Why does EQ succeed?Follow

Hmm, now I can tell from your last few words (well I know I'm being rather generous refering to them as words, but I understand that english is probably not your first language. So we should make exceptions), that you are trying to insult me in some way. But, as much as I try, I simply cannot interperet what ever it is that that great mass of jumbled letters is meant to convey.

No doubt it would be very entertaining if I could actually understand it.

Linderman, you really must learn to use the english language a little more effectively if you truly wish to mount an assault using the written word.

I'm sorry if I seem to be picking on you, but it does seem that you find the written word, well english at least, as large a challenge as EQ seems to be to you.

Well keep trying, as I'm sure many of your teachers at school will have counselled you, persevere and you will eventually master it.

I usually don't respond to flames - but this one I can't pass

No I'm not still living in 2001. I play the game about 3 hours every day, I ahve 7 accounts between my wife and myself, with more than 40 toons, most of which get played. I have 4 toons over 70 and did this without being guilded.

Also I am one of those boxers to refer to with total contempt. My wife and I have both been 2 boxing for about 4 years now, and have thus managed to level up two seperate groups of 4 to over 70. Along the way we have, as recently as last week - imagine that - run into quite a few great people.

In a pick up group - that meams there were 2 other characters in addition to my wife and myself - a few weeks ago one of the characters gave my wizzy a hard to get spell that she had looted a few days before and had not gotten around to putting on her trader yet. I had been trying to get that spell to drop for several weeks. She didn't say a thing - it just appeared in my trade window along with a comment that she would take nothing for it. 10K is the going price for that spell.

We only recentally joined a guild because several members of that guild had grouped with us over the last year and we found that we were very comfortable in thier company, and we wanted to see what this raid thing was all about. How about that, characters over 70, well enough geared to tank Terris (I found out the hard way) and never been on a raid.

I think you may either be on the wrong server - or maybe are a little bit too arrogant. If you are not happy with EQ, why do you continue to play the game?

EagleFlight/ Dyciere, and many others

Like those that drive with their blinkers on flashing to the world, "I'm an idiot, I'm an idiot, I'm an idiot" so too comments meant to get a rise; best ignored the idjuts of the world.

I've been playing eq since late 1999. The first toon I had was a Kelethin ranger. It took a long time to reach level 22 with that toon, so I parked him and started a bard.

Wooooot, yea! Bards. Back then DDD (an aoe dot) wasn't corrected like it is now. Back then if you sang DDD indoors, it agroed everything above and below you, true 3d dot, and seriously kilt all in zone. Outside is where DDD rang powerful. The first time I played DDD on my lute, inside the bard hall, my ears rang with the thuds (on my body) from the merchants and guildmasters. I know most bards tried that song only to die fast at the hands of once amiable kin.

Once I realized the power of DDD, I learned to kite the mob. As I grew in skill, so did my prowess in mob size. My best memory is Andante (on saryrn) in lake of ill omen, kiting. The mob of even cons consisted of goblins and sarnaks; the circle I ran was mostly flat and void of trees. As the zone began to lag (due to the collection of mobs I was killing) people arrived to watch in stunned amazement. That kite lasted 30 minutes, and at the end of it, there lay 30 mobs. That's correct, 30 mobs dead in 30 minutes, my claim to fame.

I chose to leave EQ in early 2003, as I was sick of the errors during patch time. Verant would have a patch day and remove all the bonuses of bard instruments, not once, but too many times. I heard of this new game DAoC, and went for it. That was a huge mistake, another reason to not even bother wasting time with a Oh So New! MMOG, but that's another story.

I returned to EQ in 2005. The only reason I returned was I missed my bard. There are none like the bard outside of EQ. The new UI was a total stunner, and I sent messages to Sony applauding such imagination. It was very nice to see friends still playing EQ, sad to see some had left, nicely surprising to see some return.

The community is powerful, and as yet, silent. Sony would do well to listen to the rythym, the beat of its powerful heart. Not many places exist where you can find so many different people exploring life. Sure, there are bad people, but there are bad people everywhere, thank goodness most of them are too busy to play EQ (only their kids).

EQ was the first true MMORPG to hit the market full force. It's longevity can only be attributed to Sony's attention in it's hayday. Sadly, EQ is fading away, mostly due to inattention of the details. The solution is to fix quite a number of items (I don't mean gear). Ignorance is not an excuse.

What do I mean? let me tell you: the gap between the tutorial and real world EQ is humongous and psychotic. No wonder people play the tutorial over and over and over. The market is skewed terribly and needs a real solution. It is not solved by raising prices of items we can find on vendors all over Norrath, this action is stupid (the person that suggested it works for Blizzard).

The community is keeping EQ afloat, but the server populations are dropping. To reverse this trend, is the solution another end game expansion?

Why EQ succeeds and why I keep logging in day after day:

ok, so I posted a comment on the topic why EQ is dying, but, my reply wasn't on how the game was dying, rather a rant on the dying breed of the kindness of other players and rise of rudeness and inconsiderate players. But in fact, I believe EQ succeeds as a game and does so very well.

Number 1 reason for me, it seems like it never ends. Sure, you get some good single player RPG games out there that take your attention away from EQ for a bit, but at the end of the day, it's a lonely existance.

There is no ending to EQ, there is no "yay, you've saved the world from obliteration, but now the game is over..." kind of thing. There's always another quest in EQ to take the previous one's place and more areas to explore and ppl to interact with that EQ never ends. An on-going saga of quests that may seem daunting to some (and a few broken ones - but those aside) but more worth coming back to than any other game out there.

And that's what keeps me logging in day after day.

I think, you're going a little over-board on how bad it is also. The main problem with people not helping people is the lack of them playing. Sure there are a few like that, but in general, most people are still helpful. I sometimes have a hard time getting people to help, but I understand, that they had already dedicated them to something else. But, in general if there are people on and awake, they'll help out if they're not already involved.

And I help many new players when I'm on servers that get many new ones. My primary server doesn't appear to get hardly any new players. Although, I wonder why people would start playing EQ at this point in time. I mean the game is 8yrs old and population is dwindling fairly rapidly. I've been playing since mid 2000, have went to other games, but came back.

Eventually someone will get a challenging, cooperation-required game, that improves on EQ. However, I don't know of any atm. Many of my friends have been playing either non-stop, off and on, or left for other games and came back since launch or very shortly thereafter in 1999. And your post would have been better served under Why it's failing, rather why it succeeds.

Just my thought on your post.

Yther Ore.


Edited, Apr 7th 2007 7:56pm by Yther

Everquest is somehow more memorable than any newer games.
I am not sure if this is caused by pace, difficulty or some other
factor. I can have great time recalling what I did in EQ the
day before, and planning what I will do next.

The games where killing is easy and levels fly by are somehow
fleeting and when I try to remember them, nothing comes to mind.