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#1 Feb 11 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
i was recently thinking about coming back, but would like to know something first. how does the beastlord class of today compare with the class before the release of GoD (when i left the game)? I had a level 53 beastlord on the bertoxulous server, and am not sure whether its worth it to pick him back up or to play with my somewhat lower level rogue, which i was having a lot of fun playing before i quit. thanks
#2 Feb 11 2007 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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The beastlord is more fun for me to play, but I solo/2box alot. Beastlord solos well, and makes a good duo partner for a druid. The rogue is a tougher class to solo, and positioning issues make it a little tougher to box than other melee classes. In the end, play the class you have more fun with, or just play both and alternate depending on your mood. Heck, between my 2 accounts I have 8 toons that I'm actively playing, which one or two I log in depends on my mood that day.
#3REDACTED, Posted: Feb 11 2007 at 4:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bst are as useless as ever we have like 3 left in our guild and only about oh lets see 1 of those is semiactive LOL. their buffs suck, their dps sucks, they blow for grouping nobody wants them. im juts trying to make sure you dont waste your time or money coming back LOL especially ifg your bst is 53 you say ? good luck finding anyone on any server to group with you the last 22 levels HAHA . I got a bunch of 75's with over 1000 AA, 2.0's, anguish+ gear and most of them seem useless today as well thats just the state of the game. short answer dont waste your time youll thank me LATER!
#4 Feb 11 2007 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't listen to justinjolt, a bst can do fine for himself solo and is a great asset to a group. They have decent slows, solid dps and their buffs are not that bad. I don't see why you couldn't solo while having your lfg tag up. If you get all the expansions you don't have, that will just open up more content for you to find groups in and solo in. Plus if your hard up you can do MM's until you level up some more.

As for your rogue, you will need a group for him, it is just so hard for them to solo, or that's been my experience at least. Depending on what level he is you could probly find a group for him too. I see lower levels trying to put LDoN's together on my server a few times a week. You should consider coming back and at least see how things go for a month. I mean you'll be out a little money but then you'll know for yourself instead of listening to other people.

#5 Feb 12 2007 at 3:35 AM Rating: Good
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I got a 56 Beastlord, and I love the game.

There are lots of quests/tasks if you are soloing, or you can go for straight exp and don't have to depend on others. Tradeskills give a whole lot of opportunities if you like doing them.

On the other hand, I never have problems finding people to group, especially in the hot zones appropriate to my level or in the new TSS zones (Goru`Kar Mesa, Blackfeather Roost). It'll be even easier if you join a guild on your server, many people who have high-level characters enjoy playing alts.

Keep the rogue, you'll want to play him from time to time.

And as for you, justinjolt: I don't know what's your problem, but I can't find a single argument against Beastlords in your post, only ill-founded nonsense. Rate down. Smiley: glare
#6REDACTED, Posted: Feb 12 2007 at 4:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) listen to this random "uber 56" BST rather than me LOL!!! even though ive been to the very end game with multiple toons and i am smart enough to know that bst's are almost as useless as mages and druids ( i feel soo soo sorry for them HAH)) anyway, the last time i can remember a group i was in even accepting a bst into a group was after we bugged every sham and enc for like an hour to no avail LOL! as for raids bsts are so utterly useless its not even funny and their stupid pets push **** all over the place what a horribly conceived class. if your gonna waste your time comiong back to EQ which by the way i dont advise, you better re-roll !
#7 Feb 12 2007 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
justinjolt wrote:
listen to this random "uber 56" BST rather than me LOL!!! even though ive been to the very end game with multiple toons and i am smart enough to know that bst's are almost as useless as mages and druids ( i feel soo soo sorry for them HAH)) anyway, the last time i can remember a group i was in even accepting a bst into a group was after we bugged every sham and enc for like an hour to no avail LOL! as for raids bsts are so utterly useless its not even funny and their stupid pets push sh*t all over the place what a horribly conceived class. if your gonna waste your time comiong back to EQ which by the way i dont advise, you better re-roll !
jj


I think you must have been playing a different "end game" to me with your "multiple toons", seeing that beastlords, mages and druids are among our most important raid team members.
#8 Feb 12 2007 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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With the advent of justinjolt's 5 posts on these boards, I need a question answered. Is there a certain rating one must be below before their stupidity is no longer viewable through default settings?
#9 Feb 12 2007 at 7:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Phistikuffs wrote:
Is there a certain rating one must be below before their stupidity is no longer viewable through default settings?
Yup. It's aptly named "Sub-Default".
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#10 Feb 13 2007 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I played a bst up to lvl 70 before my current hiatus from the game and I have a friend who has a 75 bst...I used to and he still gets tells asking to group...WHY? Because if you truly KNOW how to play a bst, your reputation will get around and you WILL get invites (which is true with any class for that matter). A good bst is a definite plus for a group...

Like someone said earlier...go solo (because you can :) with your lfg tag up.
#11 Feb 13 2007 at 5:20 AM Rating: Decent
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justinjolt wrote:
listen to this random "uber 56" BST rather than me LOL!!! even though ive been to the very end game with multiple toons and i am smart enough to know that bst's are almost as useless as mages and druids ( i feel soo soo sorry for them HAH)) anyway, the last time i can remember a group i was in even accepting a bst into a group was after we bugged every sham and enc for like an hour to no avail LOL! as for raids bsts are so utterly useless its not even funny and their stupid pets push sh*t all over the place what a horribly conceived class. if your gonna waste your time comiong back to EQ which by the way i dont advise, you better re-roll !
jj


Please.....stop laughing at the end of every sentence LOL (if that's what you want to call your randomly thrown together collection of psuedo-words HAHA). You are making my eyes bleed. LOL
#12 Feb 13 2007 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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My main is a 75 beasty Ogre... I am by NO means UBER but I am no noob either. I do rank in the top 100 beastlords.

Would I make my beastlord over again if I could go back? Very though provoking question indeed.

I would love to have comprable gear that my beastlord has on an SK or a Necro and give them a whirl (same AA count also please).

But no, I think I would stick with my beasty. I can solo mobs that melee me for 2k a punch, I can handle 3 at a time pounding me for 500-700 each, I can explore ALOT of content solo, and I never have a problem picking up a top end zone group.

Do I contribute ALOT to raids... from my view point I dont think I contribute that much, from others they say I am a welcome addition. If they are just being nice or not I do not know.

So to answer your question.... You would enjoy the current state of the beastlord very much.

BUT, seeing as how you left before the GoD explansion all off your gear is obsolete and you have to replace it. With that said your only level 53.. thats a good weekends work to get a new toon back up into the 50's so you wont be that far behind.

So, pick which toon you would like the best, your going to have to replace all the gear on it anyways and the levels are so low you quickly get them back.

and before I forget.. how does the beastlord compare now to before GoD? Remember when you were in the teens and eating mobs alive while everyone else was like WTF? But then you got left in the dust and your powers petered out? Well you gain momentum back up around level 70... be warned, Necro's and SK's are the Toons right now, but expect a re-alignment soon (also clerics are getting pretty dang tough)

Peace
#13 Feb 13 2007 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
I have a 69 bst that ive been playing for almost a year.. some baz gear, some raid but not much. I have no problem getting groups. The bst has decent dps and plenty of utility for a hybrid. You're not gonna out damage any of the pure melee classes but the bst's survivability is a nice trade off. The only thing that sucks about the bst is the pet's survivability in raid content. Once your pets gone half of your dps is as well. (too bad there isn't an aa where the bst and his pet could become one for 10 minutes for this very reason) Anyway imo it's a fun class to play and i wouldn't trade him for anything
#14REDACTED, Posted: Feb 13 2007 at 3:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) rofl SURE you can buddy keep smoking that crack silly. oh and I see dead people !. not only are bst's the running joke of all of EQ, my server included, but they are almost always the butt end of all jokes in /gu right there along with suck-druids. most of the bst's i talk to always ask me why they bothered to make one of the most useless classes and I cant answer their question. right from our guild raid requirements for new content. "Beastlords necessary (0)" we are pushing the tip top content as well as i said we have like 1 bst actually active and all he does is annoy us with his stupid pet and other than that he is used as a crack *****.. lmao you all sound so new because the crap you say tells me so
#15 Feb 13 2007 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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JJ, it sounds to me your lack of attention you could garner from groups while playing your beastlord may have had much more to do with personality than the toon's class...
#16 Feb 13 2007 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
thanks boys (jj excluded)...might come back and give it a try
#17 Feb 13 2007 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
justinjolt wrote:
...but they are almost always the butt end of all jokes in /gu right there along with suck-druids. most of the bst's i talk to always ask me why they bothered to make one of the most useless classes and I cant answer their question. right from our guild raid requirements for new content. "Beastlords necessary (0)" we are pushing the tip top content as well as i said we have like 1 bst actually active and all he does is annoy us with his stupid pet and other than that he is used as a crack *****.. lmao you all sound so new because the crap you say tells me so


I'd love to know the name and server of this uber guild hitting "tip top content" with "suck-druids" and annoying beastlords?
#18 Feb 13 2007 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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justinjolt wrote:
lmao you all sound so new because the crap you say tells me so


say...you didn't happen to start out playing EQ with a ebay'd dark elf wizzie looking for a SoW to get to burned woods did you?

Edited, Feb 14th 2007 2:14am by joev
#19 Feb 14 2007 at 1:22 AM Rating: Decent
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justinjolt wrote:
right from our guild raid requirements for new content. "Beastlords necessary (0)" we are pushing the tip top content as well as i said we have like 1 bst actually active and all he does is annoy us with his stupid pet and other than that he is used as a crack *****..


In another thread:
justinjolt wrote:
My server is almost completely dead this sucks! VG kicked my guilds *** about half of guild quit in the past 2 weeks.


Not a guild I'd like to be a member of. Nothing more to say.
#20 Feb 14 2007 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Yay me, I rated posts, before I did I could see some of JJ's posts, now I got the honor of pushing him to sub default. I love my druid, wife's mage and beastlord.
Blast, he still has one on the board. When 2 out of 3 of your posts are nuked off the forum it's a good idea to move on to another website. Why does ebay give them this address when they buy an account?

Edited, Feb 14th 2007 10:43am by Srakeats
#21 Feb 14 2007 at 3:51 AM Rating: Decent
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justinjolt wrote:
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I can solo mobs that melee me for 2k a punch, I can handle 3 at a time pounding me for 500-700 each, I can explore ALOT of content solo, and I never have a problem picking up a top end zone group


rofl SURE you can buddy keep smoking that crack silly. oh and I see dead people !. not only are bst's the running joke of all of EQ, my server included, but they are almost always the butt end of all jokes in /gu right there along with suck-druids. most of the bst's i talk to always ask me why they bothered to make one of the most useless classes and I cant answer their question. right from our guild raid requirements for new content. "Beastlords necessary (0)" we are pushing the tip top content as well as i said we have like 1 bst actually active and all he does is annoy us with his stupid pet and other than that he is used as a crack *****.. lmao you all sound so new because the crap you say tells me so


Anytime anyone wishs an example just to verify what I say.. the server is Cazic and I can be found in Sunderock or Direwinds most of the time if I am soloing, just send me a tell and you are more then welcome to come and watch...

Btw.. don't you love it when the servers are down, all of these "Never post" kiddies come out and start the slander and bs that they know nothing about or they just plain out make some stuff up to help them feel good? Reminds me of JR high again...

Hey JJ, tell that honey of yours on the other side of the planet from you that I would not know that I said happy Vali day... I'm sure that part of your brain where she resides will enjoy it.

Peace out.
#22 Feb 14 2007 at 8:30 AM Rating: Default
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If you are looking at Beastlords from a Raiding point of view:

1. Give me a paragon button for the guild window and I will never need another beastlord in the guild.
2. Beastlords dps is horrible
3. Beastlords slow is pathetic

Call me shallow.. but I could do without a single beastlord in a raid environment.
#23 Feb 15 2007 at 2:04 AM Rating: Decent
I play a beastlord as my main and I'd have to agree. We excell in group content, and can hold our own while soloing, but if you plan to raid, I'd not even bother. We lack any utility that could be considered useful and the only other thing we can do is dps, but most other classes can do that much better then we do. A ranger, for example, is better in every single way. They have some use on a raid, better tanking ability, better dps and even better cures as well. We dont have a single thing on them during a raid. If you're looking to just mess around and have some fun, the bst is a good choice. But if you're planning on sticking to the game, I'd have to say go with rogue.
#24 Feb 16 2007 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
Beastlords are good for groups and soloing (to a point). I dont see any real raid utility but then the game is not all about raiding either. You can level a beast and have fun in game without ever setting foot into a high end raid and that's a good thing if you play a beastlord because there is no need for them on high end raids these days.
#25 Feb 16 2007 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
Hahaha, For six years people have been saying the same old boring thing,,,, Yes the only classes you NEED on a raid are clerics warriors rogues and enchanters, well maybe a monk or two as well.

Every one else is just filler. Smiley: rolleyes

So if you are one of those fabled guilds that have 15 clerics, 5 enchanters, 10 warriors, 15 rogues, 8 monks and the one wizzard for TLs turn up for every raid, then good on you.

The rest of us will make do, very thankfully, for the utility classes that alow us to raid even when the holy trinity plus 2 dont turn up in the required numbers.

By the way, good luck to the holy trinity plus 2 with the ranged battles Smiley: wink
#26 Feb 16 2007 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
The sweet spot for soloing for a beastlord is between 60 and 65. Unless you've worked aa's, it gets way tougher to solo after that. Most of the mobs start mitigating slow, which isn't that great to begin with and we dont' tank as well as we once did. We are now on the same mitigation tables as druids. Because Beastlords were so overpowered around the time of POP and GoD, we've been subject to some neglect until recently when we received some major dps upgrades, but sadly our raid utility is lacking. Beastlords are like bards, in that we do several things passably well, but not one thing exceptionally well. I went back to my shaman after playing my Beastlord to 74 and getting his 1.5 and 550 aa's. Not that highend by today's standards, but not too shabby either. It's still a fun class to play, just make sure you don't scream to 75 without getting any aa's. I played a 75 beastlord with 1100 aa's, anguish geared, and 2.5 in beta and I don't want to go back to my gimped beastie *sigh*
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