To be honest ...have you ever buy PP for your character ?Follow

To be honest get ready for the flames for breaking EULA blah blah. It is your choice to buy the plat. It is up to you. If you get caught might get your account banned. But it is your choice

Edited, Jan 30th 2007 7:55pm by doorsofpercep

I will sell you plat. Please PM me with your credit card number so we can begin the transaction.

I have been tempted to buy plat, not in the recent years, but back when my paladin was 30 and there was no bazaar, only the ec tunnel or kelethin market. I didnt because I am the type of person who would hate to pay real money for plat, buy an item and then later on see the item I bought much cheaper! I would have been angry! SO no I have never bought plat.
In other ways buying plat cheapens the gaming experience IMHO.

4 yrs ago i hated eq i didn't know how to play and quit 3 times during that yr. then i heard about buying play i bought a ton like 3 million and then another 2 million later just for tradskills and other loosing things like casino horses.

the first 3 million was to equest 16 charcters at lvl 1 on the 2 accounts i had and it helped me lvl so fast to lvl 20 all of them but then i felt i cheated myself out of the gaming exp. so i bought a new account and played without the money till lvl 15 then got pissed off again because of all the questing and hunting my new chatacters never had more then 1000 plat and to but the gear and spells etc. thet you should have at theat lvl i felt i needed 10 k at least.

there were very little groups to get into so soloing with crap gear is very hard and annoying enough to quit the game i quit many times and tried other games but i always came back to eq. but always ended up buying plat. not so i could rush to end game lvls, just to enjoy the game after you work hard on one character you don't want to have to farm plat for weeks again for each character you have. if i only played one then i doubt i would have bought plat, if someone helped me learn the game.

none of my characters are over lvl 51 i now have 8 accounts 4 full of characters and i know i've bought at least 5 million plat. i have farmed only about 50 k plat myself in my life time.

i still enjoy the game and playing with others when i can but i box myself a lot and having the plat has helped me play this game 7 months per yr. other months i play other games always do.

i think everyone should make their first character and play as best they can without the plat buying to get the ture eq exp. but after the first one it's up to you make it easier to lvl up and play with your friends and guildmates.

if you play and find you are getting board or annoyed with out the gear you need then buy it.

FV server i just started 2 character most seem to pimp out their character and powerlvl there, so i did the same at lvl 1 my 2 characters have gear good till lvl 65 most of the gear is better then all the gear from my other characters on my server.

i support the chiose of buying plat for help not to hord the bazzar goods for high profit as some do. but i also don't support buying accounts i did that 2 a few times to help power lvl my characters that made me lvl so fast i didn't learn the class and the class roles in groups . i sold those accounts after 3 months of power lvling 5 characters to lvl 30 . then i rerolled the classses i powerlvled and learned so money cool things about the classes this reroll was just as the new rase came out too the drakks. my lvl 51 cleric never used any pacify spells before from powerlvling i just killed only. but rerolling a new cleric it was amazing the spells i learn.

sorry for repeating myself and blabbering on and on just got home from long day of work it's late.

if you make the choise only buy a little thats all you'd need, i over did it

buying plat is better than begging other players for it, do what you need to do to make the game enjoyable for you without affecting other's enjoyment is what i've always felt is a good guide for these types of questions.

Personally, i'd rather someone buy a bit of plat and get twinked up nicely and learn their class while having an advantage of "self powerleveling" than buy a high end character already leveled and have no clue how to play it.

To be honest I have nothing against people who buy plat. It is the scum sucking pigs that sell plat I dont like. Go ahead and make their day.

I bought 100k plat for a friend for a Birthday once. And I once bought 20k. Thats it

I was really amused at ITcommanders post that I had to write : Boy do you ever need a spell checker laddie !! LOL

besides for making radiant crystals six or seven times as expensive, I don't think instant complete cessation of plat sales would have much effect on eq's economy.

so, in other words, it would be harder for the average nonplatbuying nonraiding player to get gear.

you didn't really think that trader named Lhiohuwong selling 45,000 radiants was doing anything other than 6boxing creators around the clock to sell the plat, did you?

That's an interesting thought.

I suspect that for people who purely play the quest/adventure side of the game it would have virtually no effect either way. I think these players just get on and do their own thing and probably only ever visit the bazaar for the occasional trade skill component, when they find that they "need just one more Tasharin's Grimoire page number xyz" after having camped for a hundred of the rotten things.

But there is a type of player who actually plays the "economy" part of the game. I don't understand these personally, but you can tell from the way they speak about the game, that the "thrill" of buying and selling and "making a profit" is what they play for. For these players the intrusion of real life money has changed the dynamics completley.

I think the players that are most affected by the distorted or perhaps we could call it a "hybrid" economy, are the dedicated trade skillers. They are affected both by distorted prices for certain components at times, as when the "profiteers" identify a high demand or particularly important TS component they do their best to monompolise the market and drive the prices up, this can only be done with relatively unlimited sources of PP.

And they are affected by the resuklting distorted prices of the finished product, so that they become so expensive that after a short period the market dries up and it is no longer worth the trouble making the item. There are actually quite a number of very good TSed pieces of equipment these days, but you almost never seem them for sale. It must be very disheartening for the trade skillers, in fact i know of a couple at least who have just plain given up. As I said I think it is this part of the game most damaged by plat buying and selling.

The problem is that the real world paradigms don't translate accurately into the virtual world.

Having real world buying power hovering outside the virtual world is sort of like having a "magic" supply of money in the real world.

For example, I am not a wealthy person so to speak, but I have a well paying job, no debt and a comfortable lifestyle. If I chose to I could buy millions of plat per month and buy anything and everything that took my fancy in the bazaar. I have no doubt that there are some people that do exactly this, if not in EQ1 so much, certainly in WoW.

This really does distort the in game "economy" and the supposed laws of supply and demand and reward for effort etc. The closest I can think of is something like having slave labour at your beck and call.

Lol, when you think about it actually is slave labour, somewhere at the end of the chain some poor bugger working for peanuts is sitting in WoS cubbies or where ever the new spot is in TSS mindlessly punching buttons on his keyboard so that someone like me with a bit of spare cash to waste can amuse themselves.

In the days when plat buying was a rare thing, the economy was more of a barter based system. Someone who wanted banded armour would hunt for pelts or spider silks and in effect exchange them for banded armour. In this case supply and demand did work because it was tempered by the shared understanding of return for effort. For example, people set a "reasonable" number of spider silks or pelts as the "exchange rate". This is a sort of self regulating in the real "supply and demand" sense, if the exchange rate was set too high the spider hunter would give up or die of exhaustion or something and if the rate was too low the TSer would not bother making any.

Now the distortion comes from the way that the "spider hunter" can press a magic button (or two) and produce plat out of thin air, in the form of plat bought with real world money. This gets us into region of the "rich and poor" argument. Someone with a high disposable income can buy enormous amounts of plat relative to what can be "earned" in the game (its the same as an American or Australian using their purchasing power to buy goods from a "less developed" country).

I wonder if there is not actually two "economies" within EQ now, the bazaar "artificial plat" economy and a "guild" based economy, where something much more like the old barter economy is carried on. I know that I get most of my needs from the guild bank and guild members are constantly swapping TS bits and pieces with one another.


Edited, Feb 1st 2007 6:27am by Iluien

I'm surprised you haven't been IP banned for saying this. For that matter I'm surprised I haven't been IP banned. hehe

I have thought about plat buying even go imaginary shopping in the bazaar and figure how much plat i would need to buy to get what i wanted. But i never do. While i do agree it is a luxury to have extra money all it does it drive prices up of everything. Now an average joe goes to the bazaar and everything is jacked up. Why? Because people will pay. Either farm like crazy or buy the plat. Starting out i killed tons goblins and slowly made my way to frost giants. And then people buy play get the item before me and make the rest of the sellers kick up the price. So to counter that. EQ nerfs the goblin heads and bloods, and the frosties are greatly reduced. So i either A find some other gem mine or go buy plat. When you are a casual player like i was it was near impossible to upgrade your gear and everyone wanted an uber tank or i had to be lucky to get in as a sixth.

I am not pro farming and am anti- plat buying. But with the way EQ keeps kicking out expansions, its either play non-stop, be in a raiding guild, or save up and buy the stuff. If you cannot do one of the three. You fall behind, get frustrated and start down the dark path, and it will forever dominate your gaming experiances. As it almost comsumed me.

Instead of buying plat, i had a friend that quit EQ and had a pretty nice SK for the time. So i was able to sell off alot of those items and trade up for the rest of my equipment. But i really tghinking about buying plat or quitting were my two options until i got all those items.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 5:53am by Toxetz