Poll: PoP Zone Entry RequirementsFollow

I think they should leave it alone. The name of the game is Everquest not Everxpcrunch. Too many people just jump on and go pl themselves or others and don't do the quests. The flag requirement leaves something for those who like doing the quests. There are enough zones to go to for those that just don't care.

I think you've got to respect those who went through the agony of progression, especially recently. But I know there are a lot of people with a partial mish-mash of flags out there who would love to see and benefit from that content. Finding a way to unlock it without having to march through that progression would be smart.

A while back didn't they change the access to PoT-- so that you could get some essence to Time stone that dropped in the area just before you zoned in to kill the gods? I thought that was put in because Guilds were whining about the 72-man raid requirment for Planar Progression/

Did they take that essence of Time stone out of the game?

I think they should modify the mobs so that the zones would be doable by less than a 72-man raid. The size requirement has to be a PITA now that the game is losing so many customers.

I went through all of the original flagging, no alternate quests, and I think anyone wanting into those zones should have to go through the same flagging. Some of them already have level based access: storms, valor, torment and CoD (I think just those 4) at 55, and HoH/BoT at 62. Go ahead and leave those open like that but don't relax requirements especially on the elemental planes and potime. My main got flagged the original way and it would be a slap in the face to have all that work suddenly be for nothing, I even have a box that is NOT flagged for any of PoP higher zones (just gets into the level based stuff) and while I'd love to get it into pofire I wouldn't want it just handed to me. I was even disappointed although understanding when they made some alternate backflag options for guilds, and I don't expect to have to do any less than at least that alternate backflag to get in. Sorry if any of you feel otherwise but play the f**king game.

And to all you f**kheads that voted to open all of em up: F**K YOU! go play some other game and get out of mine if you are that lazy, ITS A GAME, PLAY IT. Getting a freebie to the end of an expansion like that is NOT playing, it is CHEATING.

Edited, Feb 25th 2007 2:01pm by Neadayan

I think PoP progression is a great accomplishment. I dont think it should be messed with either. I mean PoP is where you learn how to raid, if you cant do PoP you cant do GoD,OoW,DoD or the new stuff. And for those of you who think its just a "waste of time" you dont need to play EQ, its not about getting the easy way out, its about hard work.

I voted to leave them alone. I play on the Al'Kabor server where PoP is basically the end of the game. (Al Kabor does not have Ykesha or anything that was released subsequently. We're OLD SCHOOL.) My guild is in the process of flagging for entry to ToSR, and pushing to make it to the Elemental Planes. It's such a huge challenge on a small server like ours to accomplish the flagging necessary to progress to our endgame that I just don't think it would be right to just drop the flagging requirements.

Of course, this is my perspective coming from that server. In PCland where there are new expansions and content to explore (not to mention ridiculous gear) this may not be the wisest way to go. Raiding guilds most likely never even touch these zones on the PC side with all the new content and targets available. Relaxing the requirements would make it very nice for casual players who can't or don't want to invest the time it would take to get geared and flagged for progression through PoP. I guess it will come down to a business decision for SOE.

Just my 2cp

Re my post above.

I did an open Saryrn raid tonight along with the Keeper of Sorrow on Maelin. Advertised at 7:30 pm EST in the lobby, pok, tranquility. I got one tell. So my guild's alts and some of Pactum and an alt guild did it.

I answered no for all zones because:
- it is nowadays easy to do the pop progression for any pick up raid, if they fail it is a lack of organisation.
- there are alternate access quests for every zones and these quests which were 1 groupables when put in the game are surely soloable now. Search a bit they are all listed here.

so any guild / raiding force who wants to reach time should have no problems to do it in 1 or 2 weeks of efforts whatever the method they use (raid or alt access)

I know a few guilds that have in the last 2 years, including my own.

I voted to open it up. i have noticed NO open raids going on on my server Tribunal. I think this due to the fact that there have been SO many expansions since then that offer much nicer gear in a group context. However to get your epic you have to be flagged for those zones! I had some problems finding people who were flagged to go there, to get MY epic done . With new players coming in and the gear availble, they really have NO reason to GET flagged for those zones. No one GOES there anymore.
SO paticuarly for teh casual player,if they want to get their epic, they will not have a chance as more expansions come out.
An alternative would be to have other things to do that dont involve zones that that require so much to do to get access for, to be able to complete the epic requirements

It needs to stay the same, because getting to the upper level of the game is not about gearing up alone, it's more about learning to beat different situations, and it's the tactics that make you good enough to advance, not the gear. It would be kinda like some players these days... they PL their way up to 75 in 6 months, but they don't really learn how to play their class properly. I've seen level 75s that don't even know that a Bard cannot resurrect them!

I think polls like this are meant for people to give their opinions. Why is that rude?

Did you read any of the other posts in this thread? In fact, there are many people doing these raids. We had 50+ in PoTactics yesterday for RZ.



Atm, you'll find that the average player is the one doing those 'non-existant' PoP raids. The high and mighties have long since passed by.