why EQ is goin downhillFollow

This touches on the same thing I complained about in my rant thread.

**WARNING: I WILL BE MENTIONING NAMES, MAYBE IT WILL GIVE THEM A CHANGE OF HEART**

Recently, I was travelling across Antonica for the sheer hell of it with my Pally. People in /general were talking about a fabled item(I forget which) that I could have used because it was better than the gear I had. I didn't catch the part of the conversation where they said what it dropped from, so I asked the simple question: "What does that drop from, I could use it".

Instantly I have this one rude ***** named Purrella(Maelin Starpyre server) who starts screaming at me about how I shouldn't be asking noob questions and how I should just go to Allakhazam.com and find out there.

This pissed me off, I asked a simple question(IN-game instead of searching for it on here because I play the game so that I can interact with others) and I got **** about it.

Happily, everyone else who was actually talking on /general stepped in on my side. I was happy to see that some people still like to play the game the way that it should be played.

But this isn't an isolated event, I know I can be annoying sometimes(especially with my occasional spamming of "38 Pally, LFG"), but I've asked simple, friendly questions before, and while I often get a good response or someone offering to help(especially when I was playing on The Combine), every other time, someone will start yelling about how it's not their job to answer question(which it isn't, it's just nice to at least give a polite answer) or how instead of wasting people's time by asking in-game, I should check everquest.allakhazam.com(which by the way, this proves to me that you're out there, reading this asSholes).

If I wanted to play a game where I have to go to the internet(remember when we had to figure things out for ourselves? No internet for fast game answers? I barely do.) I'd just play games on my emulator and stop paying to play an MMO.

The game has changed, it's becoming more and more common to have kills stolen, be trained for camping a semi-popular spot, be yelled at and be called a noob by elitist pricks who think they're awesome because they've been playing longer than you(I've been playing since 2004 btw).

If we want to bring people back, we need to show that we're a friendly gaming community, and you know what? We definitly aren't showing that. It's no wonder so many people(including me as of June or July) are running off to games like WoW.

The moral of the story: stop being a prick, and try to remember back when you started playing. Ann to dust off an old semi-religious cliche: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.


~Uluolias Driftwoud, Maelin Starpyre Server
~Koronus, The Combine Server

In the game you'll meet nasty people and you'll meet nice people, just like in life.

Enjoy your time with the nice people and put the nasty ones on /ignore or on your friends list (I like to kee[ track of them so I can avoid the zones they are in ).

Anyone else think it's odd that the comment abouve mine says grouping is a problem because too many people on? I understand what you mean but I though it was worded kinda funny.

EQ as a game isn't dieing.

I onced asked in general what MQ'able meant, and got the response 'if you dont know what MQ is you should stfu noob'. After i got this response i simply replied 'if i dont ask then i'll never know, so why dont you stfu'. After he sent me a tell saying that he wasnt talking to me and apologised, go figure

The thing to remember Jimiterry, is that when an idiot "speaks" in game or on a BB like this, they reveal themselves for who they really are to the entire world.

And they are mostly too stupid or self involved to realise that the majority of us are sitting back having a good old laugh at their simple mindedness, their rudeness and pitiable upbringing and thanking the gods that we do not have to live with such a person and can simply shut them out of our lives at any time we choose.

I don't think that the ratio of "nice" to "horrible" people has changed all that much, but I do think that as the game has matured, so has guild system and many of the "nice" people will be in guilds that go to some length now to keep the the "horrible" ones out.

So its likely that a largish number of the people wandering around zones making mischief or sitting in the bazaar /oocing inane nonsense, are the ones that "John West rejected".

Do you have the John West commercials in the US I wonder? :P

An unchanged ratio of "nice" to "horrible" within a population infers nothing about the size of the population.

A ratio of 10 "nice" to 3 "horrible" is the same as a ratio of 100 "nice" to 30 "horrible.

Its simply a ratio of 1 "nice" to every 0.333 recuring "horrible".

LMAO Knock lack of sentence construction and dont check your spelling.
( LOL dont check mine tho :-P,I make mistakes im human and i dont point fingers )
And I agree Jimiterry ,hope gets better.

Whether EQ is going downhill depends mostly upon the person asked. I suppose that if you asked a person who was with the game from beta, that he or she would say that the game has indeed gone downhill. If you asked a person who has just started playing the game, by contrast, they would likely say that the game is just fine. Both, in their own ways, would be right.

I started playing in July of 2003 just before LDoN came out. At the time, a new player was extremely dependent upon the knowledge base of others within the game. I watched ooc chat intently just trying to figure out what I was doing. In the first few days, I got slaughtered numerous times. Half the time, it was by guards or other "friendly" NPCs just because I forgot to hit the space bar before typing my /say line. Back then, auto attack was initiated by hitting the letter "A". I know I wasn't the only one who met such a fate, as there were loads of fresh corpses around most of the Guildmasters. Changing it to "Q" was possibly the best change EQ has ever made in the game, IMHO.

Having started when I did, I can only imagine the difficulty faced by those intrepid souls in the early days of EQ, when the knowledge base was slim among players and there were no tutorials and few, if any, in game quick tips on which to rely. Further, the equipment was rather weak. A fine steel weapon was major league uber back in the day. At the beginning, an "uber toon" was someone who had made level 20. People were likely nicer back then, because they HAD to be. If you were a jerk in those days, and even in the days when I started, you might have a hard time finding a decent group. Oh, you might find another group of train-raining, ninja-looting, kill stealing freaks, but you would likely not survive the day when your group wiped.

While I have fond memories of EQ in the summer of 2003, I still remember the camped mammies, the high level of kill stealing and training and the fact that the jerks in the game tended to be more dangerous to my toon than any moron with a knack for flaming people in general chat. Remember, back then, if some idiot trained you (often to steal your camp for his group or for farming purposes), you had a tough time merely looting your own corpse. Now, we have corpse summoners at the Guild Lobby. Besides, trains are not all that common nowadays. At least a lot less common than when Crushbone was akin to Penn Station, anyway.

I know I am rambling, but I know that EQ has in many ways given into the market and WoWed itself a bit. I also know that there will come a day when EQ is one of the freebies thrown in when a person buys another game. In my mind, that is probably as it should be. I also know, however, that this is the first such game where the developers tried to get it right and actually came close enough so that the game has lasted eight years. So, instead of whining about the fact that it is going downhill, I tend to be amazed that it has lasted eight years. And yes, eight years from now, even if some other game or hobby has lured me away, I will want come back from time to time to revisit my old stomping grounds. I hope they are still here when I do.

That is why I quit too. The game is full of greedy people who multi box, hey why share exp and loot if you can have it all yourself.
Was about to give EQ another chance, so I started a new toon. In EACH zone I was there was alteast 5 more poeple BUT NOONE wanted to group. They all had their level 75 buff bot. Best was in Unrest, 10 seconds after I zoned into the zone got 2 tells that this PLACE IS CAMPED, and i should go somewhere else.
Its true EQ ONCE HAD a superior Community, back in 1999 of 100 players there was like 5 maybe 100 idiots. TODAY from 100 players 70 are idiots.

Bye EQ was fun but its better to go if love turns into hate.

OMG!!!!!



...PEOPLE IN UNREST??!

Are you sure you weren't hallucinating?

I'm sure they were just being ****** There are at least 5 different places to camp in Unrest and I sincerely doubt that they were all camped.

Multi-boxers aren't the reason you suck at eq toronto, that's all on you. If you claim to leave more times without actually leaving I think the alla servers might explode. I'd continue on my rant, but something better to do has came up. Going to eat, enjoy your leaving of eq.

1 man and his bot can own unrest btw.( if you have clue HOW PL works Driftwood )
And yes Srakeats you right. I suck im a loser who cant afford 5 account to play a MMORPG.( Btw you are on of the 70 i guess )

Edited, Mar 30th 2007 3:13am by toronto

Edited, Mar 30th 2007 3:16am by toronto

I can say since I started WOW that Blizzard is a MUCH better company. The game actually WORKS and it runs ALOT better. Despite the fact it does use Toon graphics it still is more detailed and looks better then most eq1 zones. Just the Customer Service alone is 100% better then SOE.

EQ1 has nothing left but lvl 75 hardcore raiders. None of these people hardly want to group with you unless you are their best friend and in their Raid. Heck with eq1 (actually heck with SOE in general) my accounts are gone and I doubt I will ever pay to play this game again. No more sitting in POK begging for a group and dealing with stuck up snobs.

There are TONS of rude people. We have a couple on the Stromm server. But, for the most part, I've met a whole crap load of nice people. Although, there is one person who is widely hated by everyone. :-)