it was their connection with nature that kept them apart from the other classes. No other class is a pure class that is in touch with nature, in EverQuest.

Nature, he knew what he was talking about with the zerker, just a noob on the other classes.
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#23 Apr 24 2007 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
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All the hybrid classes are a combination of two of the other classes.



Here are all the class and how they are generally classified (with the exception of Bard which is the subject of some controversy)

Pure melee:
Rogue
Monk
Warrior
Berserker

Hybrid:
Shadowknight
Ranger
Bard
Paladin
Beastlord

Intelligence Caster (arcane):
Wizard
Magician
Necromancer
Enchanter

Wisdom Caster (priests):
Cleric
Druid
Shaman

edit: bah, someone already posted before me :*(

Edited, Apr 24th 2007 1:29pm by YCHIR

Edited, Apr 26th 2007 1:48pm by YCHIR
#24 Apr 24 2007 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't know if I would call a Bard a Hybrid. I feel they are more like the jack of all trades.
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#25 Apr 24 2007 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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I knew that the lore of druids didn't really focus on DPS, or tanking, it was their connection with nature that kept them apart from the other classes. No other class is a pure class that is in touch with nature, in EverQuest.

Nature, he knew what he was talking about with the zerker, just a noob on the other classes.


I'm sorry... but you can't just learn -your- class in an MMO. If you don't know what the others do, you can't possibly make it that far. Maybe I'm just bitter 'cause I'm tired of stupid people in MMOs, but regardless...
#26 Apr 24 2007 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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NaturesParadox wrote:
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I knew that the lore of druids didn't really focus on DPS, or tanking, it was their connection with nature that kept them apart from the other classes. No other class is a pure class that is in touch with nature, in EverQuest.

Nature, he knew what he was talking about with the zerker, just a noob on the other classes.


I'm sorry... but you can't just learn -your- class in an MMO. If you don't know what the others do, you can't possibly make it that far. Maybe I'm just bitter 'cause I'm tired of stupid people in MMOs, but regardless...


He knew his class, and made bad assumptions about other classes. He came around eventually.
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Kishio - 80 Blood Elf Priest Earthen Ring
Elainebennis - 80 Blood Elf Death Knight Gul'dan

EQ2: Retired
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Ishias - 36 Conjy - Crushbone
Nerstinna - 16 Warden - Crushbone
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