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#1 Feb 10 2007 at 7:47 AM Rating: Default
Im Glad to see that SOE still has the ideas and abilities to pump out expantion afer mind numbing expantion. Woot to the high end raiders. IMO I think its time SoE looks at their low quality 2 dimention graffix. If you loot at the recent MMORPG's that have come out in the last 3 years, they highly outshine EQ 8 days of the week. In closing I'd like to bring to everyones attention, that this game is over 7years old. When DSL and Cable modems were few and far between. So who all the lag? The gameplay is there, so why not make it visualy apealing?
#2 Feb 10 2007 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Not sure you realize what your asking. Upgrading graphics isn't as simple as just changing a few lines of code. Upgrading the graphics in EQ to be anywhere near on par with todays MMOs would require a complete rewrite of the graphics engine, collision engine and software. Basically they would have to create a whole new game and I highly doubt they are going to put the time and money into recreating a game that already exsists.

Also, as any long time gamer will tell you, graphics are worthless when it comes to the overall play. A good game is about playability, content and storyline/lore.
#3 Feb 10 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
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^^^^^^

What Raolan said.

Graphics mean very little to me, as well. In fact, some graphics and animations are more of a distraction than anything, to me.
#4 Feb 10 2007 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
I'd go stick-man graphics & grey-scale if it would stop dial-up from lagging me to death on average every 3 hours of play.
#5 Feb 10 2007 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
I think the games graphics are quite fine the way they are. The gameplay is what matters, nothing else.
#6 Feb 10 2007 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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frogslobber wrote:
Im Glad to see that SOE still has the ideas and abilities to pump out expantion afer mind numbing expantion. Woot to the high end raiders. IMO I think its time SoE looks at their low quality 2 dimention graffix. If you loot at the recent MMORPG's that have come out in the last 3 years, they highly outshine EQ 8 days of the week. In closing I'd like to bring to everyones attention, that this game is over 7years old. When DSL and Cable modems were few and far between. So who all the lag? The gameplay is there, so why not make it visualy apealing?

You want to replace the background, history and gameplay with flashy graphics?

That's called EQ2.
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#7 Feb 10 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
frogslobber wrote:
Im Glad to see that SOE still has the ideas and abilities to pump out expantion afer mind numbing expantion. Woot to the high end raiders. IMO I think its time SoE looks at their low quality 2 dimention graffix. If you loot at the recent MMORPG's that have come out in the last 3 years, they highly outshine EQ 8 days of the week. In closing I'd like to bring to everyones attention, that this game is over 7years old. When DSL and Cable modems were few and far between. So who all the lag? The gameplay is there, so why not make it visualy apealing?


I think it needs to be said again...There is an overwhelming amount of people who play EQ because thier machines cant handle newer graphics if you changed the entire engine like you said you would be leaving them behind. Last thing this game needs is another reason for people to leave.
#8 Feb 11 2007 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I think it needs to be said again...There is an overwhelming amount of people who play EQ because thier machines cant handle newer graphics if you changed the entire engine like you said you would be leaving them behind. Last thing this game needs is another reason for people to leave.


..... first off the number of people who still play eq can hardly be called "overwhelming" and thats if you count every last person.



As far as the OP is concerned it didnt take a total eq revamp to redo freepot or nektulas or any of the old school zines eq has recently redone so why would it take a whole new engine to bring certain old zones up to date. Places like the greaterr faydark badly neeed something.

Edited, Feb 11th 2007 3:39am by dracoboars
#9 Feb 11 2007 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
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As far as the OP is concerned it didnt take a total eq revamp to redo freepot or nektulas or any of the old school zines eq has recently redone so why would it take a whole new engine to bring certain old zones up to date. Places like the greaterr faydark badly neeed something.


Doing minor graphic revamps like nek, lava, freeport and most of the newer zones would not take a total overhaul. However those updates still aren't anywhere near on par with the more recent games in which the OP made a general comparison.

The old zones that were revamped had a TON of collision problems when they did the revamp because they pushed the graphics on an old engine. Perfect example, TSS. The graphics were decent but they pushed them so far that the majority of people had lag issues because of the graphics. I know several people with fairly up to date machines that couldn't stay in the TSS zones for longer then an hour because their machines would freeze up.

Can they do minor upgrades here and their? Yes.

Can they bring the graphics up to todays standerd? Not without rewriting all the old software.
#10 Feb 11 2007 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
Seriously - graphics are not why I play. If you want pretty graphics there are plenty of other games to make you happy. I'd prefer they left the old zones alone as well. I hate what they've done in Freeport - a graphic update to me doesn't mean redesign the zone and move everything around.

I play EQ because I like the content of the game - it has nothing to do with how it looks.
#11 Feb 11 2007 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
Even with those revamps its still the same player model and mostly the same NPC models.

Did you for get what happened last time they revamped the engine?? It was a complete overhaul and took ages and then the real nightmare began when it went live!
#12 Feb 11 2007 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Graphics are just about the least important thing to me as far as EQ is concerned, as long as they are decent enough to be functional I'm perfectly happy.

If SoE was going to take the time to go back and work on several things in the game from past expansions and the original game itself, I would much rather see them focus on old gameplay issues that still exist and need tweaking/repair.
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